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Electric Arcs in Planetary Science
Thunderbolts Picture of the Day ^ | 3/7/2005

Posted on 03/07/2005 11:19:39 PM PST by Swordmaker

If you’ve been following our Picture of the Day, you’ve seen the electric arc on the upper left more than once on these pages. It comes to us from the website, “Sparks and Arcs,” sponsored by John Dyer--

http://www.johndyer.com/sparxarcs.html

We also include above a photograph of the comet Hale-Bopp, enhanced to emphasize the rich filamentation of the comet tail. Electric Universe theorists identify comets as plasma discharge phenomena—negatively charged objects moving rapidly through the electric field of the Sun.

Some advocates of the Electric Universe have devoted decades to investigating the human past, concluding that Earth’s environment was once bursting with electrical activity. They believe that just a few thousand years ago intense electrical events, associated with unstable planetary motions, provoked an outpouring of ancient myths and magical practices. These investigators hold that in ancient times stupendous cometary displays occurred. Dyer’s arc thus offers a useful analog to the ancient image of the comet-like star-goddess with fiery, serpentine, or wildly disheveled "hair”. The “long-haired star” or “mane star” was, in fact, the most common symbol of the comet in the ancient world. (We shall return to this subject soon.)

In previous TPOD’s we’ve noted the similarities between Dyer’s arc and scarring patterns on the planet Venus and on Saturn’s moon Enceladus. We do not believe the similarities are an accident. In the formative phases of our solar system, the surfaces of planets and moons were sculpted by global discharge events. One common pattern is the “Lichtenberg” form, which is the form of the arc shown above, when viewed on axis. See the Picture of the Day for February 16,2005  and for February 25, 2005—

http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2005/arch05/050216venusarc.htm

http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2005/arch05/050225enceladus.htm

In periods of instability and upheaval, planets and moons were subjected to intense electrical arcing. Though this idea is certainly “off the map” of conventional theory, plasma cosmologists, together with growing numbers of “Electric Universe” advocates, argue that the actual history of the solar system does not resemble the popular textbook summary. Stars and planets are born in electrical events more powerful than anything gravity alone can create. As Hannes Alfvén, the father of plasma cosmology, stated to his colleagues: our local gravitational system is the “ashes” of a prior electrical system.

The point is well illustrated by the close-up photo of the stupendous “volcano” Olympus Mons on Mars. In the electric model, Olympus Mons and other giant mounds on the Tharsis bulge are discharge “blisters” typical of those created by an electric discharge on a positively charged surface, or anode. 

The picture suggests an extended event on Mars in which electrons streamed in to the top of a huge mound that had been raised from the surface by the electric force. As the discharge event excavated a series of flat-bottomed craters on the summit, the summit became a regional focal point of negative charge within a larger positively charged surface.

To achieve surface equilibrium, then, secondary discharging occurred between the "cauldron" of Olympus Mons and the surrounding region in a way analogous to the discharge of a negatively charged comet nucleus as it enters the positive region of the Sun's electric field. Thus, the finely filamented radiating "mane" is comparable to what we would see if we looked up the axis of John Dyer's lab discharge or the Hale-Bopp discharge shown above. Significantly, a virtually identical finely filamented mane is seen at the summit of Ascraeus Mons in the same region of Mars. In an electrical interpretation, charge redistribution will account for a repeated feature that otherwise has no coherent explanation.


TOPICS: Arts/Photography; Astronomy; Education; Science
KEYWORDS: catasrophism; electricuniverse; plasma

Credit: Upper left: Inset: laboratory arc, courtesy of John Dyer; lower left: http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/comet/puckett4.html;

1 posted on 03/07/2005 11:19:40 PM PST by Swordmaker
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To: blam; SunkenCiv

Electric Universe PING

Very interesting...


2 posted on 03/07/2005 11:24:25 PM PST by Swordmaker (Tagline now open, please ring bell.)
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To: Swordmaker

Trippy.


3 posted on 03/07/2005 11:28:24 PM PST by mercy
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To: Swordmaker

See more at John Dyer's Jack SparX Tesla Coil site

Really cool guy...

4 posted on 03/07/2005 11:30:35 PM PST by Swordmaker (Tagline now open, please ring bell.)
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To: Swordmaker

Heeeey, thanks for the ping. Nice.


5 posted on 03/08/2005 11:48:43 AM PST by SunkenCiv (last updated my FreeRepublic profile on Sunday, February 20, 2005.)
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To: 75thOVI; AndrewC; Avoiding_Sulla; BenLurkin; Berosus; CGVet58; chilepepper; ckilmer; Eastbound; ...
Ping!
6 posted on 03/23/2005 11:21:11 PM PST by SunkenCiv (last updated my FreeRepublic profile on Sunday, March 13, 2005.)
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Gamma rays from thunderstorms?
May 03, 2005
http://www.physorg.com/news3959.html

"Duke University engineers have led the most detailed analyses of links between some lightning events and mysterious gamma ray emissions that emanate from earth's own atmosphere. Their study suggests that this gamma radiation fountains upward from starting points surprisingly low in thunderclouds. Counter-intuitively, these strong gamma outbursts also seem to precede associated lightning discharges by a split second."


7 posted on 05/03/2005 10:26:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FR profiled updated Monday, April 11, 2005. Fewer graphics, faster loading.)
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To: SunkenCiv
"Duke University engineers have led the most detailed analyses of links between some lightning events and mysterious gamma ray emissions that emanate from earth's own atmosphere. Their study suggests that this gamma radiation fountains upward from starting points surprisingly low in thunderclouds. Counter-intuitively, these strong gamma outbursts also seem to precede associated lightning discharges by a split second."

Interesting article. Also I find "sferics" fascinating, basically, it is listening to radio waves in the longwave band (below 520 kc on the AM dial) and below where you hear distant lightning stokes and so on. When you get to the really low frequencies like around 15 kc or so, you can hear lots of weird things like whistles, pops and others from charged particles acting with the Earth's magnetic field, the auroras and so on. Back in the 1980's, I heard one of my fellow ham radio operators constructed a "growler" (sometimes you can hear growls too) by wrapping a wire several times around his room and hooked it into the input of an audio amplfier and heard the whistles, pops, and the growling noises from the "sferics." Sounds like I can put my all vacuum tube (1964) Sherwood amp to use. Back in the late 1940's, there was a radio made with a meter that would show how far lighnting strikes were away from the location and in an old 1963/64 QST Magazine (amateur radio), there are plans for using an oscilliscope to receive, plot and determine distances of lightning strikes.
8 posted on 05/03/2005 10:55:20 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Lutheran, Conservative, Neo-Victorian/Edwardian, Michael Savage in '08! - Any Questions?)
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To: Nowhere Man

Thanks, interesting reply.


9 posted on 05/06/2005 12:08:19 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FR profiled updated Monday, April 11, 2005. Fewer graphics, faster loading.)
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Red Planet's Ancient Equator Located
Scientific American (online) | April 20, 2005 | Sarah Graham
Posted on 04/24/2005 8:18:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1390424/posts


10 posted on 07/23/2005 8:04:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Tuesday, May 10, 2005.)
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To: Swordmaker
Just a little bump, trying out a logo:
Catastrophism

11 posted on 03/26/2006 8:20:08 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Yes indeed, Civ updated his profile and links pages again, on Monday, March 6, 2006.)
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To: Swordmaker; NormsRevenge; Fred Nerks; SunkenCiv

Fascinating!


12 posted on 04/28/2009 12:13:24 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

:’) Definitely.


13 posted on 04/28/2009 12:21:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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