American Idol 2005--Live Thread

AOL has a poll on the "story."

The results are no surprise:

Do you believe Corey Clark's accusations?
No 52%
Some of them 26%
Yes 22%

Will the report help or hurt 'American Idol'?
Neither 54%
Hurt 32%
Help 14%

Do you think 'Idol' is fair?
Yes 52%
No 48%
Total Votes: 9,364

5,821 posted on 05/04/2005 9:14:21 PM PDT by TonyWpi ("There's nowhere to go but down!" - Monica Lewinski)

Where do you think Scott's (legitimate) votes will go?

To Anthony. Anthony comes the closest to the style that Scott was singing, imo. so, I think Anthony gains.

5,822 posted on 05/04/2005 9:22:28 PM PDT by Netizen

Down here...commercial breaks were all about the cheerleaders. How if they don't stop the pelvic thrust routines, they'll all get STD's and get knocked up.

You must live in DFW...

5,823 posted on 05/04/2005 9:29:45 PM PDT by StrictTime (Shameless BUMP for Taglinus FreeRepublicus!!)

Look in malls for his appearances.

He he he.

5,824 posted on 05/04/2005 9:55:36 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe (Proud paid poster since 2003)

Everybody has different taste; and if she does have serious problems, even drugs, I think it's dreadful that ABC is doing this to her.

Amen.

5,825 posted on 05/04/2005 10:12:28 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe (Proud paid poster since 2003)

To: Netizen; texasflower

By the way, I told texasflower I would post the pic of BoCaine each time Scott's mug shot was posted. ;)

LOL!!!!!

5,826 posted on 05/04/2005 10:42:00 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (First you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women (HJ Simpson))

To: silent_jonny

Whew!! (wiping brow)

I thought Anthony sang better tonight than he did last night. The more I listen to him, the more I think he really has a voice worth developing ... though I still maintain it isn't "there" yet. The curse of the tenor: always late to develop! I hope he keeps actually working on his voice after this is over, rather than resting on his laurels and deciding he's already got a great voice. I heard some very nice "ringing" tones tonight that bode well for the future, if he keeps at it.

As for Scott, I have to say he behaved in a classy manner tonight. Good for him. I'm sorry if I have really offended anybody with my remarks about him. I was thinking where my dislike of him came from. It did not originate the first time I heard him sing. I listened to him, decided that he had some talent but that his voice was weak and he was relying too much on that showy "yodeling" that has come into vogue in the last 10 years or so. Then he opened his mouth to the judges, and I got a load of his attitude ... and that was it. I will accept attitude from someone who really IS tremendous and amazing (in whatever field) but it is just plain annoying in someone who is less than stellar in their field. I do hope, though, that he maintains his improvement in attitude, and continues to work on his voice while he works on his career.

As for the others, unless there is a major meltdown of some kind, I see Anthony or Vonzell leaving next week, and Carrie and Bo as the final two contestants. No idea who will win that showdown! Carrie is superior vocally, but Bo really owns the stage when he is on it. (I do wish he would occasionally put down the mike stand, though! :)

I have to disagree with those who said Vonzell was flat. There were a few notes here and there that were not spot-on, as well as one particularly memorable and ill-advised slide-up to a "big" note, but you haven't heard "flat" till you've listened to the HS freshman choir .... LOL! I like Vonzell a lot, but I think she fails to appeal broadly enough because she is just a tad ... well ... insipid, quite frankly! Carrie is also insipid, for my taste, but she is appealing to a different demographic that will put up with it.

Someone mentioned along the way that I must have studied some voice. I did, about 15 years' worth, and was deeply involved in theater and music for a while. I have great sympathy for Carrie, actually, since I suffered then from the same issue she has (as I see it, anyway): a very nice, well-trained voice, but a lack of stage presence and comfort in front of an audience. Hope she can loosen up and get past that!

Looking forward to next week!

5,827 posted on 05/04/2005 11:27:35 PM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert (http://sonoma-moderate.blogspot.com/)

5,828 posted on 05/05/2005 1:07:12 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)

To: silent_jonny

Vonzelle will probably be eliminated next week, whether she's great or not.

I'll go out on a limb and say that Bo gets tossed next week. I know he seems to have a big following on this thread, but 1) I'm tired of the same exact routine every week, 2) he's already done professional recording work, and I don't see much chance for significant improvement (and all of them need significant improvement to be stars), and 3) I'm seeing a trend now of getting rid of the older (28-29 year old) contestants.

5,829 posted on 05/05/2005 5:04:37 AM PDT by kevkrom (If people are free to do as they wish, they are almost certain not to do as Utopian planners wish)

To: Hetty_Fauxvert

I have to disagree with those who said Vonzell was flat.

Thank you... I don't feel so alone now... :)

5,830 posted on 05/05/2005 5:07:37 AM PDT by kevkrom (If people are free to do as they wish, they are almost certain not to do as Utopian planners wish)

To: Wolfstar; Palladin

On behalf of kevkrom, let me say that you're a killjoy, Palladin.

Seriously... let a guy dream, at least...

;)

5,831 posted on 05/05/2005 5:14:46 AM PDT by kevkrom (If people are free to do as they wish, they are almost certain not to do as Utopian planners wish)

As scandals go, I'd give this a 1 an 1/2 on a scale of ten.

Exactly. This "report" was just a hatchet job. I feel dirty for having watched it, but I'm glad I did. It shows how far ABC News has sunk.

5,832 posted on 05/05/2005 5:24:30 AM PDT by silent_jonny

5,833 posted on 05/05/2005 5:25:34 AM PDT by silent_jonny

I'll go out on a limb and say that Bo gets tossed next week

Wow that's a mighty long limb :) The females love Bo. I can't see them abandoning him--not enough to keep Vonzelle around.

5,834 posted on 05/05/2005 5:30:15 AM PDT by silent_jonny

To: silent_jonny

If I'm right, I look like a genius. If I'm wrong, it was just a joke. :)

5,835 posted on 05/05/2005 5:34:53 AM PDT by kevkrom (If people are free to do as they wish, they are almost certain not to do as Utopian planners wish)

To: Hetty_Fauxvert

Your take on Anthony is dead on. He's got talent but it's still at the emerging stages. Considering the fact that Doctors said he wouldn't be able to speak after his surgery, that's a pretty big overcoming!

A lot of the young girls and former "Constantinians" are now voting for him. I believe that many of Scott's "underdog" votes will go for him too.

Speaking of Scott...I've also "slammed" him a bit on this thread. I have a difference of opinion on his past charges from several other Freepers, but since that stuff was in the past, and he DID disclose it to the producers, I was willing to give him a pass on that stuff. But I think I agree with you on the attitude thing. Early on, I thought he was "average" but I liked him a bit. (The underdog factor I guess) But, after some thought, 2 things he did made me take a turn on him. First was when he was "difficult" with the "group" of guys and refused to rehearse with them. Second was his "tude" with the Judges after mediocre performances. Simon can be rough on people, but he is trying to give constructive criticism too.

I used to really like Vonzell up until she decided that she's the 2nd coming of Whitney Houston. She sang some good stuff early on, but her recent take to "over-sing" and "over-note" every song is like chalk on a blackboard. If she "keeps it simple" and "real" (as Randy would say), she could make the top 3 or even top 2.

Carrie and Bo are pretty much in a league of their own. Carrie's vocal talent is what keeps her in this thing. When she picks the right tunes (Heart's "Never" was her best), she owns the stage, without even needing to "perform."

Bo is the performer. He's had a lot more experience than the rest and it shows it. His voice is naturally pleasant to listen too and he knows his limits. He's not a great singer, but he knows how to use his voice and appeal.

It will be a tough finals if it comes down to Bo vs. Carrie, which I'm predicting that it will.

5,836 posted on 05/05/2005 7:58:47 AM PDT by TonyWpi ("There's nowhere to go but down!" - Monica Lewinski)

To: silent_jonny

I came across a photo of Corey Clark talking to Paula on the phone. I wonder if this is something that he's using as evidence?

"Paula, can you send some bail money or I'll tell them that you actually slept with me! Hello? Hello?"

5,837 posted on 05/05/2005 8:26:55 AM PDT by TonyWpi ("There's nowhere to go but down!" - Monica Lewinski)

I FINALLY LEARNED HOW TO POST A PICTURE! & I feel stupid cuz it was so easy. Thanks TF.

5,838 posted on 05/05/2005 9:04:20 AM PDT by gigi

LOL! Too funny, but a perfect pic. nonetheless. :)

5,839 posted on 05/05/2005 9:58:28 AM PDT by EmilyGeiger

To: silent_jonny

I bet that Vonzell goes before Anthony, who has quite a dedicated, young female fanbase.

I hope Bo comes out on top. But in this contest, nuthin's sure!

5,840 posted on 05/05/2005 3:49:00 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)

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