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Poor kitty.
Posted on 02/19/2005 11:58:48 AM PST by chaco canyon
Religuous people are good people that are being led astray. They are systematically being manipulated to remove the power that they have to use their potent brains. It is easy to believe someone who says he has an alluring answer, an answer that cannot be logically disputed. The fundamental mechanics of religion are the same as a virus. It attacks those that are mentally weakened, and when they are young and suscepable to the concept of magic.
Understanding of the beautiful complexity of the world is opening up to individuals that grasp the complex concepts. The universe seems to be alive and intelligent to those that do not have a closed mind. Religious dogma's do not approach this level of understanding. We live in a remarkable time, where so much is being learned so quickly, we do not yet have time to take it all in, to synthesize this. The vast majority of human problems are caused by human thinking. The religous order hamper human exploration, becuase they believe that they have answers. The intelligent universe seems to be telling us to live sustainably and to grow mentally to become more like what we seek. This is counter to most religous organizations.
WE must recognize that ancient knowledge is incomplete and often incorrect. The world is dynamic and these variations must be taken to account to adapt our moral code to survive and grow. We cannot afford to revel in ignorance forever. The limits of ancient knowledge are met at Armaggedon.
Evil MEN praise God to gain power. Hitler was a friend of the Pope and a good catholic. He called on God often for help. Terrorism is viable in a religous context, because people believe in what will happen when they die. Religion has always been used to manipulate the masses, the dark ages can return and get even DARKER.
Faith eventually destroys good will between men, because faith give all men the idea that they have their private truth. But there is only one truth in the world. When there are differences between religions, they should be resolved. People working together to find THE truth, not advocating their private truth. Fighting over differences means that the understanding of truth is limited. Fighting will not find truth. Only an open mind can find truth. The most savage places on earth are the most religous. Puritanism kills. We are not becoming a kinder nation.
There is a Mathematical principle call Godels theorem. It says that all systems, no matter how perfect are incomplete. These create paradoxes (religious differences). Paradoxes, are not something to fight over. They are GATEWAYS to a greater system, to a more complete truth. I call this the Mathematics of Peace. There are many advances that we are not utilizing for the social good. We are rehashing ancient failures, each time they are becoming more deadly and heinous as we become more powerful. The religous system creates good and evil and conflict. Signicantly different paradigms are available to people willing to think. Good and evil, heaven and hell are primitive that are keeping us in a prison. We are reaching the time when there are too many people in the world to survive with this type of thinking. Free your mind. Do kind compassionate things without the need for a reward for heaven. Try to understand the how the universe works, and work in sync with it. It is understandable and useful for peace and growth.
I was thinking of your life, Mo; VI's, baking disasters, flaming grills, faulty plumbing, late night deck building, school plays, misadventures with in-laws, FReeping FRenzies, etc. Go take a nap, will ya?
that is one of the coolest caat pics I've ever seen! I can almost hear him chuckling!
Exactly correct. Although issued by Pius XI, the encylical was written by Cardinal Pacelli (Pius XII). I never even thought to bring "Mit brennender Sorge" up. Thanks.
Humblegunner showed me that image.
So I stole it.
;-)
I can hear him chuckling as well, but I didn't have a suitable laugh wav file.
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Poor kitty.
Is it simple enough for you to explain that biological perspective to me.
Thanks!
Welcome to FR.
Could you please give us chapter and verse from whatever "religion manifesto" you're referencing?
Welcome, newbie. :-)
some moral foundations are causing conflict in the world and lead to decline of the human population. People forget that there are way too many people in this world, from a simple biological perspective. We dont know have room or the resources to behave as we once did.
Are you saying you want more conflict?
"Gullible means that you believe things too easily, it seems to me that there are plenty of Christians out there that stick to their beliefs stalwartly, oh... right, that's what Christianity is based on! "
Careful there, if you're trying to be clever in your bashing of religion while in the religion forum, it will cost you double.
Did you intend to address your post to chaco canyon? The authour of the idiot screed?
If you take an empirical definition of “religion”, what you are espousing is a religious belief system. We, as humans, HAVE to have some link of a philosophical belief system to function in this world. We have to have some handle on life that we can hold, manipulate, and use. The “moral relativists” of the world absolutely have to have no absolutes for their belief system to exist – and therefore for THEM to exist they have created their own dogma (likewise - liberalism, eco-fascism, the PC crowd, et al….).
So, it seems you do not like to have your “faith” exposed to the world. Because with each hit, each chink in the armor, it becomes evident that to “keep the faith” you must totally disavow the existence of any other rational belief system (because that would mean that there is something else valid or is THE only valid belief system and therefore you would be absolutely wrong) or you can be open to learning and accept the fact that you don’t know it all and in reality never ever will, but people like their castles and will defend the faith at all cost. Because, if our faith is subject to examination and scrutiny and comes up lacking in some points of belief, then our faith can be invalid for the purposes of “salvation” and we will be subject to the consequences. (utter loss of pride for you and hell for us.)
I just pity your lack of depth in this matter. My question is, “What is your pay-off?” When all is said and done, “What did you hope to accomplish? Did you really come here to learn something and therefore expand the possibility that there is a reality that you know nothing of?”
Go find your tinker toys and build that castle – because you don’t know that you don’t know.
Cheers to all,
tpm
The population growth of any species is regulated by a few principles, repoductive rates, available resources - food, water, etc. The population dynamics of a species can be mathematically described by a simple first-order exponential growth equation. Species grow faster and faster until they hit their resource limit. Then they crash. Interestingly enough, the human population is still on the population growth formula that is the same as any other species. So despite all our insight we are still growing like bacteria, moles, fish, etc. Now back in ancient times, this was not a bad thing. But its pretty obvious that we are hitting a number of resource limits. A human population crash is not an unreasonable thing to expect. If human behavior could change to limit its growth, it mite allow us to survive a little longer.
I think your mind and thought process is either immature, or cluttered with a bunch of public school/college garbage that has caused conflicts.
Don't mistake the conflict with a suspicion that what you were taught was wrong or incomplete and that you were used to push a agenda. The agenda of the leftist academic.
They know your head is full of mush, and they fill the vacuum with ideas and explanations that justify the idea that the human race is akin to a virus that infects the mother earth. A disease.
We are imperfect, but we grow and learn. We are not heading off a cliff like lemmings, not are we so set in our ways that we fail to change.
We are dynamic, we are resilient, and will one day populate other parts of the known universe. It is in our genes.
We will take our human inconsistencies with us, as well as our religions.
You think your mind is free, but you are like a hard drive that has lost it's directory.
To this I say, "Git-er-Done!, "free your mind and your butt will follow", Just put two and two together and come up with the mathematical answer that we are not monolithic, our past is filled with times where one wrong decision would have killed us all. We are in that state almost continuously.
Somehow, we get it right. We give that credit to God,because it can only be Him that could guide us in our struggle. He has always been there.
How else could we possibly explain it?
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