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This is completely true and nice to see someone finally point it out. At the same time, I believe we may have glorified the Confederacy a bit too much. While I realize that they were good people and most of their motives were pure, the simple fact is that they took up arms against their government. Last I knew, that is considered treason. The Confederate veterans have been treated throughout history much better than most guilty of treason could ever hope for.

Suggesting that it is treason to seek to retire from a Federation is absurd. You can make a much stronger case for treason against the founding fathers, who revolted against a Government that claimed to be ordained by God.

The idea that the Federal Government has some sort of all overriding claim on the States is more akin to the Nazi German theory of one Reich, one Volk, one Leader, than anything ever intended for America.

I, as a Conservative Ohioan, am very glad the South is still part of the Union. Without those Southerners who honor their Confederate traditions, the prospects for American Conservatism, generally, would be very bleak indeed. But I also understand what is involved in the endless spewing of venom against the Old South. It is an attempt to break down one of the last bastions of Conservative values in America. It stems from the far Left. It has been embraced by the brainwashed academics and media types--the useful idiots for the far Left. It is given absurd credence, today, by those other Americans who never learned to question what those brainwashed academics prattled. But it is analogous to some very, very ugly parallels in Lenin, Trotsky and Stalinist Russia, and in Nazi Germany.

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You can make a much stronger case for treason against the founding fathers, who revolted against a Government that claimed to be ordained by God.

The difference between being a revolutionary and a traitor is all in the difference between winning and losing. Had our founding fathers lost the Revolutionary War, you can bet your sweet bippy they would have been tried and executed for treason. Nathan Hale was, after all.

Suggesting that it is treason to seek to retire from a Federation is absurd.

Why? In this context, all a Federation suggests it that the constituent parts (here the states) retain control of their internal affairs. It says nothing about the Federation's permanence.

You can make a much stronger case for treason against the founding fathers, who revolted against a Government that claimed to be ordained by God.

Actually what the founding fathers committed was treason to King George III. And thank God for it. Just as Claus Von Stauffenberg committed treason against Adolf Hitler. The question is whether that treason was to be denounced or applauded.

The idea that the Federal Government has some sort of all overriding claim on the States is more akin to the Nazi German theory of one Reich, one Volk, one Leader, than anything ever intended for America.

I disagree here. The Nazi reference is interesting in that they eliminated the traditional role of the Länder and made the state a unified state. The Bundesrepublik after the war revered the Länder to a federated state. I would not say that the Federal Gov't in the US, even at its strongest, ever eliminated the existence of the state governments. However, the question is really whether a voluntary submission to a federal republic can be reversed. That is the essence of the secession question.

As always.....well said!

I, as a Conservative Ohioan, am very glad the South is still part of the Union. Without those Southerners who honor their Confederate traditions, the prospects for American Conservatism, generally, would be very bleak indeed. But I also understand what is involved in the endless spewing of venom against the Old South. It is an attempt to break down one of the last bastions of Conservative values in America. It stems from the far Left. It has been embraced by the brainwashed academics and media types--the useful idiots for the far Left. It is given absurd credence, today, by those other Americans who never learned to question what those brainwashed academics prattled

Hear Hear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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