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Windows 2000 users to miss out on IE 7
Cnet ^ | June 2, 2005 | Ingrid Marson

Posted on 06/02/2005 7:09:51 PM PDT by Panerai

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To: softwarecreator
I've seen message boards/blogs where "inside sources" announced something Apple was doing -- stirred up a lot of anger and it turned out it was a complete lie.

I would rather trust an official announcement from the source than an blogster. But that's me.

61 posted on 06/03/2005 7:28:36 AM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel
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To: softwarecreator

From what I've been told, the latest version of Gentoo installs much more easily than when I did it. I updated mine, so I don't know the specifics in a fresh install. Either way, it's fun to tinker with....or at least I think so. I also like the commnets I get from people who see and use it at my house. The general consensus among Windows users is that a working, configured Gentoo box is pretty cool, and quite different than anything they're used to seeing.


62 posted on 06/03/2005 7:33:27 AM PDT by Space Wrangler
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To: MrsEmmaPeel
'an official announcement'

Of course, an official announcement I would trust more from the source.  I thought you were referring to issues with the software itself.

63 posted on 06/03/2005 7:52:12 AM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
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To: Space Wrangler
Either way, it's fun to tinker with....or at least I think so

Tinker with what.  What types of 'configurations' are you changing?

64 posted on 06/03/2005 7:53:29 AM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
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To: StoneGiant
Can you say "Firefox", little boys and girls?

Not really. I run Maxthon 1.3.1 and get actually more functionality than Firefox, especially the powerful AD Hunter feature that blocks a lot of online ads (and all the spyware/adware that goes along with them).

65 posted on 06/03/2005 8:02:20 AM PDT by RayChuang88
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To: softwarecreator

I'm talking more about loading the apps that you need and making them work with all of the hardware in the box. The biggest challenge to laoding this build was making all my hardware work, but once I got everything working, I can literally do everything I need to do on it, and I now use it for almost everything except digital photography. Getting a particular piece of hardware to work within Linix can sometimes be a challenge. I had a very difficult time getting my wireless NIC to work, and ended up plugging directly into a hub untl I could figure it out. That endeavor forced me into the forums, and opened my eyes to all sorts of little 'tweaks' that can be done.


66 posted on 06/03/2005 8:30:55 AM PDT by Space Wrangler
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To: Woodman

Thanks for the info- I appreciate it.


67 posted on 06/03/2005 8:42:27 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: backhoe
This is going to force my employer into a decision. We have upwards of 3200 desk/laptops deployed at our site and they all churn W2k except for the number crunchers (which either are, or going to, Linux.) We take new systems fresh from Dell (with the "XP Inside" holograms on them) and retro-ghost them to W2k. The only browser "allowed" on them is IE. Something is going to have to give.

I honestly believe the only reason we haven't long-since made the switch to Linux company wide was that the beancounters outsourced our IT support to an MS-only shop as a "cost savings". This was done by the same group that mandated secretaries and engineers got identical systems and couldn't understand why anyone would ever need anything more than the MS Office suite.

The stories I could tell...

68 posted on 06/03/2005 9:57:27 AM PDT by LTCJ
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To: Born Conservative

"I could care less"

So you do care a little then? ;)


69 posted on 06/03/2005 10:00:09 AM PDT by melbell (A Freudian slip is when you mean one thing, and say your mother)
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To: melbell
So you do care a little then? ;)

Not at all.

70 posted on 06/03/2005 10:23:08 AM PDT by Born Conservative ("If not us, who? And if not now, when? - Ronald Reagan)
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To: softwarecreator

Interesting, in my experience 2K will give you really good uptime, not quite as good as a linux box. If you patch all the time it helps because thats usually a reboot..


71 posted on 06/03/2005 10:46:23 AM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: softwarecreator

the dep issue is fixed from teh linux side, modern installers will grabwhatever deps you need and install them to with onlt a warning to the user. The problem will be getting 3rd party software to include all deps with their releases..


72 posted on 06/03/2005 10:47:56 AM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: N3WBI3
Yeah, plus I'm beginning to find sources that have all the dependencies I need.

Problem is, the average user cannot track them down, become frustrated and go back to MS.

73 posted on 06/03/2005 11:18:58 AM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
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To: N3WBI3

Interesting, microsoft.com has longer uptime than redhat.com, as of today.

33 days:

http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http://www.redhat.com

56 days:

http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http://www.microsoft.com

Gee, that's almost twice as long, isn't it?


74 posted on 06/03/2005 1:59:46 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: LTCJ

You have 3200 seats at one site!!?? Where the heck do you work? I know what you mean about pointy haired execs making tech decisions.

"I put together a timeline for your project. I started by reasoning that anything I don't understand is easy to do. Phase One: Design a client-server architecture for our worldwide operations. Time: six minutes." -- PHB to Dilbert.


75 posted on 06/03/2005 2:06:02 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Disregard the law of unintended consequences at your own risk.)
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To: Woodman

You use to get up to 7 reinstalls before having to call MS. But with the latest copies of XP non-OEMs you have to call MS everytime you reinstall.


76 posted on 06/03/2005 2:13:26 PM PDT by neb52
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To: Panerai

When IE 6 no longer gets the job done, remove it and go to a different browser.

This is great news for browsers like Firefox.


77 posted on 06/03/2005 2:16:31 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: softwarecreator

You may want to look at Fedora Corer 3 or Ubuntu/Kubuntu. Both are slick and easy to install.


78 posted on 06/03/2005 2:19:52 PM PDT by neb52
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To: Golden Eagle

thats not an os to os comparison, who do you think is running a bigger cluster for their site??


79 posted on 06/03/2005 3:55:16 PM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: N3WBI3

I'm just pointing out facts, like usual. Funny how they always seem to contradict your claims.


80 posted on 06/03/2005 4:16:02 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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