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I don't think that the reference points for . . . tangible reality are very graspable by some in some contexts.
Pity. Ah well.
It should make wake-up day all the more interesting.
--in a sad manner of speaking.
What shockingly amazing tid bits one learns on the internet! What a surprise.
I believe this is called "Fermi's Paradox."
Enrico Fermi postulated that any civilization with a certain level of proficiency in rocket technology and sufficient ambition should be able to colonize the galaxy within something like twenty million years. Now, twenty million years sounds like a lot, but it's peanuts compared with the age of the galaxy which is measured in thousands of millions of years, and not even all that much on the geologic time scale we use to measure the age of the earth. Twenty million years ago was already the time of the Autralopithicines.
Fermi then asked the obvious question: where is everybody? That there are no aliens openly walking around seems to imply that there aren't any. Or, that if life does occur elsewhere in the universe, it is uncommon enough that it is isolated by vast intergalactic distances and the result is much the same.
Most answers to Fermi's paradox seem to revolve around anthropomorphizing the aliens, that they have some cultural reason to remain secret like a Star-Trek prime directive. The alternative is the anti-anthropomorphizing argument that the aliens are so different that we cannot detect, understand, or comprehend their communication. Neither of these answers are particularly satisfying, in my opinion.
Of course. The fungible and...tangible...graspable points are not as reality-based as the machinations of some would have us believe. 'Twill be a pity. "Parameter" is a word I'd like to use in this sentence.
If so, they must be amazing
IMACULATE CONTRAPTIONS.
Given the vasectomy and being only with one woman who never had kids.
But then, reality never did seem to slow you up in your creations much, did it.
No, my paramaters and graspable points are not as fungible as other characterizations would be. In my opinion. Science!
Oookay.
Supposedly, those postulations slip thru
the real realities
like water through a sieve for a list of reasons I couldn't begin to guess at, much less articulate.
If one's impressions from folks who 'know' are to be believed.
Do you enjoy calling Gordon Cooper a liar?
I think you have more correctly described what I read.
It just got me to thinking about where they would actually have to originate from, and what those implications are. Absent some time-space travel bend by going the speed of light, they would have to come from our solar system, which does not appear to have even the most remote chance of happening.
No, see, you could indeed reach a chronological age of a thousand - that is, on Earth, a thousand years have passed since your birh - while having only physiologically reached the age of thirty or so. From your perspective, on the space ship, the outside universe has sped up. From its perspective you have slowed down.
The spaceship spends 4.36 in transit - that is, an observer on Earth would watch as it moves about for 4.36 years. The passenger on the spaceship would notice considerably less time passing. It's a tricky sort of concept. But apparently true.
I'm beginning to think that science is about as much your strong point as kindness is.
In which case, I wouldn't wan to be around while you were trying to start a fire in the fire place.
Cooper also aserted that UFOs were benign and were here to be friends and help the earth. And YOOOOUUUU say that they're evil demons in cahoots with Satan! Shame on you for calling such a fine and distinguished man a liar.
True, IMO also.
Just remember all you nay-sayers, kook patrol whistle-blowers, and closed minds in all this. Everything that is brought here for discussion is FR documented, including the oppositional content. You will be reminded of your close-mindedness when the green or grey alien sh*t hits the fan someday.
Anyone who runs ping lists for UFOs, dreams, and visions knows as much about science as an African aboriginal knows about nuclear thermodynamics. Sorry, but das de way it is.
Traveling close to the speed of light (according to the theory of relativity, no physical object can actually travel at the speed of light) does indeed change that principle, insofar as that what takes 25 years from the perspective of everyone else outside the spacecraft, takes only (say) 4 years from the perspective of the people and things inside the spacecraft. I don't fully understand the reasons why myself, I just know for certain that that's what physicists universally accept.
Apparently there've been experiments of various kinds to demonstrate this. One of the better known (if I recall correctly) involved sending planes around the world with atomic clocks on board, and comparing them to atomic clocks on the ground. The clocks on board the planes experienced a slightly shorter (like, microseconds only) passage of time than the ones on the ground.
Interstellar distances are vast. Even with a sufficiently advanced technology indistinguishable by us from magic, traveling to a foreign planet would still be a non-trivial undertaking. I can't imagine a sophisticated and technological civilization mounting an expedition to our planet for the purpose of making "beep-beep" noises in front of some poor farmer whom no one will believe anyway.
I don't call him a liar at all.
I just think he's mistaken, uninformed on that point.
You are getting overly tedius, BTW.
And increasingly unfun, if you ever were fun.
As is even true now but will be more true then,
God Alone is our High Tower, security, safety.
No, that's not the way it is at all.
That's the way your assumptions delude you.
Then your meanness takes over.
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