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The Hobbit Hole XX - And take the hidden paths that run...
The Freeper Hobbit Hole ^

Posted on 03/05/2005 11:51:13 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

And take the hidden paths that run...

New verse:

Upon the hearth the fire is red,
Beneath the roof there is a bed;
But not yet weary are our feet,
Still round the corner we may meet
A sudden tree or standing stone
That none have seen but we alone.
Tree and flower and leaf and grass,
Let them pass! Let them pass!
Hill and water under sky,
Pass them by! Pass them by!

Still round the corner there may wait
A new road or a secret gate,
And though we pass them by today,
Tomorrow we may come this way
And take the hidden paths that run
Towards the Moon or to the Sun.
Apple, thorn, and nut and sloe,
Let them go! Let them go!
Sand and stone and pool and dell,
Fare you well! Fare you well!

Home is behind, the world ahead,
And there are many paths to tread
Through shadows to the edge of night,
Until the stars are all alight.
Then world behind and home ahead,
We’ll wander back to home and bed.
Mist and twilight, cloud and shade,
Away shall fade! Away shall fade!
Fire and lamp, and meat and bread,
And then to bed! And then to bed!

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To: JenB

Why do you need the A?


6,681 posted on 04/18/2005 8:09:20 PM PDT by Ramius (Hmmm... yeah, that'd be great...)
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To: Ramius

Because in grad school, B is D and anything lower is F. If I don't keep my GPA above 3.0, I lose my funding. If I don't keep it above 3.3, I don't get fellowships - which I really need. And in this case because it's really bad form to look like a slacker in front of your advisor. At least in the first semester of the relationship.

We're all chronically worried about grades but... I really am struggling...


6,682 posted on 04/18/2005 8:11:02 PM PDT by JenB
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To: g'nad

Evening g'nad - sounds like a fine hunt; looks like you'll just ~ have ~ to again tomorrow. :-)


6,683 posted on 04/18/2005 8:14:24 PM PDT by osagebowman
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To: Corin Stormhands

Evening Corin, dang, we were hoping you could make it shoot moot.

The rotation seems 'bout right. East, West, Mid West. next Mid East? Nah, East sounds better.

Rafting in 08, hmm. I'll be 60 or thereabouts, think they have a 'geezer' rate?


6,684 posted on 04/18/2005 8:19:20 PM PDT by osagebowman
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To: Corin Stormhands

Your co-worker is absolutely wrong. Catholics believe that the bread and wine are transformed into the Body and Blood of Christ during the consecration...which means people shouldn't take communion unless they are Catholics in good standing - hence all the fuss among Catholics about Kerry recieving communion when he obviously doesn't agree with most of what the Church teaches.

To us, it's far more than just sharing a meal. You did fine. :-)


6,685 posted on 04/18/2005 8:21:21 PM PDT by RosieCotton (Pray, hope, and don't worry. - St. Pio)
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To: JenB

Well, hang in there... can you maybe get some extra credit for something?

I'm just sayin'.... the GPA means the most while you're in school. Afterwards, it won't count so much. Of anybody hired in my group I don't think college GPA ever came up once.

Hell... my undergrad GPA was in the toilet. The only reason I got into grad school was that I had a really lucky day on my GMAT test. Funny... cuz I somehow carried about a 3.8 in grad skool. But then dropped out.

[sigh]

Well... hang in there... :-)


6,686 posted on 04/18/2005 8:22:45 PM PDT by Ramius (Hmmm... yeah, that'd be great...)
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To: JenB

Whoo-hoo, I'm an idiot. One assignment was worth 30 points, not 50, so I got 82% not 50%. That means I might be getting a B right now. Takes some pressure off.

Nothing like standing in the shower hoping you're an idiot.


6,687 posted on 04/18/2005 8:24:05 PM PDT by JenB
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To: Ramius

Heh. Thanks. It does matter if I'm going to stay in for the long haul (Dr. JenB?) but in the real world... of course, dropping out now is bad. Quitting a year from now with a master's degree, that's not failure.


6,688 posted on 04/18/2005 8:25:14 PM PDT by JenB
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To: Lil'freeper; ExGeeEye; JenB; Alkhin; Corin Stormhands; Overtaxed; 2Jedismom; HairOfTheDog; ...
Evening, folks!

Well, the wedding went very well! No major mishaps other than one song being sung at the wrong time during the service, but it was livable. And the reception was pretty low key - the bride's family is HUGE and mostly from around the area (and incredibly wonderful folks they are, too!), so they mostly potlucked the meal, and the wimminfolk did all the decorating the night before.

It turned out to be a VERY good thing that Jen coerced me into bringing my laptop. Several of my siblings were SUPPOSED to come up with a bunch of CDs to play at the reception and figure out a sound system (the hall had a PA, but not a CD player), but they put it off until the last second and only had a CD with about thirty minutes of music. Not good. Luckily I had a) my laptop, and b) a wireless card, so they were able to get pretty much everything they needed either off of CDs or off iTunes or some such. They still didn't find a few songs my brother had wanted, but I think anyone who didn't know the exact list would never have noticed. We got the cables to hook my laptop into the PA, and that was our entire sound system / DJ / jukebox arrangement. It worked very well! As a bonus, I ended up with a bunch of new music...

The bride and groom are driving across country for their honeymoon, and may be going along partially the same route I took - except that they have more time (being sans cats, for one) to get out and check things along the way. I told 'em I'd buy 'em dinner if they stop here!

Job search continues in earnest now. On the positive side, I had a kinda sorta preliminary interview by phone this morning. Not sure it's what I really wanna do, but at least it means someone's sort of interested. It's a contract position with a company that works with the gubmint. Dunno much more than that, except that it requires a background check, but considering I held a basic security clearance, that's already mostly done, which may be why they were interested. In any case, I may hear back from them soon. Otherwise, I'll just keep sending the ol' resume out.
6,689 posted on 04/18/2005 8:32:48 PM PDT by RosieCotton (Pray, hope, and don't worry. - St. Pio)
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To: JenB

The Doctorate is a good thing, but I would stress that it is ~only~ worthwhile with some years of experience behind it, and it puts you in a very narrow set of job prospects. The MS will narrow the job set quite enough, and it may be annoying to hear, but you will need to play up the experience you have more than the MS.

Those years of doing general helpdesk support will be *invaluable* on your resume. It shows a service attitude, enthusiasm for 'puters, and exposure to the worst parts of the user community.

The way I look at it... if you can work a helpdesk for a few years and not ~actually~ kill any users... you're a team player. :-)


6,690 posted on 04/18/2005 8:40:26 PM PDT by Ramius (Hmmm... yeah, that'd be great...)
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To: RosieCotton

Secrit Gubmit job? Must be out at Rocky Flats, huh? :-)


6,691 posted on 04/18/2005 8:43:54 PM PDT by Ramius (Hmmm... yeah, that'd be great...)
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To: Ramius

I have no idea! It'd be cool if it involved blowing things up...but I seriesly doubt it's anything more involved than, say...supporting the DMV. *shudder*

I guess I'll know more if and when I have a real interview.


6,692 posted on 04/18/2005 8:47:35 PM PDT by RosieCotton (Pray, hope, and don't worry. - St. Pio)
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To: Ramius

I'm not quite a helpdesk person - I do some helpdesky functions, some sys admin functions, a little gruntwork and some computer repair/restore. I love it. My friends the teaching assistants are getting a leg up on their future professorships, if they get them, but...

I think I probably am destined for a real world job, if I don't drop out to become a wife/mother first. That's one reason I'm studying what I am instead of AI, because the AI weenies never get the jobs we software engineering folks do. (Also because AI is boring compared to the glories of real code).

I'm just not sure yet, but I might want to do research, and that would take a Ph.D. And a better school than I'm at, probably. Sigh.


6,693 posted on 04/18/2005 8:49:35 PM PDT by JenB
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To: RosieCotton

I only say that 'cuz I know that the Rocky Flats facility is sorta nearby, and I've visited there. Da Company has had a very long-term project there, studying the "Prebbles Mouse".

Apparently Prebbles Mouses are cuter and therefore more valuable than other mouses. Da Company has been contracted on a multi-year project to study the various social and [ahem] other practices of said mouses, part of which is to determine whether, in fact, said mouses are at all bothered by the fact that they live in close proximity to facilities that store massive stockpiles of weapons and whether this causes the mouses any undue stress.

Should the mouses instead join in anti-war demonstrations? This and more, the study hopes to show.

Whether anti-war demonstrations would in fact cause even higher levels of stress in these cute little Prebbles Mouses does not appear to be part of the experimental protocol.

But I'm relatively sure that the testing of mouse brain chemistry, involving several hundred mouse heads and an off-the-shelf Cuisinart blender... does fewer favors for the little dudes than does the vast rangeland occupied by the occasional munition depot.

Or not. Maybe its just me.


6,694 posted on 04/18/2005 9:05:47 PM PDT by Ramius (Hmmm... yeah, that'd be great...)
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To: Corin Stormhands
My Catholic co-worker beside me said the Priest ~should have~ invited everyone to partake in communion. He did not. I know some non-Catholics did partake but most didn't. Was my friend wrong?

Yes, your friend was wrong. A Mass held at a Funeral or Wedding, or any other ceremony is still a Mass, and the rules don't change.

My brother-in-law, who is a priest, always talks to the congregation just before Communion at Masses at which there are likely to be non-Catholics. He explains it this way. I'm paraphrasing, but it's essentially this. "Sadly, we Christians are divided. Until the Lord comes again, we may remain so. For Catholics, receiving Holy Communion is a statement of Faith and acceptance of the Church's teachings. For those who do not share these beliefs, you are welcome to come forward if you wish to receive a Blessing. When you come to the front of the line, cross your arms in front of you, so that we'll know you don't wish to receive Communion." Then he continues with the Mass.

He has been doing this for awhile, but he felt it was very important while he had a Life Teen group going in his Parish. There were teenagers coming with their friends who were not Catholic, and my b-i-l didn't want to even create the appearance of trying to proselytize the non-Catholic kids. He only wanted to proselytize the Catholic ones. ;o)

Some think that not allowing non-Catholics to receive Holy Communion is punitive to those who cannot receive. I believe it is truly a statement of Faith, so I would think that, since non-Catholics do not believe, they would not want to make that statement.

6,695 posted on 04/18/2005 9:10:44 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Corin Stormhands
She was 48.

God Bless her and her family. I'm glad the Mass was a comfort to her family and friends.

6,696 posted on 04/18/2005 9:13:09 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Sam Cree
Knocking them down from a moving boat ought to be a challenge.

Shooting fish out of the air? How cool!

6,697 posted on 04/18/2005 9:18:45 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ

I would never think of trying to recieve Communion in a Catholic church, and I don't know any of my Catholic friends who'd try to recieve at my church (except one very confused girl who can't decide if she's Catholic or lib-Presby, but is really not anything). It's not about being rude or not, it's the fact that we don't agree on what it means!


6,698 posted on 04/18/2005 9:20:26 PM PDT by JenB
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To: Sam Cree

Wow! Your daughter is graduating already? Congratulations to her and you!


6,699 posted on 04/18/2005 9:25:36 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ

Well said...

I might try to expand on it in this way: Since there is some division in this world on the precise meaning of communion, and since we should not cause our brother to stumble, we should respect our brother's ritual as they see fit.

I have and would take communion in my own church, or one which treats communion in a similar way. I certainly would not take communion in a Catholic church, not so much because I would think it was wrong for me to do, but because by doing so I might be causing my brother to stumble.

It would be a problem for *them*, not so much a problem for me, and this is why it would be wrong to put them in that position.


6,700 posted on 04/18/2005 9:29:02 PM PDT by Ramius (Hmmm... yeah, that'd be great...)
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