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Mac OS X security myth exposed
Techworld ^ | 24 June 2004 | Matthew Broersma, Techworld

Posted on 01/16/2005 12:04:57 PM PST by Bush2000


24 June 2004
Mac OS X security myth exposed
And thousands of other products and OSes given security rundown.

By Matthew Broersma, Techworld

Windows is more secure than you think, and Mac OS X is worse than you ever imagined. That is according to statistics published for the first time this week by Danish security firm Secunia.

The stats, based on a database of security advisories for more than 3,500 products during 2003 and 2004 sheds light on the real security of enterprise applications and operating systems, according to the firm. Each product is broken down into pie charts demonstrating how many, what type and how significant security holes have been in each.

One thing the hard figures have shown is that OS X's reputation as a relatively secure operating system is unwarranted, Secunia said. This year and last year Secunia tallied 36 advisories on security issues with the software, many of them allowing attackers to remotely take over the system - comparable to figures on operating systems such as Windows XP Professional and Red Hat Enterprise Server.

"Secunia is now displaying security statistics that will open many eyes, and for some it might be very disturbing news," said Secunia chief executive Niels Henrik Rasmussen. "The myth that Mac OS X is secure, for example, has been exposed."

Its new service, easily acessible on its website, allows enterprises to gather exact information on specific products, by collating advisories from a large number of third-party security firms. A few other organisations maintain comparable lists, including the Open Source Vulnerability Database (OSVDB) and the Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures (CVE) database, which provides common names for publicly known vulnerabilities.

Secunia said the new service could help companies keep an eye on the overall security of particular software - something that is often lost in the flood of advisories and the attendant hype. "Seen over a long period of time,the statistics may indicate whether a vendor has improved the quality of their products," said Secunia CTO Thomas Kristensen. He said the data could help IT managers get an idea of what kind of vulnerabilities are being found in their products, and prioritise what they respond to.

For example, Windows security holes generally receive a lot of press because of the software's popularity, but the statistics show that Windows isn't the subject of significantly more advisories than other operating systems. Windows XP Professional saw 46 advisories in 2003-2004, with 48 percent of vulnerabilities allowing remote attacks and 46 percent enabling system access, Secunia said.

Suse Linux Enterprise Server (SLES) 8 had 48 advisories in the same period, with 58 percent of the holes exploitable remotely and 37 percent enabling system access. Red Hat's Advanced Server 3 had 50 advisories in the same period - despite the fact that counting only began in November of last year. Sixty-six percent of the vulnerabilities were remotely exploitable, with 25 granting system access.

Mac OS X doesn't stand out as particularly more secure than the competition, according to Secunia. Of the 36 advisories issued in 2003-2004, 61 percent could be exploited across the Internet and 32 percent enabled attackers to take over the system. The proportion of critical bugs was also comparable with other software: 33 percent of the OS X vulnerabilities were "highly" or "extremely" critical by Secunia's reckoning, compared with 30 percent for XP Professional and 27 percent for SLES 8 and just 12 percent for Advanced Server 3. OS X had the highest proportion of "extremely critical" bugs at 19 percent.

As for the old guard, Sun's Solaris 9 saw its share of problems, with 60 advisories in 2003-2004, 20 percent of which were "highly" or "extremely" critical, Secunia said.

Comparing product security is notoriously difficult, and has become a contentious issue recently with vendors using security as a selling point. A recent Forrester study comparing Windows and Linux vendor response times on security flaws was heavily criticised for its conclusion that Linux vendors took longer to release patches. Linux vendors attach more weight to more critical flaws, leaving unimportant bugs for later patching, something the study failed to factor in, according to Linux companies. Vendors also took issue with the study's method of ranking "critical" security bugs, which didn't agree with the vendors' own criteria.

Secunia agreed that straightforward comparisons aren't possible, partly because some products receive more scrutiny than others. Microsoft products are researched more because of their wide use, while open-source products are easier to analyse because researchers have general access to the source code, Kristensen said.

"A third factor is that Linux / Unix people are very concerned about privilege escalation vulnerabilities, while Windows people in general are not, especially because of the shatter-like attacks which have been known for six years or more," he said. "A product is not necessarily more secure because fewer vulnerabilities are discovered."


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To: Doohickey
Mac users generally don't know or care how thier computer works, but they are also less likely to do things that make their systems less secure.

In my experience, Windows users are generally more ignorant about their computers than Mac users.

I've also observed that when Windows users switch to Macs, they suddenly find their computer experiences to be more useful and enjoyable.

21 posted on 01/16/2005 1:39:36 PM PST by HAL9000 (Spreading terrorist beheading propaganda videos is an Act of Treason!)
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To: Squantos
I have never used Mac so can't say pro or con whats best.

My advice is to get the superior weapon - the Mac.

22 posted on 01/16/2005 1:40:52 PM PST by HAL9000 (Spreading terrorist beheading propaganda videos is an Act of Treason!)
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To: Squantos

The service pack ruined my laptop. Every other day I have to go through the blue screen of death ritual. I just bought an Apple ibook which is very entry level. I pay attention to these threads even with the flame wars so I can learn. Sure is entertaining though
;-)


23 posted on 01/16/2005 1:42:05 PM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: HAL9000
Windows users are generally more ignorant about their computers than Mac users.

I agree with you. Did you read this part of my reply?

Many Windows users shouldn't even be allowed to own computers. They are clueless to the point of being dangerous.

I don't have any personal experience in regard to your second paragraph, but it would serve to support my contention.

24 posted on 01/16/2005 1:44:21 PM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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To: HAL9000

I ordered an ibook last week. I've never had problems with windows before BUT I regret the living day I allowed the SP2 to enter my laptop.


25 posted on 01/16/2005 1:46:12 PM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: cyborg

The only reason I don't own a Mac is because it requires proprietary hardware. I can run Windows or Linux on pretty much any hardware I want.


26 posted on 01/16/2005 1:47:08 PM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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To: cyborg

That's a shame. I wish I could help troubleshoot that for you. I've installed SP-2 on both my home laptops and one of my work PCs without any issues thus far.


27 posted on 01/16/2005 1:48:12 PM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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To: Doohickey

This Dell laptop I bought gives me hell to no end. It's a piece of cheap crap. My sister has a top shelf Dell laptop and no problems whatsoever. Friends don't let friends buy celeron powered laptops *lol*


28 posted on 01/16/2005 1:51:01 PM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: cyborg; HAL9000

Mine used to get slow also at times so I made a custom restore disc and just wipe the drive every once in a while as part of my up keep. I've too much into my laptops and desktop system to just drop dimes and switch to a MAC right now.


29 posted on 01/16/2005 1:55:49 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: cyborg

If you don't mind, what model is it? This laptop is an 8600, the other is a 5100.


30 posted on 01/16/2005 1:59:09 PM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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To: Squantos

I don't have my work and home life fully involved yet. I decided I'd give mac a try before shelling out money for a new desktop system.


31 posted on 01/16/2005 1:59:47 PM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: Doohickey

I'd have to look when I get home. I bought it in 2003. Aside from frequent crashes, the battery discharges in thirty minutes when it's supposed to last four hours.


32 posted on 01/16/2005 2:02:33 PM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: Bush2000

gee. What a surprise


33 posted on 01/16/2005 2:05:50 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("War is an ugly thing, but...the decayed feeling...which thinks nothing worth war, is worse." -Mill)
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To: Bush2000

bump this sucker again for the MAcers to see.


34 posted on 01/16/2005 2:06:05 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("War is an ugly thing, but...the decayed feeling...which thinks nothing worth war, is worse." -Mill)
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To: cyborg

I assemble/build/mod my own desktops. I haven't seen much of such possibilities with MAC so being more flight simulator, data collection and research I stay with what I have that works. Keep me posted on yer new powerbook. I have seen em and they appear to be high speed low drag....if not down right sexy !

Enjoy !..........:o)


35 posted on 01/16/2005 2:06:41 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Vermonter

"OS X had the highest proportion of "extremely critical" bugs at 19 percent."


36 posted on 01/16/2005 2:07:34 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("War is an ugly thing, but...the decayed feeling...which thinks nothing worth war, is worse." -Mill)
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To: solitas

"OS X had the highest proportion of "extremely critical" bugs at 19 percent."


37 posted on 01/16/2005 2:07:52 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("War is an ugly thing, but...the decayed feeling...which thinks nothing worth war, is worse." -Mill)
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To: Doohickey
Many Windows users shouldn't even be allowed to own computers. They are clueless to the point of being dangerous.

That follows from having near total desktop market share.
38 posted on 01/16/2005 2:08:14 PM PST by Bush2000
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To: rwfromkansas

bump


39 posted on 01/16/2005 2:08:45 PM PST by Bush2000
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To: HAL9000

Why spend time making viruses for an OS that is effectively computer training wheels nobody buys?


40 posted on 01/16/2005 2:09:26 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("War is an ugly thing, but...the decayed feeling...which thinks nothing worth war, is worse." -Mill)
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