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Teri Schindler Shiavo: The Vatican needs more than words
self | 3/21/2005 | self

Posted on 03/21/2005 8:27:13 AM PST by JosephW

I've just read that the Vatican has released a statement saying that Teri should live. They are right, but they are empowered to do much more and the actions have been missing.

From what I understand Michael (HINO) won't divorce Teri and give custody to her parents as he would then be unable to have a church wedding with with mistress Jodi.

Should not the Bishop declare that he has removed himself from the church by his actions and thus bar him from the sacrament of marriage within the church?

This is not posted to cause any Catholic bashing, and if it does I will request the mods pull it! Maybe there is something the RCC can do, and maybe we should be talking to his bishop about it.


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To: Rutles4Ever

The Kennedys have never had a pronblem with adultery and marriage in the church.


61 posted on 03/21/2005 8:58:46 AM PST by kalee
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To: kalee

You're comparing this to the Kennedys? The Kennedy situation may be questionable, but last I checked, none of the wives were starved to death because they were inconvenient.


62 posted on 03/21/2005 9:01:09 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Warning: may eat own)
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To: expatguy
Hopefully the Feds will be moving in soon.

Promise?

63 posted on 03/21/2005 9:01:09 AM PST by Saundra Duffy (Terri Schiavo is my hero!!!)
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To: JosephW
Is there anyway that he could receive an annulment?

At least not for a remarriage with this woman, considering the relevant canon law posted above. Maybe he could get remarried to someone else.

The two essential components for a valid marriage are that at the time of marriage the spouses must intend a lifelong commitment and openness to children. It certainly seems possible that he didn't intend a lifelong commitment at the time of the marriage.

64 posted on 03/21/2005 9:01:25 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: auburntiger

He wouldn't be excommunicated. He would be considered an adulterer. The Church recognizes all marriages (except for civil ceremonies) as unbreakable - not just marriages in the Church.


66 posted on 03/21/2005 9:02:35 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Warning: may eat own)
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To: Saundra Duffy
They have every right to and they have a reason to.

In fact, the situation might arise where they actually have to to ensure her safety.

Things are moving very fast now.

If they did this would not be the first time that the Feds have been called in like this.

67 posted on 03/21/2005 9:04:22 AM PST by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: auburntiger
A Protestand can not be excommunicated
68 posted on 03/21/2005 9:04:28 AM PST by Kaslin (If the left is against it, then I am for it!!!)
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To: JesseHousman

Thanks for chiming in, Jesse. We were lost without your expertise on the Catholic Church.


69 posted on 03/21/2005 9:05:36 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Warning: may eat own)
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To: Aquinasfan

And if they find a church to do it I think Freepers should attend. When the priest asks if anyone knows why these two should not be joined in marriage, the Freepers should stand up and say "YES, TERRI!"

Does the RCC still post banns of marriage? If they do, people could object before the wedding when the banns are posted.


70 posted on 03/21/2005 9:07:06 AM PST by kalee
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To: tfecw
of course it happens. That's why i made the point of saying it used to be. Just like mass used to be said in Latin.

My point was a) it's perfectly within Church rules and b) while it is probably more common now (apparently now all you need is the bishop's sign-off, not a formal waiver?), I don't think it's a new thing.

71 posted on 03/21/2005 9:08:17 AM PST by JohnnyZ ("Thought I was having trouble with my adding. It's all right now." - Clint Eastwood)
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To: Rutles4Ever

I said that the Kennedy's had little problem getting married in the Church after committing adultery and divorcing. I never said any of them starved their wives.


72 posted on 03/21/2005 9:09:44 AM PST by kalee
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To: JesseHousman
Apparently hell will freeze over before the Vatican says or does anything of significance on an issue as boring as euthanasia

Hey bigot go back to burning down churches and leave us alone!

The Pope has been ALL OVER the euthanasia issue, and you would see that if you weren't blinded by hate.

73 posted on 03/21/2005 9:10:10 AM PST by JohnnyZ ("Thought I was having trouble with my adding. It's all right now." - Clint Eastwood)
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To: JosephW

It is amazing to me that this is happening during Easter week. Easter week. Saints preserve us, and God help us that there are those who want to see her dead.


74 posted on 03/21/2005 9:10:34 AM PST by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch.)
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To: Rutles4Ever

You're welcome.

75 posted on 03/21/2005 9:11:17 AM PST by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal Today)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Prescisly


76 posted on 03/21/2005 9:13:15 AM PST by Kaslin (If the left is against it, then I am for it!!!)
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To: JesseHousman

While you have raise a few points they overall tone of your post was insulting to Catholics and is the very type I requested not to see on this thread. I have requested the mods pull your post.


77 posted on 03/21/2005 9:14:14 AM PST by JosephW (The world must stop Mad Mo and his orcs)
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To: JosephW

they overall should be the overall

I've got to proof a bit better


78 posted on 03/21/2005 9:15:46 AM PST by JosephW (The world must stop Mad Mo and his orcs)
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To: JosephW
a little over sensitive?

I'm catholic and didn't find it offensive. The only thing i found bothersome was calling the catholic church the RCC. It's not the Roman Catholic Church, it's the Catholic Church.
79 posted on 03/21/2005 9:16:35 AM PST by tfecw (Vote Democrat, It's easier than working)
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To: Rutles4Ever
He wouldn't be excommunicated. He would be considered an adulterer. The Church recognizes all marriages (except for civil ceremonies) as unbreakable - not just marriages in the Church.

THe Catholic church does not have the authority to esxcommunicate a Protestant

80 posted on 03/21/2005 9:16:51 AM PST by Kaslin (If the left is against it, then I am for it!!!)
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