Posted on 11/11/2004 7:11:43 AM PST by presidio9
Yes, you're right.
The Germans do make nice driving cars, dont' they?
They make nice desserts, too. OOOOooo, their Schlagsahne isn't bad either. Nummers!
Right.
Cars don't have a period. period
Men don't have volvos women have, ... um, wait ..., nevermind
Even when they are true? By just about every measure you could come up with, American men ARE the best.
Italian cars who clock a mere 4.9 minutes per session.
Quick, ain’t they!
Now we know why American Servicemen were welcomed by German women with open ... um ... arms.
7.3 minutes makes you a marathon man in Germany. Unbelievable.
Oh sure. You can try to persuade yourself, but not others. Just look at sports... Americas glory has fade away this year in Athens, and the Chinese performed great. Or look at US-made cars... just think of all that comes from Europe. US men weren´t even able to invent the nuclear bomb, they had to attract Europeans to help them (lol). Even the Moon-landing was organized by an immigrant. And in war? Well, we all know that America confronted the Germans after my ancestors were distracted for years by the Russians, Brits and French. But I understand, you don´t want to acknowledge that "being the best" is not an attribute of a nation but for individuals. Your claim is just not true. What does it help that you say American men are the best? In what are they the best? What is the best (regarding taste, e.g. cars)? One Man may say that he is the best on a certain issue, but a nation can never say that - this is narrow-minded and selfish. If it helps the unemployed beggar on the street when he watches me passing by in my dress that he says "I´m American and this is just a German" - this pretty much sounds like arrogance, which leads to nationalism.
Note: Patriotism is good, nationalism not. And your comment is exactly one step too much for patriotism. You´re trying to stand above others, and no longer on a level of equals.
I was commenting on his tagline which had absolutely nothing to do with this thread. My bad, shudda flagged it as a tagline comment.
Also, it is silly to be offended by stereotypes, precisely for the reason you cited: Even if it is true that Germans (and most Americans, too, BTW) have absolutely no fashion sense and can't find anything wrong with wearing white socks with sandals, everybody knows that there are always individual exceptions. So, there is no reason to get excited about it.
Interestingly, most stereotypes really are true. There is a good book about this subject, too.
"WE" won. Who´s "WE"? Athletes who have the US passport, right. Not you, not your family, and probably none of your friends. The US has the largest delegation, and considering this, the performance was rather bad, compared to other nations (especially the Chinese). And who´s the best? I hope you agree with me that it´s the individual athlete who won - and those were mostly NOT Americans, even if the US team got most gold medals (but not many more than the Chinese).
You speak of "quality of man". This is old, some Germans tried it before and called it Aryan. Sorry pal, but the idea of a better race is out-dated... there is no better race, there´s just the better individual.
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time and your government when they deserve it. Mark Twain
This is about nationalism, and not patriotism. This "American men are the best" is not different from the Nazi interpretation of "Deutschland, Deutschland über alles". There´s nothing wrong in being proud of the achievements of your country, but there is a fault in thinking your "race" is a better. So, if you have no valuable contribution to this thread tell others your orders.
An excellent quote!!
If you call winning the most gold medals AND the overall medal count "fading," then you're entitled to your delusion.
"US men weren´t even able to invent the nuclear bomb, they had to attract Europeans to help them"
The ancestors of most Americans - including mine - were European, obviously. But they were Europeans who were smart enough to know when to get the hell outta Dodge. Do you know what those types are called? Americans.
"And in war? Well, we all know that America confronted the Germans after my ancestors were distracted for years by the Russians, Brits and French."
The French? lol.....you're quite the comedian. If not for those French "distrations" the Americans never would've beaten you goose-steppin' socialists, eh?
I notice that the only guy talking about "race" in this thread is you...
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