MadIvan is leaving Free Republic

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1397821/posts#comment?q=1 ^

[Duff]

Perhaps some of you would like to wish him well.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1397821/posts#comment?q=1

[rdb3]

I think Ivan is reacting to a small group of bigots.

I don't know how small they are, but on this and many contentious subjects, they sure are loud.

[Raycpa]

they sure are loud.

They always are.

[Lando Lincoln]

Duff, I think it is entirely appropriate that you posted this. MadIvan has been a favorite of many FReepers. His expression was worthy of it's own thread because.....many of us care.

Lando

[TXnMA]

... Personal note to MadIvan posted on original thread...

[Lancey Howard]

Now if you put up a NASA thread about the moon, somebody immediately posts that it's too bad that Terri can't see the moon but she was murdered.

Thread cross-referencing like that shows an inability to let something go. Sure, we were all disgusted by Terri Schiavo's excruciating two-week murder, but discussion about her murder should be left for those threads which deal with her murder and those who abetted it.

Regards,
LH

[joesbucks]

I'd like to know what was said that so upset him? Secondly, FR really has never changed. What's happened is that some folks have never been challenged and when they are, then the forum has changed. I can be on your side on one controversy and be opposite you the next day.

I've read some of Ivan's work and it's neither inspired or incited me.

I'm wondering if this has anything to do with the fact that in the UK, the conservatives have been nipping at liberal/labour Blair's heels over Iraq, where in the US it's just the opposite, the liberals snipping at the conservatives in this country.

But this forum is no better nor no worse than it was in at its inception.

[Vic3O3]

Ping!

[Lancey Howard]

lol

[Howlin]

Bumparooski.

[76834]

When Sean Hannity made the statement that it seemed to him that FReepers were eating each other alive IMO he was correct.

I used to really enjoy the friendly debate here, sometimes very spirited but always friendly.

Now it seems that any opinion other than the exact "party line" opens one up to all sorts of name calling and insults.

I certainly understand Mad Ivan's motivation.

[Lancey Howard]

But this forum is no better nor no worse than it was in at its inception.

I don't go back (Jan 98) as far as you do, but I agree with your post 100%. The forum is just BIGGER - - more voices.

[Diva Betsy Ross]

But wait a minute.. who is bringing it up here? I wish you would let it go as well.

[Tugo]

That's very true. Much more hostile environment. I a newb but really a long-time lurker with simply a new name. Seems like some folks want to work the messenger, not the message. PS Ivan: You are a true patriot.

[PGalt]

Get back to where you once belonged. Get back here MadIvan.

[Pippin]

two words, Ivan,

DONT GO!

[joesbucks]

First of all, FR is probably the most tolerant of the conservative web sites with regard to discussions taking place. You would hear fewer voices and position on Lucianne.com for example. If you want an amen forum, head there or one like it.

Unfortunately, too many conservatives are thin skinned and when they can't defend a position or are challenged, then suddenly everyone is eating their own.

In general, conservatives have high standards and when those standards are encroached on, they get testy. Sometimes Sean crosses that line and when he does, he wants to do it with impunity. Let's face it, it's a fact Sean doesn't have the ability or at least hasn't displayed the ability to disect an issue like Rush. On the other hand, it does appear that Sean lives closer to the walk a conservative has to walk than Rush. Rush has the ability to self promote an brag and get away with it. With Sean, it's generally irritating. But clearly he's upset that anyone calls out those "weaknesses" as eating one's own.

It's not just Freepers, it's conservative in general. Look at the number of JR insiders of the past who have left in one snit or the other over time. Two that come to mind quickly are CAL and Don Morgan. There have been several others. Yet these too are some of the first people who claim FR eats their own. Well, folks, it takes two to tango and the people cited and many more have spent time feasting at the conservative cannibilism trough, and then cry fowl when it's aimed at them or someone close to them.

[gidget7]

Since when do we pay attention to polls? Britain has it's share of libs too.

I just do not generally acknowledge responses that are antagonistic. It is in most cases, someone who gives no forethought to what they type, or someone there just to be disagreeable. Best to just ignore, and they usually go away.

[Howlin]

Now I know you're not that obtuse.

[KC_Conspirator]

Now if you put up a NASA thread about the moon, somebody immediately posts that it's too bad that Terri can't see the moon but she was murdered.

I have recieved a couple of messages like that as well. Terribly myopic and one-issue oriented.

[NaughtiusMaximus]

Please don't leave friend, we'll miss you. (PS. We'll single out the a$$holes and flame back at them.)