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'Enemies of Linux' try to undermine OS ~... executive tells ... of...disinformation
Vnunet.com ^ | Mar 08, 2005 | Robert Jaques, vnunet.com

Posted on 03/10/2005 9:38:47 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Senior OSDL executive tells vnunet.com of systematic campaign of disinformation

Robert Jaques, vnunet.com 08 Mar 2005

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So-called "enemies of Linux" are conducting a systematic campaign of disinformation which aims to undermine the enterprise credibility of the open source operating system, a senior executive from the Open Source Development Labs has told vnunet.com.

Nelson Pratt, marketing director of the pro-Linux organisation, which boasts Linus Torvalds among its top brass, said that unnamed vendors are trying to scare firms with a campaign claiming that Linux is inadequately supported for enterprise use.

However, Pratt argues that these charges simply do not hold up. "There are enemies of Linux that will introduce questions about the stability and ability of some companies to offer service and support, but there is the same quality of service and support available for Linux as there is for any big enterprise version of Unix," he said.

Linux is expected to become a $36bn business by 2008 and well over a quarter of all servers shipping are running the open source OS, according to Pratt.

"It's not surprising that the revenue is so great. More and more commercial organisations choose to buy Linux rather than download and deploy it independently," he said.

"They are increasingly treating the operating system as an enterprise product and engaging commercial firms of the calibre of Computer Associates, HP, IBM and Dell to support deployment."

Pratt also insists that the security of Linux

is perfectly adequate for enterprise use. "Linux is absolutely a secure operating system to the extent that it does not suffer any more or less than any other mature enterprise operating system. The 2.6 kernel is a key step forward in terms of boosting security and reliability," he said.

Specifically, Pratt disputed recent US research suggesting that measuring the time between security patches shows that Linux is less secure than Windows.

"Not every patch going into an operating system is in response to a security breach. Some enemies of Linux would say that the issue of patches shows how secure an OS is. I'm not calling out one vendor here, but it depends which side of their mouth they are talking out of," he said.

"They say that too many patches and we are not secure, or not enough patches and we are not addressing security well enough, but the arguments begin to sound specious."

Another allegation disputed by Pratt is that the distributed development processes of Linux make it impossible for any one firm to effectively take responsibility for the platform.

"It is nonsense to say that nobody owns Linux and nobody is responsible for it. Linux has a development process that is very similar to any enterprise operating system. It is not like we are talking tens of thousands of developers responsible for the kernel and subsystems," he said.

"Full time kernel core operating system developers number in the hundreds. There are very well defined professional processes in place for the development of the kernel and subsystems.

"Is there a kernel development community to fix problems fast and professionally? Yes, absolutely. There are requests for changes that come from mature enterprise users and these requests are taken very seriously, even if the enemies of Linux say differently."

Current market share figures detailing operating systems on shipped servers are potentially misleading, Pratt claimed. "It is not what has shipped. You need to look at redeployments when firms have taken a server and installed Linux onto it after purchase," he explained.

"The true installed base of Linux is being undercounted if all we do is look at the server shipments alone. We need to look at what companies actually do with the servers after they have purchased them."

To support these assertions, Pratt cited a recent poll of OSDL members which asked how many had purchased servers with an OS pre-loaded and then removed and replaced it with Linux. Virtually all of them claimed to have taken this action.

"However, going the other way was totally different. We asked how many had swapped out Linux and installed Windows and nobody had," said Pratt.

Linux is moving beyond its traditional role as just a web server platform, according to Pratt. "Look at Oracle and IBM. Oracle is using Linux as the OS for its grid. This shows that there is a solution stack on top of Linux that is not just Linux, Apache, MySQL and PHP/Perl, but a mixture of open source and proprietary software. ISVs such as Oracle, CA, SAP and IBM are fleshing out the Linux stack," he explained.

"As the big sophisticated software vendors start putting more and more deployments onto Linux, all the questions about Linux only being suitable as a web server go away."

Pratt was careful to emphasis that Linux is not a panacea and should only be deployed where it is appropriate.

"At OSDL we are trying not to be religious about Linux. We do not want to be evangelists about Linux where it is not practical to put Linux. For example, enterprise resource planning and data warehousing are on the horizon but there are not robust solutions yet," he said.

"We are not saying that all applications need to be Linux when the operating system is not ready for it. If there is a failure this could taint the feeling for Linux in general, so we say that the OS should only be used where it is appropriate."

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1 posted on 03/10/2005 9:38:48 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: ShadowAce

fyi


2 posted on 03/10/2005 9:39:24 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
When I saw this post, somehow I just knew it was you ... ernest.

Linux is expected to become a $36bn business by 2008 and well over a quarter of all servers shipping

Isn't this a bit optimistic?

3 posted on 03/10/2005 9:48:42 AM PST by usgator
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

"Enemies" of Linux? What a joke, LOL. Try US corporations defending themselves against foreign born clones of our UNIX software being pushed on us by socialists.


4 posted on 03/10/2005 10:01:18 AM PST by Golden Eagle (The IBM PC Company. Now owned and operated by the Chinese government.)
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To: rdb3; chance33_98; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Bush2000; PenguinWry; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; ...
How to fight the FUD
5 posted on 03/10/2005 10:02:24 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Where is the traditional Freeper Crybaby photo?


6 posted on 03/10/2005 10:04:39 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: usgator

That's including the hardware, pumped up by IBM mainframes, which may only be running Linux on one partition. And still overblown, just like supposed adoption rates have been for the last 5+ years.

To see what's really going on, look at the Linux vendors performance on Wall Street. Tumbling down, to less than half their value of a year ago. Here's one good example:

Novell stock slumps after restatement of revenue

http://yahoo.reuters.com/financeQuoteCompanyNewsArticle.jhtml?duid=mtfh43710_2005-02-28_16-00-38_n28257657_newsml

NEW YORK, Feb 28 (Reuters) - Shares of Novell Inc.(NOVL.O: Quote, Profile, Research) fell more than 5 percent on Monday to an 18-month low after the software maker reclassified its quarterly results to show lower revenue from new software licenses than previously stated.

"Subsequent to the issuance of our press release and the conference call announcing our results of operations for our first fiscal quarter 2005, it came to our attention that $6.1 million of Linux & platform services revenue reported as new software licenses should have been reported as maintenance and services," the company said in a regulatory filing.

As a result, Novell, a pioneer of networking software that has switched in the past year to become a distributor of Linux, posted net new software licenses revenue of $44.3 million, instead of the reported $50.4 million. There was no change to total revenue or net income in the first fiscal quarter 2005.


7 posted on 03/10/2005 10:08:17 AM PST by Golden Eagle (The IBM PC Company. Now owned and operated by the Chinese government.)
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To: usgator

8 posted on 03/10/2005 10:30:53 AM PST by Golden Eagle (The IBM PC Company. Now owned and operated by the Chinese government.)
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To: Golden Eagle
If this graph is true, this is a hell of a dip.  Any idea of the $$ sales represented here?
9 posted on 03/10/2005 10:44:52 AM PST by usgator
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To: Golden Eagle
"Enemies" of Linux

Oh come on, kinda over-dramatic!  Guess I didn't realize Ford is an "enemy" of GM.  Burger King is an "enemy" of McDonald's.

The are called competitors!

10 posted on 03/10/2005 10:47:45 AM PST by usgator
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To: usgator

Not really, could it be lower? of course. But with companies like Oracle, BEA, IBM, and Veritas making them the recommeded solution there will be a good deal of business going that way.


11 posted on 03/10/2005 11:14:06 AM PST by N3WBI3
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To: Golden Eagle

I'm curious, is your objection only to Linux, or is it to all open source software?


12 posted on 03/10/2005 11:16:48 AM PST by Jack of all Trades
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To: Golden Eagle
defending themselves against foreign born clones of our UNIX software being pushed on us by socialists.

Yes, we know your mantra. We that know IBM, HP and Oracle are socialist organizations bent on destroying American capitalism.

13 posted on 03/10/2005 11:18:17 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Golden Eagle
That's including the hardware, pumped up by IBM mainframes, which may only be running Linux on one partition.

Or running 40 LPARs with Linux. You'll never know.

To see what's really going on, look at the Linux vendors performance on Wall Street. Tumbling down,

If stock performance equalled sales, then Microsft's sales would be stagnant. Weren't the MS schills touting a Microsoft sales increase last year?

14 posted on 03/10/2005 11:21:34 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Golden Eagle; usgator
Gator, there are fan boys on all sides here and GE is most defiantly one of them. I could arguably be another but I dont have the hate and bile that some have which makes them omit things to make a point.

On novell, it has not been a great year, nor has it for Redhat, SUN, and even MS (down from 30 to 25 from November to now). Novell bought suse (and thus got into the Linux market) at less than 4 dollars a share, people overreacted and they went up way too high, its correcting (look at the 2 year picture).

Might Linux not make the numbers they say? could be, I dont have access to their research data and using stock prices to predict growth is about as accurate as throwing chicken bones.

15 posted on 03/10/2005 11:22:31 AM PST by N3WBI3
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To: usgator
Yea, it seems over dramatic, and in the business world it is. But here on FR we have people call Linux users commies..
16 posted on 03/10/2005 11:23:24 AM PST by N3WBI3
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To: N3WBI3
But here on FR we have people call Linux users commies..

You mean you guys are not? =)

17 posted on 03/10/2005 11:29:53 AM PST by usgator
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To: usgator

Depends on who you talk to. I have been called a commie here and a facist on slashdot.....


18 posted on 03/10/2005 11:31:52 AM PST by N3WBI3
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To: N3WBI3
Depends on who you talk to. I have been called a commie here and a facist on slashdot.....

A man without a country! It seems that having realistic views, no real platform loyalty, and not subscribing to a mantra ("MS can do no good!" vs "Linux is a commie plot!") gets me in trouble everywhere.

Luckily, my Slashdot karma is so high (it was maxed back when they still showed points) that I can say whatever I want. Screw the Linux fanatics and libs who'll mark me -1 because I said a nice thing about Microsoft, a bad thing about Linux, or something pro-Bush, pro-military or anti-environut. I can take the hit.

19 posted on 03/10/2005 11:43:14 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
It seems that having realistic views, no real platform loyalty, and not subscribing to a mantra

You don't belong here ... go away! =)

I said it before in FP, people act like Linux in a way-of-life or religion ... it's a freakin' Operating System!

20 posted on 03/10/2005 12:08:29 PM PST by usgator
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