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It's Happening Again (We've Got Another Schiavo, Starving In GA, No Brain-Damage)
Media Release | 4-6-05 | The Family of Mae Magouirk

Posted on 04/07/2005 2:59:57 AM PDT by schmelvin

For Immediate release! To: All media, and supporters of life. From: The Family of Mae Magouirk Date: April 6, 2005 Contact: Kenneth Mullinax - Mockingbird@compuhelp.net

Shiavo case revisited in Georgia

Mae Magouirk…not comatose …not vegetative …not terminal

Why is Hospice LaGrange, Ga. withholding nourishment?

(LaGrange, Georgia) Mae Magouirk is being withheld nourishment and fluids and the provisions of her Living Will are not being honored at the Hospice-LaGrange, (1510 Vernon Street, LaGrange “Troup County” Georgia, 706-845-3905) a subsidiary of the LaGrange Hospital in LaGrange Georgia. Her family is desperately seeking to save her life before she dies of malnourishment and dehydration.

Mae Magouirk IS NOT comatose and she IS NOT vegetative. She is not terminal!

Despite these facts the Hospice and Beth Gaddy, a school teacher at LaGrange’s Calloway Middle School and granddaughter of Mae Magouirk have been denying her proactive nourishment or fluids (via a nose administered feeding tube or fluids via an IV) since March 28 without prior legal consent; against the wishes of her Living Will and against the wishes of Mae Magouirk’s closest living next of kin. Mae Magouirk’s next of kin are: Mr. A. B. McLeod (Her Brother) and Mrs. Lonnie Ruth Mullinax (Her sister) both of nearby Anniston, Alabama.

Under Georgia law, unless a medical durable power of attorney is in place, your closest living next of kin are stipulated to make all medical decisions. When Mae Magouirk’s closest living next of kin lodged a complaint with Hospice LaGrange’s in-house attorney Carol Todd last Thursday, March 31, Ms. Todd checked Mae Magouirk’s case file and upon examination of both documents discovered that Beth Gaddy DID NOT have the durable medical power of attorney for Mae Magouirk and upon closer examination of Mae Magouirk’s Living Will ascertained that fluids and nourishment were ONLY TO BE WITHHELD if she was either comatose or vegetative. SHE IS IN NEITHER STATE!!!

Nor is Mae Magouirk terminally ill. Her local LaGrange, Ga. cardiologist, Dr. James Brennan and Dr. Raed Aqel, a highly acclaimed interventional cardiologist at the nationally renowned University of Alabama-Birmingham Medical Center have determined that Mae Magouirk’s aortic dissection is contained and not presently life threatening.

Two weeks ago, Mae Magouirk’s aorta had a dissection and she was hospitalized in the LaGrange Hospital in LaGrange, Ga. Her aortic problem was at first determined to be severe and she was admitted in the intensive care Unit. Her granddaughter, Beth Gaddy, a teacher at the Calloway Middle School in LaGrange, stated that she held Mae Magouirk’s medical power of attorney and thus invoked said powers against the wishes of Mae Magouirk’s closest living next of kin by having her moved to Hospice-LaGrange. While at Hospice-LaGrange, Beth Gaddy stated that her wishes were for no nourishment for Mae Magouirk via a feeding tube or fluids via an IV. Before hospitalization Mae was lucid and never had been diagnosed with dementia as was testified to in Probate Court on Monday, April 4, by a local MD.

Page Two Mae Magouirk is being starved to death!

Upon learning from Hospice-LaGrange that Mae Magouirk was being denied nourishment and fluids and upon being told by Carol Todd (Hospice LaGrange’s in-house legal consul) that Beth Gaddy DID NOT HAVE THE PROPER LEGAL AUTHORITY to deny said nourishment AND that the denial of nourishment went against Mae Magouirk’s Living Will, Mae’s family (Mullinax/McLeod) ordered the immediate beginning of such nourishment/fluids for Mae to Hospice via Carol Todd.

First Contact with Hospice on Thursday, March 31 Carol Todd told Mrs. Lonnie Ruth Mullinax (Mae Magouirk’s sister) and Kenneth Mullinax (Mae Magouirk’s nephew) via phone on Thursday, March 31 that Georgia Law stipulated that Mrs. Mullinax and her brother A. B. McLeod (Mae Magouirk’s brother) were entitled to make any and all decisions for Mae Magouirk. Mrs. Mullinax immediately told Carol Todd to insert fluids via an IV and insert a feeding tube, via her nose. Carol Todd had the IV fluids started that evening but told the family that they would have to come to Hospice LaGrange to sign papers to have the feeding tube inserted and because of such, she believed that Mae Magouirk would no longer be a candidate for Hospice LaGrange. She was then told that Mae Magouirk’s family concurred and the ONLY REASON Mae was at Hospice was because the LaGrange Hospital had failed to exercise due diligence in closely examining the power of attorney which Beth Gaddy said she had, as well as executing the provisions of Mae’s Living Will to her preordained stipulations. Gaddy only had a financial power of attorney and did not have a medical power of attorney and Mae Magouirk’s Living Will provided that a feeding tube and fluids SHOULD ONLY BE DISSCONTINUED IF Mae was comatose or in a vegetative state. She was and is in neither state.

Attempt to rescue Mae on Friday denied by Probate Judge Donald Boyd On Friday, April 1, when A. B. McLeod (brother) and Kenneth Mullinax (nephew) showed up to meet with Carol Todd and to arrange emergency air transport of Mae Magouirk to the University of Alabama-Birmingham Medical Center (One of the top cardiovascular centers in the USA) Hospice LaGrange stalled them while Beth Gaddy went before Troup County Georgia (LaGrange, Ga.) Probate Judge Donald W. Boyd (who DOES NOT hold a law degree) who granted Beth Gaddy emergency guardianship of Mae Magouirk, giving Beth Gaddy full and absolute authority. Thus, they COULD NOT MOVE HER FOR PROACTIVE MEDICAL CARE Friday because Beth Gaddy had Hospice stop them and then she had Mae’s IV fluid tube pulled out. Beth Gaddy has repeatedly told Mr. McLeod, Mrs. Mullinax and Kenneth Mullinax that she feels they all should let Mae not eat and thus cause her to die because, and we quote Beth Gaddy: “Grandmamma is old and I think it is time she went home to Jesus. She has glaucoma, and now this heart problem and who would want to live with disabilities like these?”

As stipulated under Georgia Law, a hearing for an Emergency Guardianship, must be held within 3 days of its request and Mae Magouirk’s hearing was held on this past Monday, April 4, before Troup County Georgia Probate Judge Donald Boyd who favors granting Beth Gaddy permanent guardianship and thus will seal Mae Magouirk’s fate of allowing Beth Gaddy to starve her to death against the wishes of her Living Will and in full knowledge that Mae Magouirk is not terminal, not in a coma and is not in a vegetative state and that medical care at UAB Medical Center is awaiting her. Shiavo revisited!

Mae’s present state and vital signs Mae’s blood pressure is good, averaging 140/82 with a pulse rate of 88. However, since admission to Hospice she has not been lucid but who would be since nourishment and fluids have been denied since March 28, 2005. Also adding to her confusion is that she is off her regular medicines and is on a dose of Adavan and Morphine. Without food or water her electrolytes and body chemistry is not within its proper parameters. If her condition is not given major public attention soon, she will die, not by divine cause but by the omission of assistance by man. WE MUST GET Mae moved to UAB Medical ASAP

Resources: Probate Judge Donald Boyd…Court CASE NUMBER: Estate 138-05 Attorney for saving Mae’s life: Jack Kirby, Kirby & Roberts***


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: cultureofdeath; euthanasia; forcedexit; georgia; hospice; judicialmurder; mae; maemagouirk; magouirk; righttokill; schiavo; schindler; starvation; teri; terri; terrischiavo
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To: RGSpincich

http://www.merck.com/mrkshared/mm_geriatrics/sec5/ch40.jsp


Section 5. Delirium and Dementia
this section includes
Chapter 38. Mental Status Examination | Chapter 39. Delirium | Chapter 40. Dementia | Chapter 41. Behavior Disorders in Dementia (snip)


"The most common symptom in early dementia is diminished short-term memory. Patients repeatedly ask the same questions, often after only a few minutes, or forget where belongings were placed. The inability to locate belongings may lead to paranoia that they were stolen.

Word-finding becomes difficult; patients may forget a specific word and use elaborate circumlocution to compensate (eg, a necktie may be called "that thing around the collar"). Formerly mastered activities of daily living (eg, driving, handling finances, housekeeping) may also become difficult. A change in the level of functioning is key to diagnosis.

Other symptoms of early dementia include personality changes, emotional lability, and poor judgment. Family members may report that the patient is "not acting like himself" or is doing uncharacteristic things (eg, a miserly widower gives thousands of dollars to a questionable charity). Mood swings, including depression and euphoria, commonly occur. Although early dementia usually does not affect sociability, patients may become increasingly irritable, hostile, and agitated, especially in circumstances in which they are confronted with their cognitive impairment."

Miss Mae had a housekeeper who drove her to the beauty parlour, she understood her limitations. Her diagnosis of 'dementia' is suspect IMO, Miss Mae's misfortune was her heart condition, which is now being treated.


2,281 posted on 04/12/2005 4:16:42 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Proud to be an Aussie.)
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To: RGSpincich

I have read the WMD documents that were linked here previously.

You are correct as far as what is stated on Pg 7. This is the initial Order which states that based on "review" of the petitioner's (G-daughter)petition, the Court finds that the ward, Ora Mae Magouirk is suffering from dementia,...etc. This is what Beth "claimed"; it wasn't a proven fact at the time of being submitted to the judge on April 1st.


The FINAL ORDER is on Pg 1 of that same document. In the last paragraph of the FINDINGS OF FACT, please note that Dr.Jones "examined" Mae, filed an Evaluator's Report with the Court...."proposed ward was incapacitated by reason of mental disability..." He does not say all the things that Beth claimed. The Court's FINAL ORDER, based on the "medical" facts presented, not heresay, was signed on April 4th.

Based on the FINAL ORDER, I accept "mental disability" over presumed dementia as to cause of Mae's medical condition.


2,282 posted on 04/12/2005 4:22:26 PM PDT by Believer In Truth
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To: Cboldt
I don't believe another objection has been filed.

I guess my question is, has Mae objected?

There have been alot of claims that Mae's lack of lucidy was only the result of the alleged hospice care. Too much morphine and not enough food and water. That has presumably been reversed at UAB and I anticipate a lucid Mae to emerge soon, if what those claimants say is true. The time of reckoning is near, one way or the other.

2,283 posted on 04/12/2005 4:26:15 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: Believer In Truth

"mental dislability" sounds like a very convenient term that has absolutely no medical basis.


2,284 posted on 04/12/2005 4:27:38 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Proud to be an Aussie.)
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To: RGSpincich
There have been alot of claims that Mae's lack of lucidy was only the result of the alleged hospice care. Too much morphine and not enough food and water. That has presumably been reversed at UAB and I anticipate a lucid Mae to emerge soon, if what those claimants say is true. The time of reckoning is near, one way or the other.

On has to admit that "the claimants" (and Ken) have been proven correct that Mae was not terminal. Three out of four doctors agree.

As to Mae's lucidity, a petition for guardianship wasn't filed until April 1, so we have to assume that Mae was lucid before she was admitted to the hospital on, I think, March 22. Otherwise Gaddy would have had cause to petition the court for guardianship sooner.

As between "terminal or not" and "lucidity," the question of terminal is the more important one.

2,285 posted on 04/12/2005 4:34:25 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: RGSpincich

The old woman is accusing me of stealing money from her checking account so therefor she must be crazy! LOL!
I wouldn't make that comment if I hadn't been through a similar family situation myself. My husband's father, aged 90, accused his eldest daughter of the same, he was in a nursing home, and after he died, the money in his bank account had totally disappeared. Yep, the old man was crazy all right. Crazy enough to realize he was being robbed.


2,286 posted on 04/12/2005 4:36:48 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Proud to be an Aussie.)
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To: Fred Nerks
"mental dislability" sounds like a very convenient term that has absolutely no medical basis.

I figure it's a broad term that may have any one of a number of underlying medical diagnoses. E.g., schizophrenia, delusional, dementia, etc. The idea being that some people aren't legally qualified to look after their own interests. Ironically, a person with suicidal tendencies might be mentally disabled. Stroke vicitims and head trauma victims likely fit in there too.

2,287 posted on 04/12/2005 4:41:16 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Fred Nerks

I agree. I think that Mae's condition at the time Dr. Jones examined her may have been due to her original weaken state at the time she was transfered from the hospital to hospice (she could have been medicated at the hospital).

Then there was probably further decrease in her ability to appear lucid and coherent after her 9 days at hospice; maybe more drugs and lack of nutrition/hydration. If it's true that her attending physican had the desire to just let her die, then she was probably not receiving substance; either by mouth or by tube. If she was only getting small quantities of jello and a few ice chips...her brain wasn't getting sufficient fuel to funciton properly. Just my opinion...to many things not yet provided as fact.


2,288 posted on 04/12/2005 4:48:00 PM PDT by Believer In Truth
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To: Cboldt
On has to admit that "the claimants" (and Ken) have been proven correct that Mae was not terminal.

I wouldn't jump to that conclusion. The court order did not distinguish between terminal and receiving treatment. Many terminal cancer patients still go through intense treatments to prolong their life although the outcome is clear. It's just a matter of time and it may be the same for Mae.

I'll give you that there is time to try alternative treatments. If it keeps the flack off the doctors' backs, I'm sure they are all for it. Those doctors saw what happened in the Schiavo case, why get involved in all that?

2,289 posted on 04/12/2005 4:49:48 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: Fred Nerks

And I've got a dozen stories of senile old geezers hiding money from themselves that they can't find. They claim it was stolen.

Mae's doctor said she was suffering from dementia, according to Gaddy. Ask him if he did or didn't say that.


2,290 posted on 04/12/2005 4:55:21 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: Cboldt

Are you unhappy? Does life not seem worth living, not worth the struggle? Everything looks dark and gray? Can't be bothered to get up in the morning? How long have you felt this way? Six months! Good heavens, IT'S CHRONIC! You are Depressed! Depression is a Mental Illness! The mentally ill are not capable of controlling their own affairs, they need a court appointed guardian! Sign here. Who's next?

It ist VERBOTEN to be less than 'average' LOL!


2,291 posted on 04/12/2005 4:57:16 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Proud to be an Aussie.)
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To: RGSpincich
The court order did not distinguish between terminal and receiving treatment.

No. But the doctors' diagnosis and prescribed treatment did. She wasn't terminal when admitted to hospice. Her dissection was not immediately life threatening.

Many terminal cancer patients still go through intense treatments to prolong their life although the outcome is clear. It's just a matter of time and it may be the same for Mae.

We're all gonna die!!!! Aieeeee!!!!!!

I'll give you that there is time to try alternative treatments. If it keeps the flack off the doctors' backs, I'm sure they are all for it. Those doctors saw what happened in the Schiavo case, why get involved in all that?

Yeah. If Ken had just kept this a quiet family matter, everything would have worked out sooner. At any rate, the doctors had to get involved. They were bound by a court order. They were not bound to find Mae's condition to be treatable. They could have found her terminal and vindicated Gaddy, Dr. Stoudt, and hospice.

2,292 posted on 04/12/2005 4:58:31 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Fred Nerks

Was doing some research on opinions and programs for "dying"

Once they can diagnose someone with dementia- the writing is on the wall. I am not a doctor, but I picture someone on lots of drugs responding much in the same way I picture someone suffering from dementia!


Here is a snip:
The team conducted a retrospective cohort study of patients with advanced dementia admitted to all Medicare- and Medicaid-certified nursing facilities in New York (derivation cohort, n = 6799) and Michigan (validation cohort, n = 4631) during 1994-1998 and 1998-2000, respectively.

A mortality risk score based on 12 MDS factors associated with 6-month mortality risk identified in the derivation cohort was evaluated in the validation cohort. Six categories of risk of mortality within 6 months were calculated. The authors provide within their report a score sheet for estimating 6-month prognosis and stratifying patients into levels of risk.

http://www.thehospice.org/phys.htm

This may be the key used by doctors. Diagnose dementia and boom- into Hospice you go!

Also- I found it interesting that the study was done at places funded by Medicaid and same type programs. I mean privatley paid care I am sure is better- so the results may be MUCH different. I will continue research on this....

also-- the Hospice where Terri died is funded (at least in part) by Medicaid:
How is Payment Provided for Medications?
Hospice receives a per diem fixed rate from Medicare, Medicaid or private insurance company to assume responsibility for providing related medications and all other services.

http://www.thehospice.org/phys06.htm


2,293 posted on 04/12/2005 5:00:39 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (Don't Change Minds, Change Lives! Sherri Reese)
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To: Cboldt
Her dissection was not immediately life threatening.

I guess we can't agree on what terminal is. You seem to think that it means that death is right around the corner. I was thinking it was closer to six months like the hospice guidelines dictate.

2,294 posted on 04/12/2005 5:02:58 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: RGSpincich

Being old and little forgetful is perfectly normal. The term 'senile old geezers' is offensive. Are you planning to live long enough to become one yourself?


2,295 posted on 04/12/2005 5:03:09 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Proud to be an Aussie.)
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To: Fred Nerks

Grow a skin. I am a senile old geezer...and I like it.


2,296 posted on 04/12/2005 5:04:53 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: MACVSOG68

I think you have at least tried to be fair, level-headed, and honest on this thread. You've asked some reasonable questions and have refrained from getting ugly when you disagree with others.

Re: Your comment about this thread's title:

I took great care in selecting the title of this thread. I did not want to misrepresent the situation, but I also needed to get the right people to take notice. I needed to get this thread posted in the "Latest News on Terri Schiavo" section to keep it from being overlooked and getting buried. I also was careful to comment that I did not know if this was true or a hoax and then began investigating the allegations as soon as I could. Other FReepers joined in and immediately began investigating the matter as well.

It was not easy getting information regarding this case, especially in the beginning. We did what we could, with the information we had, the best way we knew how, and with the very best of intentions. Much more information has been coming out in the aftermath; information that we could've only known back then if we'd all had crystal balls that enabled us to see the future. Some people are now attempting to criticize us based on their interpretation of court documents that none of us had access to until recently.

Where were these critics during our early information gathering stage? If they knew so many concrete facts, why didn't they tell us? It's because they didn't know, and they didn't care enough to find out. Some voiced their early obections based on nothing but their own preconceived notions and willful ignorance, allowed others to do all the work and information gathering for them, and then came back later to play 20/20 hindsight gods of omniscience based on their biased interpretation of the facts we are all now privy to.

Here are some facts:

* Beth Gaddy knew that Mae's condition could be treated successfully at UAB, but fought tooth and nail to keep Mae in that hopice.

* Mae arrived at UAB severly dehydrated and malnourished.

* Beth Gaddy will not allow any family members to visit Mae at UAB.

* Beth Gaddy cannot be reached for comment.

Please, explain to me how any reasonable person can be expected to believe that Ken is the bad guy in this situation and Gaddy is the loving devoted granddaughter?

I read those court documents. This is not just a case of Ken's word against Beth's . Buddy and Lonnie's sworn statements back up everything that Ken is saying. It was Buddy and Lonnie who asked Ken to become involved after they became concerned that the doctors were dragging their feet while Mae was being denied proper medical care, adequate nutrition, and adequate hydration. How does this make Ken the bad guy?

If Ken had been a Republican instead of a Democrat, would he then be considered a good guy? Do petty politics now matter more to us than the principles we hold most dear? Should we ignore a desperate plea to save the life of an innocent woman, because that plea came from the mouth of an icky, icky Democrat? Is that what we've come to?


2,297 posted on 04/12/2005 5:07:25 PM PDT by schmelvin
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To: RGSpincich
I guess we can't agree on what terminal is.

"Terminal" is always related to an underlying medical condition. It doesn't exist in isolation. Are you asserting that Mae has a medical condition with a prognosis of "terminal?"

You seem to think that it means that death is right around the corner. I was thinking it was closer to six months like the hospice guidelines dictate.

"Terminal" is always related to an underlying medical condition. The prognosis of terminal usually has a time component associated with it. Admission to hospice requires TWO things. A prognosis of terminal, and an estimated time to demise of 6 months or less.

2,298 posted on 04/12/2005 5:07:26 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: RGSpincich

"Like the hospice guidelines dictate"

Thanks but no thanks. I wouldn't want my doctor to admit me to a facility where my survival depended upon 'hospice guideline dictates'. Would you?


2,299 posted on 04/12/2005 5:09:42 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Proud to be an Aussie.)
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To: Fred Nerks

ROF (I think ??)

Do you think that with Mae's estate estimated at a value of over $200K, she might have had valid concerns about Beth dipping into the kitty. Could be why Beth wants gramma to go home to Jesus! Mae should rescind that POA like yesterday! And Ken should petition the Court to amend or set a "limit" on Beth's financial ability granted on that Final Order. She could wipe out Mae's assets before the family or Mae could stop her....just an opinion.


2,300 posted on 04/12/2005 5:13:25 PM PDT by Believer In Truth
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