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The Hobbit Hole XXI - ...Towards the Moon or to the Sun.
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Posted on 04/21/2005 6:44:57 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

...Towards the Moon or to the Sun.

New verse:

Upon the hearth the fire is red,
Beneath the roof there is a bed;
But not yet weary are our feet,
Still round the corner we may meet
A sudden tree or standing stone
That none have seen but we alone.
Tree and flower and leaf and grass,
Let them pass! Let them pass!
Hill and water under sky,
Pass them by! Pass them by!

Still round the corner there may wait
A new road or a secret gate,
And though we pass them by today,
Tomorrow we may come this way
And take the hidden paths that run
Towards the Moon or to the Sun.
Apple, thorn, and nut and sloe,
Let them go! Let them go!
Sand and stone and pool and dell,
Fare you well! Fare you well!

Home is behind, the world ahead,
And there are many paths to tread
Through shadows to the edge of night,
Until the stars are all alight.
Then world behind and home ahead,
We’ll wander back to home and bed.
Mist and twilight, cloud and shade,
Away shall fade! Away shall fade!
Fire and lamp, and meat and bread,
And then to bed! And then to bed!

See also: http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net

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To: 2Jedismom

Check back in later, 2J.

Please don't hesitate to call the doc if it gets worse.

(Although you should prolly call now anyway).


5,221 posted on 05/24/2005 7:29:25 AM PDT by RMDupree (HHD:)
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To: Corin Stormhands; HairOfTheDog; SuziQ

Sorry about that, Corin.

I keep forgetting that you haven't seen it yet!

I agree with Hair's review though. They had too many storylines this season to ~effectively~ wrap up in a 2 hour finale.

It was still fun TV though!


5,222 posted on 05/24/2005 7:31:05 AM PDT by RMDupree (HHD:)
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To: JenB
one online comic I really like, because it uses the Japanese style in an American way, is MegaTokyo.

That is one of Clare's favorites!! Several of her friends are into illustration, and at least two plan to attend art schools. One of her best friends, Emilee, wants to attend Savannah College of Art and Design because is it the only college that teaches Sequential Art, which is what she'd need for Graphic novels and 3D animation of an Anime. Emilee is an outstanding artist!

5,223 posted on 05/24/2005 7:32:13 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: RMDupree

Yep! Very fun TV.... but a lot that will have to be continued next season.... if that's what they do.

In prior seasons... do they start of exactly where this one left off, or is there a time lapse before the next 24 hours?


5,224 posted on 05/24/2005 7:32:49 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

hehehe...I dunno!

It's my first season too, remember? :-D


5,225 posted on 05/24/2005 7:33:40 AM PDT by RMDupree (HHD:)
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To: HairOfTheDog; RMDupree; Bear_in_RoseBear
In prior seasons... do they start of exactly where this one left off, or is there a time lapse before the next 24 hours?

IIRC they've done both.

5,226 posted on 05/24/2005 7:34:55 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://www.cafepress.com/wardsmythe)
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To: SuziQ

Yeah, I seem to remember her having some MT gear, which is all supercool. I hooked my coworker last week. He sent me an email at about three in the morning saying he'd finished it and now he was sad because he had to wait til Monday for more.

Good for Clare's friends! Maybe they can do something about the dreadful state of cartoons these days. Nothing is both well-drawn and well-written.


5,227 posted on 05/24/2005 7:35:26 AM PDT by JenB (I'm about to get killed a million miles from nowhere with a gung-ho iguana who tells me to relax)
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To: HairOfTheDog; RMDupree; Bear_in_RoseBear

No, I was wrong. Reading the summaries (Amazon), there is time lapsed between each of the seasons.


5,228 posted on 05/24/2005 7:39:41 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://www.cafepress.com/wardsmythe)
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To: no one in particular
~sigh~


5,229 posted on 05/24/2005 8:11:50 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://www.cafepress.com/wardsmythe / FREE Mudboy Slim!)
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To: RMDupree

I'm ok. Vision is still a little blurry, but I can see everything. I'm nauseated, have a headache and feel disconnected from the world...typical migraine symptoms.

Frightened me pretty badly at first, though...but when my vision started flashing, I knew what it was. I remembered it from 1997.

The rippling light flashes were a relief to me...that's when I figured out what was happening and quit panicking!


5,230 posted on 05/24/2005 8:14:56 AM PDT by 2Jedismom (The light at the end of the tunnel is most certainly not a train.)
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To: RosieCotton

Sigh.

Not only is the a/c here not working, but it's now blowing really warm air into the room. I'm gonna die. Hope I don't have to spend time in the server room today...


5,231 posted on 05/24/2005 8:20:34 AM PDT by JenB (I'm about to get killed a million miles from nowhere with a gung-ho iguana who tells me to relax)
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To: JenB

Sounds miserable!

It's very overcast here...I'm hoping for some rain...it just makes everything so fresh.


5,232 posted on 05/24/2005 8:24:20 AM PDT by 2Jedismom (The light at the end of the tunnel is most certainly not a train.)
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To: 2Jedismom

~fret~


5,233 posted on 05/24/2005 8:25:02 AM PDT by RMDupree (HHD:)
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To: Corin Stormhands

And Keith Richards hasn't aged a day. *grin*


5,234 posted on 05/24/2005 8:26:25 AM PDT by RMDupree (HHD:)
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To: JenB
I can draw, a bit, but not speedily or well enough to merit the kind of artwork I want for this story idea I am working on. I WISH so very much that I could! I agree about the artwork and I am not looking to have art like Gaimon's but I think his story and layout is wonderful and I wish there were more stories in graphic novel form. I think he has a good thing going there. I used to have this daydream of writing a novel and having lots of illustrations in it, but nowadays its not done for a lot of books because it is not cost productive for the publisher. Which is a shame because some of the best pieces of art came from artists who illustrated for books (Frederick Barnard did WONDERFUL artwork for Charles Dickens, and one of THE best character drawings I have seen is that of Sydney Carton. I have one of the lithographs framed and hanging by the door to my bedroom). Seems to me that the graphic novel would allow artists and writers to work together once again.

I used to have some Dark Horse issues of the SW extended universe that came out in the early 90s. I have since sold them to a friend, and the artist who did the work for the SW favored a lot of blues, and bubbles, and really weird 'camera' angles, and his depictions of the characters weren't always flattering to the eye. However, in the other part of the issues they had the continuing adventures of Indiana Jones and if I remember correctly, the artwork was much different and nicer.

I think I would like to find a happy medium. I want the protagonists to look good, and the villain to look bad and the others to look like they belong in their place, and something simple but not cartoonish or amateur. I would need to have a collaboration with an artist, and thats been the real bugaboo for me right now. I have some friends working to find someone for me, and another who is doing their own doodles for me, which is extremely nice and appreciated, but ultimately, I am looking for an artist partner who can work with me. A friend suggested I go to some of the science fiction cons, but my worry there is that the only way I will get any artists' attention is if I can pay them some money, and I really can't. My goal is to work with them so that we can both get published and recieve experience and credits for a resume, and then (ideally, but not necessarily the most realistic part) that the publisher will pay each of us to do what we need to do if it is a success.

Or, what I am finding out is, I should write the script in screenplay format, and submit that with the idea that the publisher will be willing to supply an artist. What that will entail I have no idea, and I will probably lose control over the artistic quality if that happens. We'll see.

right now though, I am going through a bit of a learning curve, not only in writing a screenplay, but tightening up the story itself into something that that readers will like. I havent done this kind of writing in a while (too much blogging and politics for the last seven to eight years!!!).

5,235 posted on 05/24/2005 8:35:41 AM PDT by Alkhin ("Oh! Oh!" cried my idiot crew. "It's a ghoul - we are lost!" ~ Jack Aubrey)
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To: JenB
Would be nice to have more graphic novels that aren't about superheroes - that's something that attracts me to manga, no spandex.

That's EXACTLY what I am aiming for...EXACTLY what I have been thinking!!!! that was evident to me the other night when I was in B&N, and was trying to tell a fellow writer about it, but got swarmed by a bunch of the Japanime/manga fans, who didnt want to hear me say "gee I wish there were more AMERICAN stories!"

Im getting an itch in my palm that maybe thats a field that needs some exploring...hmmm??

5,236 posted on 05/24/2005 8:38:12 AM PDT by Alkhin ("Oh! Oh!" cried my idiot crew. "It's a ghoul - we are lost!" ~ Jack Aubrey)
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To: RMDupree; Corin Stormhands; SuziQ; JenB; RosieCotton

Don't fret! I'm fine! Once I saw the rippling, I knew what was happening.

It was the vision on the left side of my vision field that I lost...as you can see by what I could see and what I couldn't in my typing. I also lost control of my tongue and could hardly speak and my left hand went numb. As these things went away, I felt like I was enclosed in a tunnel, which went away while I was lying down. I am left now with only nausea and headache, the headache being on the right side of my head, which stands to reason since neurological symptoms "cross over"...in other words, the migraine is on the right, the symptoms on the left.

Now this all sounds awful, but it reversed itself and are actually typical symptoms of migraine aura. I'm pretty fortunate that this has only happened to me one other time in nearly the past 10 years. I get migraines occasionally but only one other time like this.

The thing is, I haven't even had a mild migraine in many months! Wonder what's up?

~shrug~

I'm real sorry I scared anyone...but I was pretty scared at first! I actually thought I had inadvertently gotten pool chlorine powder in my eye...but when I figured out it was in both eyes I got real freaked until it started the rippling flashing business. Again, I'm real sorry!


5,237 posted on 05/24/2005 8:50:26 AM PDT by 2Jedismom (The light at the end of the tunnel is most certainly not a train.)
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To: Alkhin

There's a market for it. The web comic I pointed you to is sold in book form at bookstores, it's a respected entry in the field these days. They attracted the audience online, first, which might be your way to go. Take some time at look at the world of webcomics - Sluggy Freelance and MegaTokyo are the most succesful but there are a lot with devoted fans. If you're good enough, you can get published in dead-tree format.

Haunt some art boards; someone there will be looking for a writing partner!

And read some manga, even if it's not your thing, to get an idea of what the market is right now. (Try a volume each of Bleach, Fruits Basket and Ruruoni Kenshin. In the store, you don't have to buy them. Those three are very good art-wise, story-wise, they're popular and they're all very different.) Might help you out a little....


5,238 posted on 05/24/2005 8:50:26 AM PDT by JenB (I'm about to get killed a million miles from nowhere with a gung-ho iguana who tells me to relax)
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To: 2Jedismom

Sheesh.... you're really sure those are typical migraine symptoms? 'Cuz they sound really weird.


5,239 posted on 05/24/2005 8:51:32 AM PDT by JenB (I'm about to get killed a million miles from nowhere with a gung-ho iguana who tells me to relax)
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To: JenB

Wanna go to the library this afternoon?


5,240 posted on 05/24/2005 8:51:32 AM PDT by RosieCotton (Pray, hope, and don't worry. - St. Pio)
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