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In the spirit of Halloween, share your ghost stories
30 Oct 04 | Self

Posted on 10/30/2004 6:28:41 PM PDT by CurlyBill

I've had MANY requests to have a thread where people share their own ghost stories. Well... here it is. Have at it!


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To: rocky88

One night in April of last year I had a dream of a friend I had not seen in quite some time. She was standing in front of the Seventh Avenue entrance to Penn Station (in NYC) at a bus/taxi stand. She was dressed in a black raincoat, black pants, sneakers, and wore Raybans. She was smiling, waving, holding a set of car keys or a piece of chalk in her hand. She carried a black Coach shoulder bag and had a wheeled carry-on at her side.

I remember waking up, going "What the *&%$ is she doing in my head?"

Twelve days later, her brother called to tell me she died. The night I dreamed of her was when she was in a coma, hours from having the plug pulled.


21 posted on 10/30/2004 7:19:59 PM PDT by lavrenti (Think of who is pithy, yet so attractive to women.)
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To: lavrenti

That's just amazing. The luggage is an eerie component to the dream.


22 posted on 10/30/2004 7:24:05 PM PDT by rocky88 (John Kerry: The boy with his nose pressed up against the glass.)
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To: rocky88

She was born in New York, and missed her childhood in Queens.

I interpeted it as her going home.


23 posted on 10/30/2004 7:27:32 PM PDT by lavrenti (Think of who is pithy, yet so attractive to women.)
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To: CurlyBill

About twelve years ago, I was helping my best friend work on his car stereo. The foundation of his house was up about two feet, so he had a small porch with steps leading off to the side where his car was parked. He had an old white two-door late 70's model Buick.

It was around nine - ten o'clock at night and he got a phone call so he went in to get it. I stayed outside and leaned up with my back against his car waiting for him. He was in a few minutes when I started to get restless. I turned his stereo on and was standing facing his car now. I leaned back to check out the stars since it was a great clear evening. Just as I leaned back, this hand came over me from behind. I ducked and turned around, figuring he had finished his call and was messing around jumping at me from the porch.

No one was there.

Needless to say, I was a little bit perturbed. I went inside and he was still on the phone gabbing at his girlfriend. I didn't say anything, but I guess I looked like something had gone wrong. He ended his conversation pretty quickly and wondered what was up. I thought he'd think I was crazy, but went ahead and told him. He was sort of relieved because he had seen it too, but was afraid to tell anyone too.

He was going home from school one evening and out of the corner of one eye, he sees this hand reaching near his shoulder like someone was in the back seat. He thought someone had gotten into his car and he didn't notice before leaving. He said he nearly wrecked, but turned around and nothing was there. He said it happened one other time after that. The transmission went out a short time later, and needless to say, he wasn't very motivated to get it fixed. He just let someone have it.


24 posted on 10/30/2004 7:30:22 PM PDT by kenth (Hollow plan from the Hollow Man...)
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To: rocky88

I've always wanted to do "automatic writing" that meant something. I do that when I write stories. I go back to read them and wonder who could have written them, since I remember typing them, but not always what I type. But, I never have automatic writing the way you have.


25 posted on 10/30/2004 7:43:22 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy (My plan has a plan.)
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To: lavrenti

My husband's grandma had Parkinson's so we lived in her house, while she lived at my mother-in-law's. One day I was on the computer and the window was open. It was a beautiful spring day. I could even smell the orange tree and hear the birds. I had a feeling like someone was in the room with me. The thought, "It's a beautiful day to die, " came to me. I had a happy, peaceful feeling, then everything was just normal. I got up and started looking for my husband to come home, even though it was too early for him to be home from work. He did come home early. His grandma's heart had stopped that morning and my sister-in-law had performed CPR. At the time I had that feeling she was on life support in the hospital . Nobody believed me when I said she had already died at that point./ Not hours latert,


26 posted on 10/30/2004 7:50:19 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy (My plan has a plan.)
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To: Lokibob

You should win an award for the best ghost story. Now, is it REALLY true?


27 posted on 10/30/2004 7:51:47 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy (My plan has a plan.)
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To: Lokibob

"I walked outside and noticed that the motel was a 2 story building, so I decided that the other people were on the second floor. Walked around the building, and no stairs to the second floor. Back into the hall, I walked the hall again, and no stairs to the second floor. This was starting to get creepy."

A guy I used to work with told me about the house that his Aunt and Uncle were renting. The first time he went to visit their "new" house, he notices (from the outside) that it has a second floor but as he walks around the house he can't find the stairs. He asks his relatives about this and they tell them that the owner had the staircase removed because the upstairs was haunted and he didn't want the ghosts coming downstairs.

I don't care how cheap a place is to rent, if it's gotten to the point where they've taken the staircase out because of ghosts, I'm not interested.


28 posted on 10/30/2004 7:58:45 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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Two years ago I got a phone call from DC area code (202)pay phone. I didn't answer it because I wasn't home.... I thought it was strange becaue I only know one person that lives in DC and haven't heard from him in years. Well the next day I get a call form another friend saying that my friend from DC was dead. The strange thing was he died the morning of the first phone call so it couldn't have been him or could it have?


29 posted on 10/30/2004 8:11:10 PM PDT by VastRWCon
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To: CurlyBill

I had been working with her for about a year, when my office-mates husband, whom I had never met, was diagnosed with cancer of the liver. He was in the hospital for a surgical procedure and some chemotherapy and had been there for about two weeks. He seemed to be doing exceptionally well, and she was overjoyed that he would be coming home the next day. She and their son visited with him until 8:00 p.m. and then went home to get some cleaning and cooking done – he loved sweets.

That same night I was laying in bed reading and fell asleep with the book in my hands and the lights on and suddenly I was in Bill’s hospital room talking with him. Three other people came in to visit him and they didn’t seem to see me, but they had brought him a plant in a planter shaped like a pipe. After these three people left, Bill said he was going to leave now. I woke up with a start and looked at the clock and it was 10:23 and I knew with a certainty that he had died. I found out later that he was pronounced dead at 10:30 p.m.

When she returned to work, his widow told me that she knew that he had had company after she left him and she wished that she knew who it was. She wanted to know what his last words had been. I asked her how she knew that he had had company and she reached in her desk drawer and pulled out that planter shaped like a pipe. I almost fainted. I never said one word, for two reasons: 1) she would have thought I was nuts; and 2) I didn’t know who the three people where and I figured they would come forward – but they never did.


30 posted on 10/30/2004 8:28:28 PM PDT by jtill
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To: jtill

Reading your story makes me wonder if you described the three people to your office-mate if she would recognize any of the three. Maybe if enough time has passed and you tell her, she won't think you're nuts!


31 posted on 10/30/2004 8:36:11 PM PDT by rocky88 (John Kerry: The boy with his nose pressed up against the glass.)
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To: CurlyBill

CurlyBill,In the house I used to live I thought I heard the bedroom door open.One night I thought I saw an older gentlemen standing in the hallway and heard the bedroom door open again.A few years later the former owner stop by and said her husband died in that room.


32 posted on 10/30/2004 8:36:46 PM PDT by fatima
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To: HungarianGypsy
Every word is true except the cost of getting into the prairie dog house was $4.50. BWAHAHAHA

Happy halloween.
33 posted on 10/30/2004 8:40:26 PM PDT by Lokibob (All typos and spelling errors are mine and copyrighted!!!!)
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To: CurlyBill
I lived in a small house in MI that had a hallway that led from the living-room to the bedrooms/bathroom/kitchen. The family was all in the living-room watching a movie. I was on the floor with my back against a chair which was placed in front of the picture window. The TV was to the left and the hallway to the right of where I was sitting. While watching the movie I had an image out of the corner of my eye coming from the hallway. As I turned my head to see what was coming I clearly saw a foot with a sandal on it running towards me. Whoever it was was moving so fast that the foot and part of the leg were the only part of the person that I was able to see. As it ran right next to me I could feel/hear it as the foot hit the floor with a thud then went directly out the picture window in back of me. I was able to turn my head fast enough to see the curtains move as it leaped out the window. I turned my head back in shock to see if anyone else had seen it. Sitting directly in front of me was my brother....who looked rather pale as i'm sure I did too. No one else in the room saw it. My brother and I every now and then still talk about it.

LOL, in fact every time I see the Goodyear Tire symbol(the foot, sandal with wings) I think about it.

34 posted on 10/30/2004 8:41:05 PM PDT by RckyRaCoCo ("When you have to shoot, shoot, don't talk!")
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To: CurlyBill
This is a repeat of my post from last Halloween:

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The following story was told to me by the woman who rented my parents their first home in California when they moved to Sacramento in 1939. A devout Catholic (although she had been divorced by her husband, she did not consider the divorce valid and did not remarry until her husband died many years later) the landlady swore on her Bible, in front of my sister and me after she told us the story, that it was absolutely true. She was quite serious about it.

In the 1970s, I personally confirmed some of the more mundane parts of her story. The events she described occurring in the 1950s had been reported in the local news, and although there was now an empty lot where it and a gas station once stood, the house did exist. I will call her "Irene" because that was really her name.

Irene is dead now and I have rewritten her story as a short story, almost exactly as she told it.

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The Landlady's Tale

It was September, 1920. The Smith family was moving from San Francisco, where their youngest daughter Irene had lived her entire 15 years, to their new home in Sacramento, where Irene's father had his new job. The job was probationary at first so Irene's parents had rented a house instead of selling the San Francisco house and buying another in Sacramento, If the job did not work out, they wanted to move back.

Irene's father had found a great bargain. The house was a three story Victorian complete with attic and basement located only seven blocks from the State Capitol Building. It was located on a corner lot in an upscale neighborhood of other stately Victorians. The rent was much lower than usual for the neighborhood.

Their new landlord explained to Irene's parents that he was merely the agent for the owner, his sister, who had "moved back east, because of her health" several years earlier. The owner's brother was apologetic that they could not have the entire basement for their use, but, he explained "The back storeroom of the basement is packed full of some of my sister's belongings that she hasn't sent for yet. You can have the other two basement rooms for your belongings."

The house had large, airy rooms with large windows. The first floor consisted of a large kitchen with walk-in pantry and breakfast nook, a formal dining room with built-in oaken hutches and sideboards, a living room, and a separate "sociable parlor" for entertaining important guests. The front entry led into the large staircase wrapping around a central core and was open from bottom to top, giving a clear view of all landings and stairs.

The second floor had the master suite for Mr. and Mrs. Smith, the bathroom, another bedroom destined to become Mr. Smith's office and which would double as a guest room, and a small storage room. The third floor had one bedroom with a closet that Irene would share with her 22 year old adopted sister, Nita, and Nita's two and a half year old daughter. The attic was actually an unfinished space on the third floor that could be made into more bedrooms.

Nita and Irene got along very well. Although Nita had been adopted (she had literally been left on the Smith's doorstep 22 years before), she and Irene could not have been closer. Irene had been a 12 year old maid of honor when Nita had married her childhood sweetheart, just before he shipped out to Europe where he died in a foxhole, just eight months before his daughter was born.

Irene had been given the option of sleeping in the guest room with her father's desk and files but she much preferred sharing the big double bed with sister (and best friend) Nita. Nita's little girl would sleep in a crib in the room with them.

The five members of the Smith family all had their jobs in the move... Mrs. Smith directing the workmen moving the large furniture from the horse drawn drayage cart to the house, Mr. Smith hanging family pictures, Irene and Nita unpacking the fine china and putting it into the built in hutches in the dining room and "The baby", which is how they always referred to Nita's daughter, was heavily involved in everything, getting in the way, skipping, laughing. It was a hectic but homey scene.

The trouble started that very first day. The family was absorbed in the mundane tasks of moving in. The baby was left to her own resources and was skipping around the house, watching this, watching that, asking questions and generally having loads of fun.

She skipped past her mother and aunt and went by herself into the kitchen. She had not been in there very long when she started screaming... loudly and piercingly.

Nita dropped one of her mother's heirloom plates, shattering it on the hardwood floor, and dashed into the kitchen with Irene close on her heels.

The baby was standing, petrified, screaming, and shaking her head from side to side. Nita dropped to her knees as she hugged her daughter to her, trying to comfort her. The baby was inconsolable.

For over an hour Nita carried her and rocked her in her arms before the child quieted and finally fell asleep. The baby never could tell them what caused her fear and even in later years, she would waken screaming in the night and could only vaguely describe a room in her dreams that Nita and the other could recognize as the kitchen. The child would never again walk into the kitchen alone as long as they lived there... which would not be that long.

Strangely, none of the other events that occurred in that house would ever bother her.

That night an exhausted but satisfied Smith family retired for the night. They had gone out to dinner because the kitchen had not been completed enough to cook in. Nita carried the sleeping baby up to the third floor and put her in her crib. She and Irene took turns taking baths and watching the sleeping child. It was about 10:00PM when the lights were turned out after all good nights had been said.

The bedroom Irene and Nita shared with the baby was a square. The headboard of their big double bed shared the wall with the door to the landing. The baby's crib was on the inside wall next to the landing door and the wall opposite the bed had two large dormer style windows. The wall to the right of the bed had a closet that was large enough to hold a couple of dressers and some trunks. The door to the closet was right next to the head of the bed and next to it, closer to the windows was a large dresser with a basin and pitcher.

Both girls were very tired after a day of hard labor and fell quickly asleep. Several hours later, Irene awoke with a feeling that someone was watching her. She got up and went to check the baby who was fast asleep. As she turned around she was surprised to see that Nita, who was a deeper sleeper than she, was also awake.

"I'm sorry I woke you... I tried to be quiet," Irene apologized, "I know how tired you must be."

"You didn't wake me," Nita answered, "I woke just before you got up. Were you looking at me? I felt someone was was watching me."

"Nita! That was what woke me. I thought the baby was awake," said Irene, as she climbed back into bed and pulled the covers up.

The girls lay there and chatted about the events of the day and what lay ahead in Sacramento. Irene and Nita talked girl talk for about fifteen minutes, when without warning...

Knock! Knock! Knock!

The sound came from the closet door on the right. Both girls turned, startled, toward the closet.

The last knock had just knocked when the closet door swung open! The girls stared. Just as suddenly...

Knock! Knock! Knock!

... and the door swung closed!

Both girls jumped out of bed, screaming. Nita rushed over and picked up the baby and both ran out yelling for their parents.

"DADDY! There's someone in the house! Help!"

Mr. Smith came dashing out of the second floor master suite in his nightshirt with his big revolver and ran up the stairs, meeting the panicked girls on the way down. Both pointed up stairs, turned and fled to Mrs. Smith, who pulled them into her bedroom and shut the door.

Mr. Smith continued up the stairs to find an empty room and closet. He searched the attic, checked the windows, turned on all the lights and searched every room, checked every window, and even took a light down and searched the basement. Nothing.

"There's nobody here except us" he called out as he approached the master bedroom.

"No, Daddy, there was someone in our room... in the closet!" Nita cried.

"Look, I've searched the entire house. Everything is normal and there is no one here. It was probably the wind." Mr. Smith stated.

Mrs. Smith offered her opinion. "Its a new house for you. You're not used to it, so it's strange. You let your imaginations run away with you. You probably had a nightmare."

"BOTH of us? The same dream?" asked Nita. "It was not a dream."

"Nita, it was a dream." When Momma made up her mind, it was made up and NOTHING could change it. "Go back to bed. We have more work in the morning. Go to sleep."

"I'm going to turn off the lights and go back to sleep. You girls do the same." When Mrs. Smith made up her mind, Mr. Smith's mind was also made up. He clomped off to shut off the lights.

Irene noticed that he took the gun with him, though.

Both girls trudged back upstairs. "It's only the wind." Nita said, trying to convince herself.

Nita put the still sleeping baby between them on the bed and both got out their Rosaries and started praying. Irene was certain she would not sleep a wink for the rest of the night. She was wrong. Both of the girls fell asleep before they could complete their prayers and slept soundly.

At breakfast, 'Topic A' would have been the events of the previous night but Mrs. Smith's mind was made up and she would brook no disagreement: "It was a dream."

"It was the wind," Mr. Smith said, under his breath.

The second night in the house, the girls went to sleep having talked it out between themselves and decided it HAD to have been a dream. Sleep came quickly because it had been another full day of settling in.

Both girls awakened with the same feeling... someone was watching them. Irene grabbed her Rosary and just held it. A few minutes after they awakened... Knock! Knock! Knock! ...and the closet door swung open! And then... Knock! Knock! Knock! ... the door swung closed!

Again, two screaming girls grabbed the baby and dashed out the door, awakening their parents. Mr. Smith again, searched the house, and again found nothing.

"It's the wind!" said Mr. Smith.

"It's only a dream!" said Mrs. Smith.

"Go back to bed," they both ordered.

The next night was a repeat of the previous nights. By the fourth night, Mr. Smith refused to get up a search. Mrs. Smith had decided that maybe the girls were doing this deliberately because they didn't like Sacramento and wanted to return to San Francisco. On the fifth night she had had enough.

"If you girls disturb my sleep one more time, you will NOT like the consequences. We are staying."

"Momma," cried Irene, frustrated, "we aren't making this up. It really happens."

"Mother..." Nita tried to enter the discussion.

"NO MORE! We're staying... get used to it. I don't want to hear anything more about it."

Get used to it they did. In fact, it became a normal thing for them.

Nita bought a clock and they found they always awoke within a few minutes of 1:35AM and the door would knock three times, open, knock three times and close at 1:43AM. It was like clockwork. It got to be routine.

They discussed it with everyone except Mrs. Smith. She would not allow the subject to be brought up at all. Mr. Smith was certain it was a phenomenon of weather... the wind. Others were sure the girls were making it up or joking. Dreaming was another popular theory.

In late May of 1921, a friend of their father's came to visit one weekend from Stockton and was to be "put up" in the guest room/office. In after dinner conversation, while Mrs. Smith was finishing in the kitchen, the subject of the closet door was brought up. The visitor did not believe them.

"I don't believe in stuff like that. It ain't possible."

The girls assured him it happened every night.

"Tell you what. You gals take the guest room. I'll sleep in your room tonight... and I'll prove you wrong."

The girls agreed, even though Mrs. Smith would object to changes in sleeping arrangements (if she knew about it), especially for this purpose, and the guest room only had a single bed. The two sneaked downstairs with the baby after Mr. and Mrs. Smith had gone to bed and the guest went up to their room.

The girls slept through the night for the first time since moving into the house. The next morning, they sneaked back up to awaken their guest so they could exchange rooms again and, more importantly, learn what he experienced.

On the floor of the landing, they found his hat. The door to their room was wide open.

He was gone! His overnight bag, and all, gone.

The bedspread was strewn across the floor toward the landing door and the bed was pushed at an angle away from the landing door. His truck was gone from the street in front of the house.

Irene's father was perplexed. His friend never answered their father's letters and he never came back to the house.

Years later, Irene met him again and asked him what happened. Obviously distressed, he refused to tell her and told her never to ask him again. He then got up and walked out.

Several months passed. Irene and Nita were completely used to the phenomena. It was even a bit boring. Knock, knock, knock, door open; knock, knock, knock, door closed. Ho Hum. However, they NEVER slept through it and the baby always did.

Mrs. Smith would not hear anything about it and Mr. Smith ignored it.

Everything changed on the night of June 7, 1921.

That night, about 1:45AM, Mr. Smith had a call of nature and got up to go to the bathroom.

As he left the master bedroom, he glanced up the stairs and caught a glimpse of a man standing on the landing. He darted back into his room and grabbed his revolver and charged out, yelling at the top of his lungs. The girls, still awake from the closet door event of the evening came out to see their father dashing around the house opening doors and turning on lights looking for a burglar.

He found nothing.

Mrs. Smith decided that Mr. Smith had been sleep walking and dreamed the whole thing.

"I did not dream it... I saw a man." Mr. Smith insisted.

"You dreamed it." Mrs. Smith insisted... and a glorious argument developed.

The girls went back to bed.

The night of June 8, 1921. Mr. Smith cleaned and oiled his revolver before going to bed... and he loaded his shotgun for the first time. Mrs. Smith was not speaking with him.

His theory was that someone, perhaps a previous tenant, had free entry to the house and he was going to catch him.

Over Mrs. Smith's objections, Mr. Smith left the door to their bedroom open and he propped his shotgun next to it. The revolver was on the nightstand.

The girls went to bed.

At 1:33AM both of them awoke, feeling they were being watched again.

Ten minutes later the closet door SLAMMED open without knocking! A bloodcurdling scream, the most terrifying sound Irene had ever heard, echoed out of the closet! SOMETHING DARK ran out of the closet, around the bed, opened the door to the landing and slammed it behind it!

Both girls were so frozen in fright they could not move to go check on the baby!

Mr. and Mrs. Smith, awakened with a start, hearing a horrible scream coming from upstairs. Mr. Smith jumped out of bed and grabbed the revolver. As he dashed out the bedroom door he hit the light switch for the landing. To his shock, he saw a man, covered in blood, carrying a knife, running down the stairs from the third floor landing!

With visions of his daughters lying dead in their bed, he raised his revolver and took aim.

The man disappeared! He vanished in plain site with nowhere to go. Gone as if he had never been there!

Mrs. Smith was climbing out of bed to find out what the commotion was all about.

Mr. Smith dashed up the stairs and slammed open the girls bedroom to find two very frightened girls frantically saying their Rosaries and clutching the beads. The baby was still sound asleep in her crib.

Nobody went back to bed that night.

Mr. Smith woke a neighbor who owned a phone and the police were called. They found nothing and chalked it up to a prowler that Mr. Smith had scared off.

Mrs. Smith latched onto that explanation and adopted it as her own. She spent the night demanding that Mr. Smith call a locksmith to replace all the locks on the house as soon as possible in the morning. Mrs. Smith was adamant... a prowler was NO reason to move out. The police would catch him and everything would go back to normal. The girls' story was dismissed as just another nightmare.

Mr. Smith moved the desk out of his office and moved the girls' furniture and clothing in. They would never sleep or even go into the room on the third floor again.

Mrs. Smith refused to even consider moving. She thought moving the girls into the office was a bunch of nonsense, but if Mr. Smith didn't mind having his office on the third floor, alright.

Two days later, Mrs. Smith came in from a day of shopping with some friends and lay down on the sofa in the living room. As she lay there, she looked over toward the kitchen.

Remember the kitchen?

"Who is that man in the kitchen," Mrs. Smith asked Irene.

"Momma, there is no one there," Irene replied, looking toward the kitchen.

"Why there certainly IS... I can see him plain as day..." Suddenly, Mrs. Smith screamed! "Oh, MY GOD! I can see right through him!"

The Smith family left the house within an hour, never to return. They stayed in a downtown hotel for three weeks while Mr. Smith found and bought a house. Movers packed and removed their belongings from the house Mrs. Smith refused to ever return to.

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Many years passed. Irene grew up, married a fairly wealthy man with interests in Real Estate and she, herself, became a Real Estate agent and later a property developer. Her husband, became enamored of his secretary, and divorced Irene (but did not get a Catholic annulment). Over the years, Irene kept an eye on that house and noted a strange pattern.

No one ever lived in the house for more than about 10 months.

Almost everyone who lived there moved out within a week of June 8th. All were gone by the end of June. Often it went unrented for long periods of time.

In the late-1930s, the brother of the owner cleaned out his bank accounts and moved out of town, abandoning the properties in his charge. No one knew where he went and he was never heard from again.

The neighborhood fell into disrepair as the city grew eastward and it soon became an area of broken down houses. Many of the once stately Victorian homes were converted to low-income apartments and the neighborhood drifted into a slum. The house stood empty for years.

Property taxes went unpaid.

One day in the early fifties, Irene, now a very wealthy woman who owned several hundred houses and apartments in Sacramento, noticed that a tax lien auction for the property was listed in the paper. Out of curiosity, with no interest at all in buying the property, she attended the sale.

The eventual winning bidder was a property developer friend who was also a competitor of Irene's. She approached him.

"What are you planning to do with this house?" Irene asked.

"The location is ideal," he said, "for a motel I am planning to build. There is a lot of traffic on this corner."

"I don't think I would build a hotel on this site," said Irene. "I don't think it would work. it's not a good idea. Not on that site."

"Why not?" asked her friend.

"Let me buy you a cup of coffee and I will tell you a story about that house. I know a lot about its history."

They went to a cafe down the block and she related her tale. He was not impressed... except with her chutzpah.

"What are you trying to pull... if you wanted this property why didn't you bid on it?"

Irene insisted she had no interest in the property but felt that he should know about its history. HE, on the other hand, was convinced she had some business plot going.

"I don't believe in that junk... and I'm surprised a hardheaded business woman like yourself would even spout such malarkey. I am going to build my motel." He left in a huff.

Several months later he called Irene at her office. "Can you meet me?" her friend said, "Something has come up. Oh, my god, has it come up!"

Irene agreed to meet him for lunch.

They met at the Senator Hotel dining room and Irene's friend was obviously agitated.

"My men started demolition of that house you were wanting," he said.

"I DIDN'T want it..." Irene interrupted.

But he just continued. "Irene, there were TWO BODIES in the basement wall!!!"

"WHAT?!"

"Two skeletons actually. It'll be in the papers tomorrow. I told the police about your interest in the house. I think they want to talk to you."

The police never did talk to Irene as they had a confession in hand.

Along with the bodies, the police found a box containing a .45 Colt Single Action and a worm-eaten, handwritten confession from the killer. As the story was finally related, the owner of the house had lived in the house with her younger brother in the early part of the 20th century.

The writer of the confession wrote how, on the night of June 8, 1902, a little after 1:30AM, he was awakened by a terrible scream from his sister's upstairs bedroom. He had gotten out of bed, taken his old army revolver out of the nightstand and ran out onto the landing where he saw a man with a knife, covered in blood, running down the stairs from the third floor. He shot and killed the man on the stairs.

Running up the stairs to his sister's bedroom, he found her naked, brutally stabbed body in the closet next to her bed. Covering her body with the bedspread, he went down to put on some pants to go get help.

As he dressed, he wrote, he thought about his future. His sister owned everything and HE was not included in her will. She was leaving everything to charity.

Instead of getting help, he carried both bodies to the basement and buried them in the wall. He moved a lot of furniture in front of the wall.

He announced to the neighbors and friends that his sister was not well and had gone back east to live with a nonexistent sister. He then took over managing her properties for his own benefit.

When he decided he couldn't keep it up anymore, he decided to leave... but his conscience made him leave the confession which, along with the gun, was placed behind the same wall where the bodies were buried. He wanted people to know what happened, and that he really didn't do anything wrong.

Thus ends The Landlady's Tale.

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Except for the ghostly story Irene related, this was all duly reported in the early fifties in the local newspapers as a old crime that solved itself.

The medical examiners office determined the skeletons were those of a young man and a middle aged woman.

The brother, if he was still alive, was never found.

The motel was never built... instead a gas station was erected on the site. It was never successful for very long.

When I researched this story in the mid to late 1970s, after Irene's death, the lot was empty, a home for derelicts sleeping in bushes.

I again repeat that Irene swore this all happened as she told me it did. I recall seeing the goosebumps that rose on her arms as she told the story. I get goosebumps when I retell it even today.

Mr. Smith died in the 1930s but Mrs. Smith was still alive in the late fifties and I knew her. She was still a no-nonsense type. After Mr. Smith's death, she had gone back to work... as a store detective for a large department store chain.

My mother asked her once about the events related here and she confirmed that it happened as Irene told it. She then said she didn't want to talk about it ever again... and excused herself to go to evening mass.

What do you all think?

35 posted on 10/30/2004 10:50:11 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tagline shut down for renovations and repairs. Re-open June of 2001.)
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To: CurlyBill
Here is my best ghost story -- and it is all true.

Some years ago, a family whom we were friends with began to experience odd occurrences in their house: unexplained noises that ranged from footsteps and household noises where no one was to moans that seemed to come from the walls or empty air; cold spots; misty lights in the hallways and in a bedroom; the door bell ringing with no one there; and seeming visitors who drove down the driveway but then disappeared.

Friends visiting the family experienced these things as well, with some of them afterward declining to visit. Maids would routinely quit, mumbling about spirits. My brother saw some of the lights, and researchers from the local university became convinced that something unusual was going on. The family chuckled ruefully about their "ghost" and tried to make light of it despite becoming frazzled and worn down.

The incidents escalated in frequency and severity, and the women in the family -- three daughters and their mother -- began having strange, disturbing dreams. Then there was an especially ominous incident. The oldest daughter, a teenager, became fully awake at 3 AM as the covers were peeled off her bed and she was pinned down with her arms and legs forced apart, with voices urgently chanting that "now was the time, do it now, the hour is come." The girl started praying fervently and, with great effort, was able to break free and flee to her parents' bedroom.

The next day, the mother of the family related what had occurred to friends at the Catholic elementary school that she taught at. That weekend, unbidden and without prior announcement, the principal of the school showed up with an elderly priest in tow. Unusually, the entire family was present and, under careful questioning from the priest, they described what had been happening.

The priest explained that demonic spirits were at work and went though the house with the family, leading them in prayer and sprinkling Holy water about. The family, practicing Catholics, did this with sincerity, but were perplexed since this occurred before "The Exorcist" was published and filmed.

That was the end of it, except for a final dream by the oldest daughter. She dreamed that the old priest came to her, smiling, telling her that he had died but not to worry because she would be safe and that he would continue praying for her and her family. Later that day, the mother was told by the school principal that the priest had died the night before.

In the years since, I read enough about demonic possession and exorcism to recognize that the family was indeed under demonic infestation , with the oldest daughter under demonic assault, the last stage before possession. Even the 3 AM hour fits, with it regarded as the time at which demonic forces at at their greatest strength.

If anyone has an interest in the subject, Malachi Martin's "Hostage to the Devil" is the best and most accessible popular account.
36 posted on 10/30/2004 11:49:50 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: CurlyBill

Great thread! Great stories. I only read one that sounded a little fishy. I hope we can keep this thread going until tomorrow night.


37 posted on 10/31/2004 12:46:17 AM PDT by lara
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To: lara

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38 posted on 10/31/2004 1:30:41 AM PDT by oceanperch ( Mt. St. Helens is nothing compared to the stuff Kerry spews.)
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To: CurlyBill
On a Dec. 30th in the 1980's, I was sleeping on the couch with my baby son because he was ill and running a high fever and I didn't want to bother my husband with my getting up to get my son meds and I wanted to keep a close eye on my son.

I was laying there with my son cradled in my arms when I heard noises toward the kitchen, I thought, "Oh great! A mouse must be in a cabinet messing around the metal pans."

So I sat up to glance into the kitchen, when I saw something in front of the tv. It was a man, dressed in what I believe to be a late 1880's double breasted medium blue cavalry uniform or possibly a union uniform, with those gold shoulder straps that hang down under the arm, a belt and a sword in it's scabbard?. His matching blue hat was one of those that has the depression in the top and the rim of the hat on either side turned up. His hat had gold braids around the bottom of the crown? of the hat with two tassles hanging to each side in front and two gold swords crossed on the front part above the gold braid and tasles.

He had greyish hair, a greyish beard and mustache and the most piercing blue eyes I've ever seen.

When I first saw him, I could see the tv through him but then he solidified more and looked as real as could be.

He told me something through his eyes, not verbally, and I nodded my head, in my mind saying to him "yes, I understand." But I don't remember what else he told me except that everything would be ok.

I was only scared at first then somehow for some reason I wasn't scared of him but comforted by him.

After I nodded my head and mentally told him that I understood, I laid back down. He then slowly faded out.

Then that darn noise started up in the kitchen again so I sat up again and turned to look that way again.

What I saw was the wide dark face of an American Indian looking into the bay window that was in the kitchen above the sink and cabinet area. He had a huge smile on his face and scared me half to death.

I grabbed my son and started yelling for my husband as I was running to the beginning of the hallway towards our bedroom. I stopped and turned around to look and that person was still staring at me through the window with that huge smile on his face until he saw my husband reach me, then he disappeared.

The next morning I went out to investigate where I had seen the face of the American Indian and sure enough, by getting up on the tongue of the mobile home and leaning on the metal so that one can see into the house through the bay window, it made the same sound that had woken me in the first place and made me sit up and look the second time.

The property has been in the family since the early 1900's at the very least. I can only surmise that my Cavalry soldier was either an ancestor of mine or just a Union soldier killed either during some of the Civil War action that might have happened out this way or was a Cavalry man from the Indian Wars that went on out here in western Oklahoma.

So I figure it was the ghost of an ancestor or Cavalry man warning me of a peeping tom and possible intruder who might have meant to do harm to us.

Even George Custer traveled around in this area and up and down the Washita River. They usually traveled and were stationed at many of the different forts like "Camp Supply", which is Fort Supply now, to Fort Cobb and on down south but patrolled all over Indian Territory. They even patrolled the South Canadian River and my Grandmother used to tell me about the Indian village pretty near the South Canadian...maybe about a mile from our town.

I've never had another experience quite like that again.

Oh, we bought my grandmother's house after she passed away. On the one year anniversary of her death (we didn't realize the date signifigance until hours later), my daughter was sweeping her room and the hallway.

While she was sweeping the hallway, "something" told her to turn around and look behind her. She did and found that where she'd plugged the sweeper into the outlet it was on fire. So she turned the sweeper off and ran and got me. When she turned the sweeper off, the fire went out so there was only minor damage to sweeper cord, electrical switch and smoke on the bathroom wall. She was freaked out about whatever or whomever told her to look behind her and about the fire.

Another time I was at the doctor's office and my daughter was home alone talking on the phone to her best friend. She heard someone (whom she said sounded like me) calling her name out loud several times. She thought I was back and looked around the house but I wasn't here yet.

What was really strange was that the friend on the phone heard the voice calling for my daughter, too. Both of them were freaked out and my daughter was so scared she was getting ready to go to her friend's house when I got home.

These are true stories.

Happy Halloween!!

39 posted on 10/31/2004 1:34:50 AM PDT by Freedom Dignity n Honor
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To: Freedom Dignity n Honor; John Robinson
Oh yeah. This isn't a ghost story but maybe paranormally related.

And I'd appreciate any help in finding the post here on FR that I'm about to talk about. I have searched and searched for it but can't find it. Maybe John Robinson would help me. It would probably only take him a few minutes to find it. I was using the nick chantal7 then but changed to this nick which I feel is more appropriate for me and this forum.

The thread had something only periphally to do with the Clinton's. It was about one of their cohorts, if I remember right..or maybe about Bill's brother.

Anyway, I was griping about Bush not doing anything about the Clinton's and their band of trolls and crooks and how no one should be above the law, even a President, etc....and this thread was in the spring or summer of 2001. Most likely, July or August of 2001.

On the last paragraph I wrote something to the effect, " / end of rant. But seriously, does anyone else get the feeling that that the Bush Administration has their minds on something else? Like maybe there is a danger to our country that they are very concerned about and keeping their eyes on? Maybe from an outside source and maybe that's why they are letting the prior admin get away with everything?

I just had a feeling that something was wrong. We all later learned that the terrorist chatter had picked up drastically that spring and summer. The government knew it, but not what, when, who, or where.

40 posted on 10/31/2004 1:03:31 AM PST by Freedom Dignity n Honor
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