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ZOT! Taxing Pot...Could it solve the social security problem?

Posted on 03/21/2005 6:06:07 AM PST by FeebleAttempt

Why dont we just tax the heck outta pot and make it legal? i believe it would pay for my generation, and it would be all government controlled.You would have to be 21, i mean am i missing something here or are we missing an opportunity? If we just let go of this taboo crap we might get along without any social security problems.All the taxes from pot go to SS, what do ya think


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To: FeebleAttempt

I suspect posts such as this are actually made by people who are against drug legalization and want to talk about it again and again and again. Either that or these posts are made by people who enjoy the heck out of the usual pot jokes. But my favoite debates on this site are the ones where people suggest others aren't TRUE conservatives. Those are the best... and then the same folks get a chance to trash libertarians too! What fun, it won't be long before the usual characters raise their pot-sniffing heads to remind us all that drugs are wrong because they are illegal and illegal because they are wrong. Enjoy the debate warriors... it's almost as good as viagra and arrousing as a fine cigar.


21 posted on 03/21/2005 6:18:59 AM PST by rhombus
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To: FeebleAttempt; Gabz; 4mycountry; TheBigB; VRWCmember; Zavien Doombringer; jriemer; mhking; ...
ha!

Take a sniff of this!



Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my Viking Kitty/ZOT ping list!. . .don't be shy.


22 posted on 03/21/2005 6:25:49 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Tsunamii

Not to get down on you here, but I'm kind of growing tired of the whole "Prison is not a deterrent" thing. You know what? Prison IS a deterrent. The death penalty IS a deterrent. The world is absolutely FULL of people who DON'T do stuff because they might go to jail as a result.

For example: When I lived in Seattle, I met Baghdad Jim McDermott and Mike "Yasser" Lowry on several occasions. The only thing that kept me from personally punching McVermin directly in his big mouth is the knowledge that I would go directly to jail for assaulting a member of Congress. I had to settle for calling him a traitorous (extremely imaginative invective deleted) straight to his face. I feel pretty good about that.

My point is that you can't logically prove the non-existence of something, at least not in this case. Education is a good idea. Raising your kids properly is part of education, perhaps the most important part.

And, FWIW, I don't really have a problem with pot being legalized, as long as proper controls are in place. In my experience, it mostly keeps mildly retarded people at home and out of my way.


23 posted on 03/21/2005 6:26:46 AM PST by Father Jack (Confused, Stupid, and Documented)
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To: rhombus

It too bad that "fine cigars" and illegal also. Though Cuban cigards are not what they were some are still the best there are.


24 posted on 03/21/2005 6:26:59 AM PST by Tsunamii
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To: FeebleAttempt

You are very conservative in your use of apostrophes. Did you skip fourth grade?


25 posted on 03/21/2005 6:28:15 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: FeebleAttempt

They are taxing the hell outta cigarettes and alcohol. SS is still in trouble.

Your name fits.


26 posted on 03/21/2005 6:29:08 AM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: FeebleAttempt

"and i am a conservative"
Like, wow, man!


27 posted on 03/21/2005 6:29:52 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: MeekOneGOP

thanks for the ping. LOL


28 posted on 03/21/2005 6:31:57 AM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: FeebleAttempt

The make-pot-legal-and-tax-it argument doesn't fly. All taxes are a dead weight loss, and it's bad policy to argue something should be legal to tax it. You can argue the lost productivity of people who go to prison because pot is illegal, you can argue the potential of jobs created if pot were legalized, you can argue the possibility that crime would be reduced, prison populations would decrease and the costs of running prisons would go down.

But you can't argue the legalize and tax it, because that's stupid.

Worse, you can't argue taxing anything to save social security, because saving social security is also stupid. Pay the folks who are 50 and older what they've been promised, then let the rest of us sink or swim.


29 posted on 03/21/2005 6:32:17 AM PST by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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To: FeebleAttempt

Great 40 year old idea!


30 posted on 03/21/2005 6:32:32 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Okay, you evolved. I was created. Get used to it.)
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To: FeebleAttempt

32 posted on 03/21/2005 6:34:50 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Okay, you evolved. I was created. Get used to it.)
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To: Jet Jaguar
:^D

33 posted on 03/21/2005 6:34:58 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: FeebleAttempt
the post is about taxing pot, why wouldnt it work?

Let's see, if we could get around these tricky little issues, it might work:

1. Many users might prefer to buy from sources that don't keep a record of the transaction and don't report and pay taxes on the drug transactions.
2. The participants in the illegal distribution networks might not be exactly enthusiastic about all of the sudden changing to the newly legal distribution networks which will require a lot of administrative red tape and volutarily relinquishing a large portion of their profits to the tax man.
3. Like tobacco and alcohol, pot sales to minors (a hugh chuck of the market) would be illegal and so this portion of the market would remain underground and untaxed.
4. Legalization and taxation of pot would only make enforcement of other drug laws more difficult. But I suppose you're really supporting legalization of not only pot but also meth, crack, LSD, cocaine heroine, ecstasy, and all other illicit drugs as well aren't you.

34 posted on 03/21/2005 6:35:20 AM PST by VRWCmember
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To: FeebleAttempt

HUH? Have you been smoking pot in the morning again?

35 posted on 03/21/2005 6:36:16 AM PST by PilloryHillary (Can vegetarians eat animal crackers?)
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To: FeebleAttempt

LOL, I spent my childhood with my parents telling me how bad pot was. I now know my mother smokes it on a regular basis. She thinks it's great.

I wouldn't even know where to find the stuff. Don't care. Got too much living to do.


37 posted on 03/21/2005 6:39:15 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: FeebleAttempt

Would you still be able to afford it if it were taxed?


38 posted on 03/21/2005 6:43:19 AM PST by jennyjenny
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To: theorique

i suppose all you drunkies out there are just fine with your habit cause its legal. but it hurts more than pot ever has, i may smoke like a slob, but i dont contribute to 70% of driving fatalities.


39 posted on 03/21/2005 6:44:05 AM PST by FeebleAttempt
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To: FeebleAttempt
Wow. A newbie. I thought you were one of the original Class of 98 Freepers. The logic is very similar. That being said,

Ah think yew shud b zotted.

40 posted on 03/21/2005 6:46:19 AM PST by Richard Kimball (It was a joke. You know, humor. Like the funny kind. Only different.)
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