[pissant]

Hmmmm. Methinks most gals are a combo of the good & the bad girl.

[MikefromOhio]

every chick has her good and bad side...it just depends on when you see each side and the situation....

[Jaysun]

I went for the good girl myself. Trust me, there's a headboard knocking vixen hidden in all of them.

[Professional Engineer]

madonna vs. whore

There's a difference?

[HuntsvilleTxVeteran]

A true lady takes off her dignity with her clothes and does her wh*rish best. At other times you can be as modest and dignified as your persona requires.

ROBERT HEINLEIN

[NRA2BFree]

While such women may exist naturally out there, it's more likely that, to achieve this ideal, you'll have to train a good girl to be bad (because there's no way a bad girl is going to be good).

That's not true. Sometimes we settle down. LOL

[Drew68]

Bad girls don't age well either. The fast living takes its toll quickly. The 21 year old hard-partying hottie from college tends to resemble forty at thirty. And plastic surgery only makes it worse. (When will women figure this one out?)

[yankeedame]

Well, when I was just a wee lass my mother solemnly told me that while boys have "fun" (nudge,nudge,wink,wink) with Democratic girls, they marry Republican girls.

[A CA Guy]

I would think a partner in life would be someone who is happy, nice,"good", intelligent, ethical, not too needy, spiritual, someone you are attracted to who turns you on, and comes with an adventurous and "playful" side.

I wouldn't want to be associated with someone who has been passed around like an after dinner mint. ("BAD") Too much disease, to little self worth displayed and probably a bad person to depend on for a family nest IMO.

[dog breath]

I would never begin to claim to be a expert, but I find that men who are fun bring out the fun in women. A man who is comfortable in himself finds pleasure in letting a woman be who she is, both good and bad.

[missyme]

And you would be correct in believing this. A man will dictate which side he gets from her...

[freedumb2003]

And the bad girls look like this when they still in their 20's:

[Poohbah]

Good girls go to heaven, bad girls go everywhere

[The Spirit Of Allegiance]

There's an old joke that goes: Good girls say, "No;" bad girls ask, "When?"

And in that old 'joke' is buried a deceptive premise, a LIE, that goes to the heart of male-female relationships: that ALL males pressure Good Girls to say yes--and that such is to be expected, even from a Godly man. HARDLY. WWJD? A worthy man, I contend, also knows he must defend a woman from his own urges--and her from hers.

We're told in Scripture that the woman is a "weaker vessel." That's NOT a put-down--that's a call to honor and defend. The male who is willing to bed a willing girl outside of marriage shows that his most profound DEFAULT is short-term gratification. His default YES puts the woman in charge of crucial aspects of the relationship. From my experience--few women truly want that; IIRC, it is James Dobson who refers to this creating a woman's distrust in a man's leadership.

Yes, I advocate and (sigh, at times reluctantly) am practicing virginity until marriage. I believe that's the way a man shows a woman respect--and shows himself respectable. I willingly trade short-term gratification for the benefits of abstinence, which include zero risk of communicable diseases, abortion/paternity/child support issues etc.

If a Song of Solomonic pun can be permitted, Virgins Unite! As God told Elisha in the cave after the victory over Jezebel's 400 prophets of Baal, "seven thousand haven't bent the knee." So I keep on looking for her, I know she's out there....

[HitmanLV]

Just as the 'nice guy/jerk' paradigm is needlessly limiting (as well as false) for many men, the 'madonna/whore' paradigm is needlessly limiting (as well as false) for women.

In both cases they tend to be used as excuses for underperformance, failure, or poor life-circumstance.

It's easier for men to say 'women don't like nice guys, they want jerks' and let themselves get consistently turned down.

It's easier for women to say 'men don't like good girls, they like sluts' and let themselves get consistently turned down.

In each case, the complainers add energy and life to the paradigm, and even though it isn't a legit way of looking at things, they breathe life into it to explain their situation (usually an unsatisfactory situation).

Each paradigm is silly - it is only true to the extent that a person buys into it. Indeed, whenever I read any kind of extended thoughts on these paradigms, I figure the person writing it has a very immature view of things.

And usually, I'm right.

[LiveBait]

This seems like a false dichotomy to me.

[BigSkyFreeper]

Best way to get an intelligent girl out of her clothes is, in the process of handing them a glass of wine, spill the glass in their lap.

Take it from an ooooooold pro. *wink wink*

[SunkenCiv]

I don't explain 'em...

Japan's success down to pubic hair...
Ananova | Sept 3, 2004
Posted on 09/03/2004 7:45:15 AM PDT by Area Freeper
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1206518/posts

Area Freeper is a suspended acc't, what a huge surprise. ;')