[Bluegrass Conservative]

Lincoln's focus was obviously on the union, not slavery.

This is completely true and nice to see someone finally point it out. At the same time, I believe we may have glorified the Confederacy a bit too much. While I realize that they were good people and most of their motives were pure, the simple fact is that they took up arms against their government. Last I knew, that is considered treason. The Confederate veterans have been treated throughout history much better than most guilty of treason could ever hope for.

[Non-Sequitur]

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[pikachu]

I remember in Boston talking to ralatives (who were aghast I was living in Texas) about the Civil War. They reminded me that the Underground Railway spirited salves to "The North". They were a little upset when I pointed out to them that "The North" was not the Union states but Canada. They also didn't like the fact that the first slaves sold in the Colonies were in Massachusetts. Nor did they like to remmeber that the triangle trade that made Boston very rich included bringing molasses to Boston to be made into rum which was taken to Africa to be traded for slaves.

There is more than enough 'conveient memories' on both sides.

[Rodney King]

the simple fact is that they took up arms against their government. Last I knew, that is considered treason

Well, for one thing taking up arms against the government is not neccessarily a bad thing. The colonies did it against the King. Second, it's not like they were trying to take over the government or rule the country as is typical in a civil war. They had no interest in ruling the northern states, they just wanted to be let alone. That being said I agree with the above comments that there is too much glorification of the South, even though I agree with their fundamental right to secede and admire some of their military leaders.

[antisocial]

Sorry, but they didn't take up arms against their government. They SECEDED from the US Gov. formed their own, and took up arms to protect themselves from invasion.

[Ohioan]

This is completely true and nice to see someone finally point it out. At the same time, I believe we may have glorified the Confederacy a bit too much. While I realize that they were good people and most of their motives were pure, the simple fact is that they took up arms against their government. Last I knew, that is considered treason. The Confederate veterans have been treated throughout history much better than most guilty of treason could ever hope for.

Suggesting that it is treason to seek to retire from a Federation is absurd. You can make a much stronger case for treason against the founding fathers, who revolted against a Government that claimed to be ordained by God.

The idea that the Federal Government has some sort of all overriding claim on the States is more akin to the Nazi German theory of one Reich, one Volk, one Leader, than anything ever intended for America.

I, as a Conservative Ohioan, am very glad the South is still part of the Union. Without those Southerners who honor their Confederate traditions, the prospects for American Conservatism, generally, would be very bleak indeed. But I also understand what is involved in the endless spewing of venom against the Old South. It is an attempt to break down one of the last bastions of Conservative values in America. It stems from the far Left. It has been embraced by the brainwashed academics and media types--the useful idiots for the far Left. It is given absurd credence, today, by those other Americans who never learned to question what those brainwashed academics prattled. But it is analogous to some very, very ugly parallels in Lenin, Trotsky and Stalinist Russia, and in Nazi Germany.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

[stand watie]

our Confederate ancestors were traitors in EXACTLY the same way Washington, Adams & Jefferson were. they were fighting against tyranny & FOR LIBERTY.

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