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Environmental group shoots back at Apple
Yahoo! News ^ | 4/22/2005 | Jim Dalrymple MacCentral

Posted on 04/23/2005 12:45:18 AM PDT by Swordmaker

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Jobs countered claims that Apple did not have an effective computer takeback program by pointing out that Apple has had such a program for four years, recycling over 1,500 tons in the last year. The SVTC said in response that while that may sound like a lot, it doesn't compare to the 5,000 tons that HP collected in a six-week program.

Gee, it's too bad that HP PCs fail so rapidly and have to be recycled... more proof that Apple makes superior computers... ;^)

1 posted on 04/23/2005 12:45:19 AM PDT by Swordmaker
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To: Bush2000; antiRepublicrat; Action-America; eno_; N3WBI3; zeugma; TechJunkYard; ShorelineMike; ...
This is a "What a bunch of Idiots!" PING!

Eco-freaks attack Apple for allowing third parties not under their control to recycle Apple computer using prison industries...

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

2 posted on 04/23/2005 12:48:22 AM PDT by Swordmaker (tagline now open, please ring bell.)
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To: Swordmaker
Old Apples rarely die...they simply get used by HS physics teachers, like my husband, who have found Bankstreet's "Voyage of the Mimi" and Vernier's AppleII software to be very useful
What Can I Do with My Old Apple II?

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Your physics teacher might like a photogate timer. Your biology department might benefit from a system to monitor aquarium or greenhouse temperatures. If you want more Apple II computers, you can probably get them from other departments in your school, or by asking parents for donations. Think of it as computer recycling!


3 posted on 04/23/2005 4:54:30 AM PDT by syriacus (Weird George Felos repeatedly flicked his tongue out his gaping mouth when lying to the press 3/31)
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  Graphical Analysis for Apple II Computers
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4 posted on 04/23/2005 4:56:57 AM PDT by syriacus (Weird George Felos repeatedly flicked his tongue out his gaping mouth when lying to the press 3/31)
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To: Swordmaker

I wonder sometimes whether there's any kind of statistically significant linkage between envirowhackism and suicidal tendencies. You'd think that, with all of the "sky is falling" and "we're all going to die horrible deaths" rhetoric that these people spew out, they must be really, really depressed alot of the time. I mean -- let's face facts, here -- they spend their waking hours lamenting their conviction that the planet on which we live is doomed and will, all too soon, shrivvel up like a prune and die, and they blame the human race for this.

That's just got to bring you down, after awhile.


5 posted on 04/23/2005 4:59:34 AM PDT by HKMk23 (Rex regum et Dominus dominantium)
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I wonder sometimes whether there's any kind of statistically significant linkage between envirowhackism and suicidal tendencies.

Keen insight.

6 posted on 04/23/2005 5:13:42 AM PDT by syriacus (Weird George Felos repeatedly flicked his tongue out his gaping mouth when lying to the press 3/31)
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the iPod "a time-bomb for our health

Claims that Apple uses prison or forced labor

Well, at least the claims aren't over the top. Next, they'll probably claim that Apple is making computers out of homeless people or spotted owls. :-)

7 posted on 04/23/2005 5:59:07 AM PDT by SIDENET (Yankee Air Pirate)
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I wonder sometimes whether there's any kind of statistically significant linkage between envirowhackism and suicidal tendencies.

Or maybe they were neglected as small children and just crave attention...

"the leader of the environmental group said they "picked the iPod to go after because it’s the hippest thing around."

8 posted on 04/23/2005 7:12:33 AM PDT by CheneyChick
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" Next, they'll probably claim that Apple is making computers out of homeless people or spotted owls."

Sssshhhhh!!!! What are you doing? Haven't you heard that the spotted owls are reducing in number despite protected forests, etc. What do you think is happening to them? ;-)

I love my Mac! Oh, and my iPod, too!


9 posted on 04/23/2005 7:26:38 AM PDT by samiam1972 (Live simply so that others may simply live!)
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Well, at least the claims aren't over the top. Next, they'll probably claim that Apple is making computers out of homeless people

Soylent Mac's?

10 posted on 04/23/2005 8:13:58 AM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: syriacus

The TRS-80 model 100 is still used a lot today in rugged applications. The little suckers just work and don't die. I used to have basically the same thing in a different package, an Olivetti M-10:

Having used Apple until then, it was the first Microsoft software on Intel I ever used.

11 posted on 04/23/2005 8:16:26 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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Interesting info.


12 posted on 04/23/2005 8:38:14 AM PDT by syriacus (Weird George Felos repeatedly flicked his tongue out his gaping mouth when lying to the press 3/31)
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The group also said that even though Apple has set up an iPod battery replacement program that consumers would not take advantage of it, instead choosing to "toss it in the trash."

I realize that there are a lot of variables to take into account, but, off-hand, it seems that iPod-listeners would be using and discarding fewer batteries than Walkman/CD-listeners did.

13 posted on 04/23/2005 8:45:24 AM PDT by syriacus (Weird George Felos repeatedly flicked his tongue out his gaping mouth when lying to the press 3/31)
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The group also said that even though Apple has set up an iPod battery replacement program that consumers would not take advantage of it, instead choosing to "toss it in the trash."

These people are such idiots. I paid 300 bucks for my iPod and have spent many hours ripping CDs to copy onto it. I also purshased a service plan when I bought it - if it breaks, Apple will either fix it or replace it. Last I heard the battery replacement costs $35 if I do it myself. And they say I'm just going to throw it in the trash?

When are people like Steve Jobs going to wake up to the fact that pandering to these envirowhack and other loony left groups is useless, because at some point they'll turn on them? Any of these guys ever study Churchill (Winston, not the cigar store Indian) and what he had to say about hoping the alligator eats you last?

14 posted on 04/23/2005 8:56:16 AM PDT by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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We have contacts inside the prison system

I bet they do.

15 posted on 04/23/2005 8:57:25 AM PDT by anonymous_user (Not everything's a conspiracy.)
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"the leader of the environmental group said they "picked the iPod to go after because it’s the hippest thing around."

These people just crack me up. Obviously haven't gotten the memo about this thing Algore invented called the internet, and they still think these are the days when they can drop their little turds of "wisdom" in rags like the KC Red Star and not have to worry about them coming back to stink up their nests.

16 posted on 04/23/2005 9:03:10 AM PDT by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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I realize that there are a lot of variables to take into account, but, off-hand, it seems that iPod-listeners would be using and discarding fewer batteries than Walkman/CD-listeners did.

I think the lead in iPods is primarily in the solder on the circuit board... probably about 5% of the amount of solder in your average Sony Walkman... if that.

17 posted on 04/23/2005 9:29:55 AM PDT by Swordmaker (tagline now open, please ring bell.)
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From the article: We have contacts inside the prison system

anonymous_user: I bet they do.

LOL.

18 posted on 04/23/2005 10:22:37 AM PDT by syriacus (Weird George Felos repeatedly flicked his tongue out his gaping mouth when lying to the press 3/31)
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To: Swordmaker
probably about 5% of the amount of solder in your average Sony Walkman... if that.

I'd guess that many of those Walkmen will be tossed into the trash soon.

My husband and son have been buying them at yard sales for 50 cents or a dollar these past few years.

19 posted on 04/23/2005 10:28:38 AM PDT by syriacus (Weird George Felos repeatedly flicked his tongue out his gaping mouth when lying to the press 3/31)
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I know how Apple can increase the trade-ins on iPods. Send your old when you order a new one and they transfer all the music over, kind of like they do now when you send it in for warranty. I think many upgraders would take advantage of that.


20 posted on 04/23/2005 10:32:08 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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