Posted on 03/24/2005 10:18:36 PM PST by popop
I hear so many of you talk about the sanctity of Schiavo's innocent life... why, then, can you support the war in Iraq which has taken thousands of lives, many innocent?
I hope you are trolling. No one can be that stupid (?) Terrorists are not innocents. We do not deliberately target innocents - terrorists do. We actually put ourselves at greater risk to avoid collateral damage.
Innocent casualties have been reduced to a minimum. We could have justly bombed the whole of Iraq, instead of putting more American lives at risk. Go back to DU commie.
Big suprise, this account has been banned....didn't tak long. Thanks moderators!
John, you should have lurked and read a few threads and discussions before pooping on the floor and embarrassing yourself.
"By any rational standard of morality, any wartime harm to the most innocent of Iraqis is entirely the responsibility of their government. Our moral right, and responsibility, is to do everything possible to safeguard American lives, however many civilian casualties that goal may require. We may lament the loss of innocent Iraqis during the war, just as we lament the loss of innocent Americans. But we should not apologize, since the blame, in both cases, rests entirely with the enemy, who made it necessary for us to wage war to defend ourselves against his threat." -- P. Schwartz, here: http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?id=2659
That Siamese Cat is not one to put up with to much witty human BS.
He totally has that I am not amused and my paws are sharp look.
Do you live in his house?
No. You can get all kinds of cranky cats on mycatehatesyou.com, so I go there for troll catchers. My cat is too cute to go on that site.:)
Hey, we need more cat photos!
My mistake, sorry, on edge these past few days.
Read ROMANS chapter 1 .
Were you around when the left was ignoring the murder of millions of Ukrainians by Stalin and later, the mass murders of Cambodians by Pol Pot or was all that before your time? Lefties were tripping all over themselves in their eagerness to support these regimes.
Maybe you would be for this war, too, if we promise to "humanely starve and dehydrate" all the unlawful combatants?
It's cool.
I'm a bit tweaked by the events of this week as well.
Time for a Bridgeport India Pale Ale....Yum.
How many of you who oppose the defense of our nation support the abortion murder of 1,300 children each day.
Ah, I forgot. The UN's not corrupt for taking all those bribes from Iraq to look the other way, it was just trying to assist in "humanely starving and dehydrating" the Iraqi people as an alternative to helping them free themselves of an undeniably tyrannical Baathist regime & eliminating a growing long-range missile threat to Europe and Iraq's neighbors. That's why all those food for oil supplies were rotting in the warehouses of Basra while the world piddled around doing nothing, tsk-tsking Iraq for gassing villages, right?
I support Terri's right to LIFE and strongly think that the courts are wrong for accepting hearsay to legally murder an innocent woman.
In Hebrew, there are nine different words that mean "to cause the death of another." The word that is used in the sixth Commandment means specifically to murder an innocent human being.
Exodus 20
13 "You shall not murder.
Webster's Dictionary defines murder as "the act of unlawfully killing a human being with premeditated malice." This doesn't prohibit all forms of killing people. There are three ways of killing human beings that are not forbidden by this commandment from YHWH.
YHWH's Word actually protects three ways of killing as being legitimate under certain circumstances.
The first legitimate way of killing a person is legal capital punishment for gross and heinous crimes committed against other people. In Genesis 9:6, YHWH said to Noah, "Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed; for in the image of God made He man." Immediately after Noah’s Flood, YHWH authorized people to establish governments that would bring order and justice to society. Part of the authority given to a government is to execute its worse criminals with the death penalty.
Whether we like it or not, the Bible allows for the death penalty for certain crimes. Leviticus 24:17 says, "And he that smiteth any man mortally shall surely be put to death."
God authorizes governments to use the death penalty on hard-core criminals. Numbers 35:16-21 affirms it. The Bible says the execution of a quick penalty serves as a deterrent to crime (Deuteronomy 13:11; Ecclesiastes 8:11). This same principle carries into the New Testament. In Romans 13:4, Paul says a policeman "is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer."
Paul said in Acts 25:11, "If I am guilty of doing anything deserving of death, I do not refuse to die." This shows that Paul believed in the legitimacy of capital punishment.
The second legitimate way of killing is that of a just war. The question is, what constitutes a just war? Does it mean beating Hitler and squashing the Nazis, at the cost of 30 million dead in Europe?
Proverb 20:18 says, "Every purpose is established by counsel; and with good advice carry on war." Proverb 24:6 adds, "For with wise advice thou shalt make thy war; and in the multitude of counsellors there is safety." Clearly, YHWH considers some wars to be just.
The bottom line is, when a soldier shoots another soldier on the battlefield or fires off a bomb with the benevolent goal of defending the lives of innocent people from a tyrant, it is not the same as murder, and it does not violate commandment six.
The third legitimate way of killing is that of self-defense. Exodus 22:2 says, "If a thief be found breaking in, and be smitten so that he dieth, there shall be no bloodguiltiness for him."
So, you see, you can support life and still support war, self defense and the death penalty.
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