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German survey: Men want cars, women want stars
Los Angeles Times ^ | Wed, Nov. 10, 2004 | JEFFREY FLEISHMAN

Posted on 11/11/2004 7:11:43 AM PST by presidio9

Women like men, and men like cars.

''Hmm, it says here that women think George Clooney has more sex appeal than a Ferrari. Maybe that's because women don't know how to drive a Ferrari,'' said Torsten Kadletz, a used-car dealer unafraid of feminists. He was studying a recent German magazine survey that asked men and women how they'd rather spend a weekend: with a fuel-injected sports car or an air-brushed celebrity.

Few things are more invigorating to the German man than a clear windshield, a palm on the gearshift and miles of open autobahn. In 12 pages of statistics leavened with pictures of half-dressed women draped over expensive upholstery, Men's Car magazine sought to find out where cars and lust intersect. The survey of 2,253 German men and women ages 20 to 50 gauged preference and performance, both on the road and in the bedroom.

Such a study is more than a bit of marketing whimsy in a land where cars are an enduring national pride. The sleek designs and meticulous mechanics of the German-made Mercedes, BMW and Audi have for generations been among the country's finer exports. Cars are studied and shined, engine pings and fan belt squeaks are not tolerated, and Sunday afternoon in the fast lane -- where speeds can reach 140 mph -- is no place for the meek. ''Germans buy cars with passion and love,'' Kadletz said.

FREQUENCY OF SEX

And, perhaps, with a bit of hanky-panky in mind. Men who drive BMWs have more sex per week -- 2.2 times -- than anyone polled. (But are they happy? Apparently, yes.) Guys driving Porsches may have more money, but their cars get more action than their libidos. Porsche drivers have sex 1.4 times a week -- lower than everyone else polled, including guys who drive Fords, Opels and Minis.

''I was surprised that Porsche came in last place,'' said Frank Hofmann, editor of Men's Car. ``I'm driving a Porsche myself, and damn, I didn't want the worst sex life in Germany. But then I discovered that the average Porsche owner is 55 years old. So, 1.4 times of sex a week is OK.''

The study found that sometimes people are like the cars they drive. Take the Volvo. Reliable and stuffed with air bags, the Volvo is marketed as an achievement in perseverance that will always get you there. And so will the Volvo owner. Men with Volvos have longer sex -- 7.3 minutes a session -- than any other driver, especially those Casanovas with Italian cars who clock a mere 4.9 minutes per session.


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To: Mr. Mojo
Believe me, with their cars, the men are showing off just as much for OTHER men. It IS about status.
But often it's just about pure driving pleasure.

Yes, you're right.
The Germans do make nice driving cars, dont' they?
They make nice desserts, too. OOOOooo, their Schlagsahne isn't bad either. Nummers!

21 posted on 11/11/2004 7:53:21 AM PST by starfish923
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To: Michael81Dus
You´re so right. The skills, the body, your character, all that doesn´t matter. It´s all about which passport you have, right? Man, this is so ... simple-minded.

Right.

22 posted on 11/11/2004 7:54:08 AM PST by starfish923
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To: presidio9

Cars don't have a period. period


23 posted on 11/11/2004 7:58:24 AM PST by fish hawk
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To: Michael81Dus
Aparently someone does not understand generalizations...
24 posted on 11/11/2004 8:04:17 AM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: presidio9
No, apparently someone feels offended by generalizations...
25 posted on 11/11/2004 8:08:14 AM PST by Michael81Dus (GERMAN)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Men don't have volvos women have, ... um, wait ..., nevermind


26 posted on 11/11/2004 8:09:12 AM PST by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: Michael81Dus

Even when they are true? By just about every measure you could come up with, American men ARE the best.


27 posted on 11/11/2004 8:11:15 AM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: Old_Mil
Italian cars who clock a mere 4.9 minutes per session.

Quick, ain’t they!

28 posted on 11/11/2004 8:12:49 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Old_Mil
>Men with Volvos have longer sex -- 7.3 minutes a session -- >than any other driver, especially those Casanovas with >Italian cars who clock a mere 4.9 minutes per session. Sounds like our German friends need to take more Cialis/Viagra or something.

Now we know why American Servicemen were welcomed by German women with open ... um ... arms.

7.3 minutes makes you a marathon man in Germany. Unbelievable.

29 posted on 11/11/2004 8:15:35 AM PST by You Dirty Rats (31 Red States - All Your Senate Are Belong To Us!!)
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To: presidio9

Oh sure. You can try to persuade yourself, but not others. Just look at sports... Americas glory has fade away this year in Athens, and the Chinese performed great. Or look at US-made cars... just think of all that comes from Europe. US men weren´t even able to invent the nuclear bomb, they had to attract Europeans to help them (lol). Even the Moon-landing was organized by an immigrant. And in war? Well, we all know that America confronted the Germans after my ancestors were distracted for years by the Russians, Brits and French. But I understand, you don´t want to acknowledge that "being the best" is not an attribute of a nation but for individuals. Your claim is just not true. What does it help that you say American men are the best? In what are they the best? What is the best (regarding taste, e.g. cars)? One Man may say that he is the best on a certain issue, but a nation can never say that - this is narrow-minded and selfish. If it helps the unemployed beggar on the street when he watches me passing by in my dress that he says "I´m American and this is just a German" - this pretty much sounds like arrogance, which leads to nationalism.

Note: Patriotism is good, nationalism not. And your comment is exactly one step too much for patriotism. You´re trying to stand above others, and no longer on a level of equals.


30 posted on 11/11/2004 8:19:51 AM PST by Michael81Dus (GERMAN)
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To: Michael81Dus
Um, did you watch the Olympics this year? We won. As usual. America will continue to produce a higher quality of man than other countries for two reasons: America is the purest genetic melting pot, and American children are, on average, the best nourished. You could look it up.
31 posted on 11/11/2004 8:27:02 AM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: Mr. Mojo

I was commenting on his tagline which had absolutely nothing to do with this thread. My bad, shudda flagged it as a tagline comment.


32 posted on 11/11/2004 8:36:25 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: "The Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS", Fake But Accurate, Experts Say)
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To: Michael81Dus
Sit down. Have a beer. Calm down. Relax. There is nothing wrong with claiming that your people are the best. It just means that you like them most. That's ok, it's patriotism, something that we Germans sadly still have problems with.

Also, it is silly to be offended by stereotypes, precisely for the reason you cited: Even if it is true that Germans (and most Americans, too, BTW) have absolutely no fashion sense and can't find anything wrong with wearing white socks with sandals, everybody knows that there are always individual exceptions. So, there is no reason to get excited about it.

Interestingly, most stereotypes really are true. There is a good book about this subject, too.

33 posted on 11/11/2004 8:39:50 AM PST by cartan
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To: presidio9

"WE" won. Who´s "WE"? Athletes who have the US passport, right. Not you, not your family, and probably none of your friends. The US has the largest delegation, and considering this, the performance was rather bad, compared to other nations (especially the Chinese). And who´s the best? I hope you agree with me that it´s the individual athlete who won - and those were mostly NOT Americans, even if the US team got most gold medals (but not many more than the Chinese).

You speak of "quality of man". This is old, some Germans tried it before and called it Aryan. Sorry pal, but the idea of a better race is out-dated... there is no better race, there´s just the better individual.


34 posted on 11/11/2004 8:44:52 AM PST by Michael81Dus (GERMAN)
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To: Michael81Dus
Patriotism is good, nationalism not.

Patriotism is supporting your country all the time and your government when they deserve it. Mark Twain

35 posted on 11/11/2004 8:46:11 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: You Dirty Rats
"7.3 minutes makes you a marathon man in Germany. Unbelievable"

May explain why German population has been going down for over a decade.
German women may have had enough of German "minute men".
Hehehehehehehehehehehe!
36 posted on 11/11/2004 8:47:43 AM PST by KwasiOwusu
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To: cartan

This is about nationalism, and not patriotism. This "American men are the best" is not different from the Nazi interpretation of "Deutschland, Deutschland über alles". There´s nothing wrong in being proud of the achievements of your country, but there is a fault in thinking your "race" is a better. So, if you have no valuable contribution to this thread tell others your orders.


37 posted on 11/11/2004 8:48:16 AM PST by Michael81Dus (GERMAN)
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To: Just another Joe

An excellent quote!!


38 posted on 11/11/2004 8:48:44 AM PST by Michael81Dus
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To: Michael81Dus
"Americas glory has fade away this year in Athens"

If you call winning the most gold medals AND the overall medal count "fading," then you're entitled to your delusion.

"US men weren´t even able to invent the nuclear bomb, they had to attract Europeans to help them"

The ancestors of most Americans - including mine - were European, obviously. But they were Europeans who were smart enough to know when to get the hell outta Dodge. Do you know what those types are called? Americans.

"And in war? Well, we all know that America confronted the Germans after my ancestors were distracted for years by the Russians, Brits and French."

The French? lol.....you're quite the comedian. If not for those French "distrations" the Americans never would've beaten you goose-steppin' socialists, eh?

39 posted on 11/11/2004 8:52:09 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Michael81Dus

I notice that the only guy talking about "race" in this thread is you...


40 posted on 11/11/2004 8:53:10 AM PST by cartan
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