Star Wars Episode 3 1/2? Inconsistencies? Anakin ain't Mannikin anymore! (SPOLIER)

5/22/05 | Conservatrix

[Conservatrix]

For those who have seen Epsiode 3, will there be a 3 1/2? Click though to comments... I don't want to post my spoilers where those who have not seen it will see....

[Conservatrix]

OKAY. 1. First of all, do you remember in the old Star Wars where Leah says "I remember my mother. She was sad and beautiful" or something like that? Then how can she say that if Padme dies in childbirth, UNLESS.... 2. Yoda says something about QuaiGon Jin to Obi Wan, like he will see him again (at end of Episode). How is that possible, UNLESS....

My kids and I were theorizing that Lucas could make a sort of inter-testamental "Episode 3 1/2" where some kind of out-of-body experience happens so Leah can see her mother when she is a child and Obi Wan can communicate with QuaiGon Jin...

Any other ideas or theories?

ALSO: I really thought Haydn Christiansen was fabulous last night. I could hardly believe it was the same actor from Episode 2. He was credible and passionate and gut-wrenching. Either he got some really good acting lessons or he just grew into the role BUT I think he was Oscar-worthy in this performance.

ALSO: I was dissapointed in Natalie Portman (or her direction). As a woman who has given birth six times I can tell you birth ain't that pretty, or sweat-free. And she doesn't die well.... the whole thing was too antiseptic...

AND if Darth Sidious had just told me I had caused the death of my love one, I would have KILLED HIM. That was the one clink in the plot that did not follow through. I think the new Darth Vader would have killed everything in sight, Sidious included.... of course there would be no Episodes 4-6 with Sidious in it... someone else should have told Vader.... and why doesn't he ask about "the baby"? UNLESSS... there is an Episode 3 1/2???

What do you all think?

[MikefromOhio]

I think I want to see the movie....

[Jeff Head]

We the part in Episode six with Leah. On the way home from the mopvie we had theorized that perhaps Leah, in remembering her mother, was talking about the Snbator's wife and that maybe he she had died when Leah was young.

But Luke specifically asks about Leah's "real" mother. He makes that very clear and she indicates that she does remember her, but only briefly, that she was very beautiful and sad. I said..."no way", not as a two minute old baby. My wife said that maybe since Leah was so strong in the force (latently) then maybe she would remember in the story.

Interesting food for thought.

As to them not asking about the baby...if you noticed, when she was buried, they made her still look pregnant.

As to Vader's reaction...notice how the Sith Lord smiled as Vader's rage took hold. I believe that he was reveling in it and knew Vader would not take it out on him, but that he, Sidious would later use it.

One of the things I reallly enjoyed about the movie was that Master Windu actually defeated Sidious before Anakin intervened.

[Jeff Head]

Sorry fo all the typos. Here's the response without the errors...

We watched the part in Episode six with Leah after seeing Episode III. On the way home from the movie we had theorized that perhaps Leah, in remembering her mother, was talking about the Sebator's wife and that maybe he she had died when Leah was young.

But Luke specifically asks about Leah's "real" mother. He makes that very clear and she indicates that she does remember her, but only briefly, that she was very beautiful and sad. I said..."no way", not as a two minute old baby. My wife then said that maybe since Leah was so strong in the force (latently) then maybe she would remember in the story.

Interesting food for thought.

As to them not asking about the baby...if you noticed, when she was buried, they made her still look pregnant.

As to Vader's reaction...notice how the Sith Lord smiled as Vader's rage took hold. I believe that he was reveling in it and knew Vader would not take it out on him, but that he, Sidious would later use it.

One of the things I reallly enjoyed about the movie was that Master Windu actually defeated Sidious before Anakin intervened.

[PzLdr]

Inconsistencies?Aside from the "real" Mom flub (and how did Luke know,since he might have assumed Leia's adoptive Mom was both their Mom), how come Vader never sensed the Force in Leia when he was torturing her, didn't sense it in Luke on the Death Star, but did above it. How come they didn't change Luke's last name-the family he was living with was named Owen, and Skywalker was a pretty famous name on Tattoine (and why hide him there-if they wanted him to be a Jedi-Yodas should have raised him-no childhood-and you know the trouble that causes.

I agree that Christianizing did a great job. I thought Portman did too. Remember, these kids are working with a George Lucas script.

As for your last point, two things. Vader didn't lose his memory. So at some level he knew he killed the woman he sold his soul for. Two, he came out of Mustafar as a quadriplegic, with severe burns over the remainder of his body. Plus, he winds up dependent on a life support system. While he may have the force, he may not have the strength (certainly not the mobility he had) before the duel with Kenobi-and Palpatine is probably a greast deal more powerful than we give him credit for. He killed three Jedi in 10 seconds, and the deal with Windu may have been a trap to sucker Anakin along. He also kicked Yoda's butt.

[JennysCool]

If it ain't got Han Solo, it ain't Star Wars.

[rockrr]

If it ain't got Han Solo, it ain't Star Wars.

That's funny!

(But at this point, dragging out an aging Han would be almost like dragging out an aging Capn Kirk ;'}

[Conservatrix]

Good point about him (Vader) being weaker after the lava burns. Still he was not angry at Sidious at all, just angry. I would have expect him to at least fight with Sidious over Padme's death. I wondered why she looked pregnant at her funeral, that seems plausible, to make it looked like the baby (ies) died with her. Still, Vader not asking seemed weak in the story to me.

[Conservatrix]

Definitely worth it. I think it exceeds the previous 5 put together. Really a masterpiece.

[MikefromOhio]

wow. You really think it beats Empire Strikes Back?


that would be something right there...

[Conservative Texan Mom]

When I was pregnant I was laid up on bed rest for about 7 weeks. My sweet husband went to go get me something to read, and not knowing what I would like, picked out some Star Wars novels. I thought it was a strange choice at the time, but went ahead and read them. To my surprise, and delight, they were very enjoyable. One of the aspects about the force the book highlighted was that each person had an unique strength with it. One might be wisdom, healing, so forth. Perhaps Leah, as an infant in the womb, was able to sense her mother's presense and feelings, if that sort of thing were her strength. Just a thought.

[Conservatrix]

We watched the part in Episode six with Leah after seeing Episode III. On the way home from the movie we had theorized that perhaps Leah, in remembering her mother, was talking about the Sebator's wife and that maybe he she had died when Leah was young. I was thinking about that, too. But why does Luke then say "I have no memory of my mother" when Anakin's step sister-in-law on Tatooine is his adoptive mother? Did she die young too?

But Luke specifically asks about Leah's "real" mother. He makes that very clear and she indicates that she does remember her, but only briefly, that she was very beautiful and sad. I said..."no way", not as a two minute old baby. My wife then said that maybe since Leah was so strong in the force (latently) then maybe she would remember in the story. Well, like I said, I think the plot is erronous here. UNLESS there is an Episode 3 1/2 to correct or supplement this seeming error.... As to them not asking about the baby...if you noticed, when she was buried, they made her still look pregnant. I wondered about that, now it makes sense. Still, if it wewre my wife and I was in love with her, I would have said, "And the baby?" At the very least.... As to Vader's reaction...notice how the Sith Lord smiled as Vader's rage took hold. I believe that he was reveling in it and knew Vader would not take it out on him, but that he, Sidious would later use it. Yes but I still would have expected Vader to at least attack Sidiou of not kill him, disabled or not! One of the things I reallly enjoyed about the movie was that Master Windu actually defeated Sidious before Anakin intervened. INDEED. I felt so bad when he died, he was a very cool character!

[Conservatrix]

Yes, I think it beats Empire. There is so much in Sith. Visuals, music, action, sadness, it is just one wonderful assault on the senses. The archetypical nature of the characters-- for instance, in Junigan psychology, the colors of red and black sympolize evil and blue and white, good. It was so powerful when the new Vader is in the lava planet surrounded by.... black and red lava. Anyway SEE IT.

[Conservatrix]

Sorry, my HTML got messed up, can you discern your comments and my answers?

[MikefromOhio]

ok...I will have too then...

[Conservatrix]

Sorry, I messed up the HTML, can you read your comments and my answers?

[Lunatic Fringe]

I was kind of diappointed that Yoda retreated so quickly. If he wasnt injured, you would think he would have battled the Sith Lord to the death.

[Conservatrix]

This may be true, but Lucas does not bring that out in the later epsisode... lots of unanswered questions calling for an Episode 3 1/2!

[Cowboy Bob]

I read the other day that Darth Vader was 6'7" in the original Star Wars. How tall is the actor who plays Anakin (since he ends up being Darth)?

[Conservatrix]

Here, I fixed it, I hope. i am having errors, too! We watched the part in Episode six with Leah after seeing Episode III. On the way home from the movie we had theorized that perhaps Leah, in remembering her mother, was talking about the Sebator's wife and that maybe he she had died when Leah was young.

I was thinking about that, too. But why does Luke then say "I have no memory of my mother" when Anakin's step sister-in-law on Tatooine is his adoptive mother? Did she die young too?

But Luke specifically asks about Leah's "real" mother. He makes that very clear and she indicates that she does remember her, but only briefly, that she was very beautiful and sad. I said..."no way", not as a two minute old baby. My wife then said that maybe since Leah was so strong in the force (latently) then maybe she would remember in the story.

Well, like I said, I think the plot is erronous here. UNLESS there is an Episode 3 1/2 to correct or supplement this seeming error.... As to them not asking about the baby...if you noticed, when she was buried, they made her still look pregnant..

I wondered about that, now it makes sense. Still, if it were my wife and I was in love with her, I would have said, "And the baby?" At the very least.... As to Vader's reaction...notice how the Sith Lord smiled as Vader's rage took hold. I believe that he was reveling in it and knew Vader would not take it out on him, but that he, Sidious would later use it. Yes but I still would have expected Vader to at least attack Sidiou of not kill him, disabled or not!

One of the things I reallly enjoyed about the movie was that Master Windu actually defeated Sidious before Anakin intervened.

INDEED. I felt so bad when he died, he was a very cool character!