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American Idol 2005--Live Thread
3-15-05

Posted on 03/15/2005 5:53:32 AM PST by silent_jonny

AMERICAN IDOL 2005
LIVE THREAD

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Music/Entertainment; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: americanidol; americanidolbo; babymamasfault; bo; carriewon; funpeoplethread; getseriesguys; idol; losethefatguy; texasflower; thedemiseoffr; weloveyoutammy
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To: silent_jonny; All
Entertainment Tonight posted the songs for tonight:

1. "Inside Your Heaven" (new AI single that both Carrie and Bo will sing)

2. "Angels Brought Me Here" (#1 hit for the Australian Pop Idol). Bo's doing some song called "Long Long Road"

3. "Independence Day" for Carrie, "Vehicle" for Bo.

8,201 posted on 05/24/2005 5:28:16 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert; doodlelady; texasflower; GraniteStateConservative; Wolfstar
So if you couldn't see the show, who would you vote for right now?

I've been loyal to Carrie all season (as many of you know :), but now that it's between her and Bo, I'm hoping Bo will win.

Carrie has the better voice, but Bo is clearly the better performer. Like I said to Doodlelady yesterday, Bo is comfortable on stage and that allows the audience to be comfortable. Carrie, OTOH, is often so stiff and nervous that it's distracting. She can overcome that in time and will have a great career (and if she goes on tour with Fedorov, they'll be unstoppable!). But the question to ask is: Who's ready to be Idol right now? The answer (to me at least) is Bo.

8,202 posted on 05/24/2005 5:53:12 AM PDT by silent_jonny
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To: silent_jonny; A CA Guy
Who's ready to be Idol right now? The answer (to me at least) is Bo.

Thanks, Jonny.
You and A CA Guy nailed it, IMO.
Bo's ready now.

Tonight should be fun...wish we could watch it
simul-like-type-taniously
instead of 3 hrs. L8R

8,203 posted on 05/24/2005 8:11:28 AM PDT by b9 ("Life is more than what we see."~ GVgirl)
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To: All

People Magazine is saying the song for Carrie is "An Angel Brought Me Here Today." So, it might not be Guy Sebastian's song, but AI does like to reuse songs across all their Pop Idol shows.


8,204 posted on 05/24/2005 9:05:42 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: doodlelady

AI can actually produce hit records with Bo and the other lady can at best hope for a weak Country Western hit ONE TIME.

I predict BO will actuall have a career that might surpass Kelly.

Reuben and Fantasia were the worst AI winners and it has been proved out by the fact they have pretty much no career.


8,205 posted on 05/24/2005 10:35:04 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: doodlelady; texasflower
So your point is, we shouldn't be impressed by Bo's awesome a capella rendition of "Within a Dream" because he's sung it before?

For many, it was a big part of it:

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/story/312377p-267235c.html

Bo Bice

...

WHY HE'LL WIN: His style ranges from Lynyrd ­Skynyrd to the O'Jays. Has guts — he sang his last song, "In a Dream," without music.

So, how gutsy was that performance if he'd done it before, probably many times before in previous gigs?
8,206 posted on 05/24/2005 10:39:46 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
So, how gutsy was that performance

You just can't let it go, can you?
Who cares how many times he's sung it?!
A capella in front of millions takes guts every time.

Have you tried it?

8,207 posted on 05/24/2005 10:58:11 AM PDT by b9 ("Life is more than what we see."~ GVgirl)
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To: A CA Guy
AI can actually produce hit records with Bo

Hope so.
I've never wanted to buy AI music or see AI concerts til now.

8,208 posted on 05/24/2005 11:16:09 AM PDT by b9 ("Life is more than what we see."~ GVgirl)
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To: doodlelady

Saw Kelly perform life under a couple of weeks ago, she was kind of heavy, but had a fine voice.

Unless you are into popular music, I doubt you are going to like where AI would produce these people.

IMO, they throw them at the target audience where the money is.

I see Bo doing Rob Thomas or Creed type songs.


8,209 posted on 05/24/2005 11:20:15 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
It is such a close call that Bo's mother NANCY DOWNES

Step-mother, or does his mother just not use the last name of Bice for some reason?

8,210 posted on 05/24/2005 11:35:50 AM PDT by Netizen (Back from a 1-3 day suspension, for pointing out to a mod their unfair suspension of another poster.)
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To: k2blader

It will be fun to see who outsells who.


8,211 posted on 05/24/2005 11:40:26 AM PDT by Netizen (Back from a 1-3 day suspension, for pointing out to a mod their unfair suspension of another poster.)
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To: A CA Guy
He's ready to go entertain professionaly NOW, he is not a work in progress like the other lady will be.

One would think so. He's been entertaining professionally for years. (as in getting paid) The other lady? There is only one female left, unless you know something about Bo that the rest of us don't.

8,212 posted on 05/24/2005 11:45:32 AM PDT by Netizen (Back from a 1-3 day suspension, for pointing out to a mod their unfair suspension of another poster.)
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To: doodlelady
Since when is someone punished for being too professional?!!!

AI is about and for AMATEURS!!! What is an amateur? It's a person that lacks professional skill or expertise. In sports it is a person that hasn't been paid for their performance.

8,213 posted on 05/24/2005 11:50:36 AM PDT by Netizen (Back from a 1-3 day suspension, for pointing out to a mod their unfair suspension of another poster.)
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To: Netizen

I forget her name now and then, she isn't that memerable.


8,214 posted on 05/24/2005 11:52:35 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Netizen

So you think all the Idol contestants have never
sung for money? Was that the contest criteria or
just your excuse to exclude Bo?


8,215 posted on 05/24/2005 11:54:30 AM PDT by b9 ("Life is more than what we see."~ GVgirl)
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To: texasflower
Do you really think Bo has any room to grow at all?

I agree with you. It's like he is in a rut. He ought to sing Clapton's 'Cocaine' and Anka's 'You're Having My Baby'. There's an idol for ya!

8,216 posted on 05/24/2005 11:56:53 AM PDT by Netizen (Back from a 1-3 day suspension, for pointing out to a mod their unfair suspension of another poster.)
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To: texasflower

Tonight's the Night!

Article from NY Daily News:

No 'Idol' before us

Tonight, either Bo or Carrie will triumph
and become the worst 'AI' yet

So it comes down to this: a cut-rate country singer vs. a man who does the least credible impersonation of a rock star since Pat Boone.
Tonight at 8, millions will witness the ­season's final smackdown of "American Idol" on Fox.

It pits Carrie Underwood against Bo Bice.

She's a Nashville striver so ­plastic she makes Shania Twain seem like she was born in a holler. He's a should-be lounge singer who somehow mistook himself for a member of Lynyrd Skynyrd.

Wouldn't it be great if both could lose?

Alas, no such tender mercy can save us.

Following tonight's ­­showdown, tomorrow will bring a commercial-crammed two-hour episode, during which one indisputable winner will be declared. Then America's pop charts will have to deal with the consequences for a year — or more.

So who will it be?

It's hard not to give a major shoulder shrug, considering the still-puzzling upset of Clay Aiken vs. Ruben Studdard two years ago. The skinny Clay seemed to have more of the crowd smitten, only to lose at the last minute to his portly rival. The fact that Clay went on to outsell ­Ruben proves how odd — and off — these results can be.

I'm leaning toward Bo, if only ­because he has the higher profile, not to mention the ability to inspire more jokes on "Saturday Night Live" — a sure sign of cultural resonance.

Yet some things about tonight's show can be stated for sure.

First, whoever wins will be the worst victor in "AI's" four-season reign of terror.

You don't have to be ­Simon to know that 2005's contestants have sunk to new lows. They've suffered from less sure pitch and a less nuanced understanding of the lyrics than ever before, and that's a near ­Herculean feat.

The other twist for 2005's edition is that the two finalists come from genres outside the one that has dominated the contest so far: R&B-pop. While that gives "AI" some ­badly needed variety, it brings the singers into trickier commercial turf than ­previous contestants.

Earlier winners and first ­runners-up enjoyed the generous context of R&B, which in the past has ­welcomed ­singers as iffy as J.Lo, Ciara and Ashanti. That's because R&B is ­often a producer's medium, where sonic tricks make the hit.

Should Bo win, he has to face something far riskier: the credibility factor of rock. And at the moment he has less of it than Donny Osmond.

Carrie has to deal with the fact that country music favors Nashville ­insiders, which could well hurt her potential fan base.

Then again, at this point the vast "AI" fan vortex and hype machine represents a genre unto itself. It's a universe of cheesiness every bit ­as popular, and undying, as Velveeta.

Tonight, be ready to choke down the heftiest slice yet.


8,217 posted on 05/24/2005 11:57:52 AM PDT by Palladin (No Korans were abused in the making of this post.)
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To: Netizen
AI is about and for AMATEURS!!! What is an amateur? It's a person that lacks professional skill or expertise.

An American Idol purest? It is not like Bo has ever had a real record deal. Bo met the criteria and deserves to win. After two failures, AI finally will get a winner. Although I think Carrie might do well also.

8,218 posted on 05/24/2005 11:58:21 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Palladin
First, whoever wins will be the worst victor in "AI's" four-season reign of terror.

Fantasia will be a tough act to beat in that category.

8,219 posted on 05/24/2005 12:01:30 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Why invest all this money and time into a guy who will be going down the hill of his prime by the time the next season of AI starts up?

Tell that to Mic Jaggar.

8,220 posted on 05/24/2005 12:03:33 PM PDT by Always Right
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