Posted on 10/28/2004 6:13:42 PM PDT by ClintonBeGone
Apprentice Ping for tonight. Apparently there is suppose to be some good fireworks in the board room
I for one enjoyed seeing Ivana go last night....I knew as soon as she did her first *flash*, Carolyn would show her discorn....very unprofessional....I think this game is Kevin's to lose....Kelly made a few stupid statements last night and the blondes just don't have what it takes...
Troy and Nick were wonderful, natural salesmen. Terrific personalities. I miss them! No one on this Apprentice has half their moxie.
As much as I enjoyed watching Ivana, I never saw her as a winner, and last night she richly deserved the boot.
I've thought for weeks that the game is Kelly's to lose. He moved closer to a loss last night, didn't work very hard at sales, and was a total idiot in the boardroom.
Meanwhile, Jen is moving up. She'll definitely make it to the final two. Kelly has had more success, but she's playing a very good and perhaps better game. If this were a brain-power contest, she'd win it hands down. But it's not.
Kevin is good in many ways, Sandy too. But I don't see either of them in the final competition. The upcoming interviews will knock them down. Kelly and Jen will make it to the finals, IMHO, and Jen may take it all.
Remember, this time the prize is a "job with Trump," not "running a Trump company." Big difference. I wonder why. Perhaps the producers thought that having less powerful contestants than last time would attract a larger audience. If so, they were wrong.
Meanwhile, Bill Rancic is looking good and doing well. A very high-powered guy. No one in the current crop gets close to the constellation of executive qualities he has.
I loved Troy last season and hoped he would win, but Trump has a thing for college educations and correct me if Im wrong, Sandy doesn't have one....Kevin has strong points in this area.....Jen, I can't remember one thing she has really contributed to in this season and I don't see Trump picking her....Kelly screwed up last night in the boardroom, until that moment I thought Kelly had it all locked up.
Wow.....very astute observations and I agree with almost all of them...btw...I was just at the grocery store and that candy bar sells for $0.48....LOL
Damn good candy bars too. My wife was going crazy trying to calm me down when they were tossing the rejects in the trash.
I wonder if they make them with peanut M&M's......I wonder if the plant employees get to take the rejects home?
It goed back to jumping in on the Levi's size-wheel idea. Ivana really took that personally.
I agree with everyone who said that the girls had a big advantage in this task. But Ivana, as PM, should have reigned in Kevin. These people all seem to not be very good at managing people. And that is what business (and life) is all about.
I am rooting for Kevin, but sadly, I think Kelly will be the winner. If Jen wins, it will prove this show is NOT about getting the best candidate.
“I still think Trump will have some doubts about Kelly after his "price wasn't important" remark.
You are spot on there without a doubt. Kelly played it too safe IMO for the task. It was obvious that personal feelings and stereotypes were clouding his judgment. I guess he has never grasped the whole "It's not personal it just business" idea. Ivana was terrible leader on this project and all her flaws came out. On his way to the boardroom he must have drank a very tall glass of stupid. When he said “price wasn’t important” I wish they had instant replay or a flash back scene to the QVC episode of Pamela saying the same thing and getting fired for it for him to watch. Then to make the absurd charge the he, Kevin, and Ivana were the strongest three in the game was a “Maria in Denial Moment” if I ever saw one. At that point I was waiting for him to put on a pound of mascara and start strobe blinking at 3000 blinks per second and even at that I don’t think he could keep up with Maria. You could tell what Carolyn, George, and Donald were all thinking: “Hey Kelly wake up!!! You are in the boardroom and your team LOST big time!!!!” I loved it when Trump slammed him up side the head with the “Well If that is so. Then why are you three in the boardroom?” A truly priceless Kodak moment if there ever was one.
Kevin also found the stupid dispensers and drank heavily by just sitting there and not defending himself. It only dawned on him that he could be the one going home when Carolyn said “Are going to defend yourselves or are you just waiting for one of you to get fired?” That had to be a scary "Wake up call" for him to then realize that he had better get in the game and quit the I going in there be nice to you Ivana strategy.
As far as the interviews go I am still undecided. I’m leaning toward Kevin and Kelly but Sandy and Jen could surprise me again.
Ivanna's gimmick backfired on her. One could tell by the look on Carolyn's face that The Donald would not approve of it. Knew right then Ivanna would be fired. You could tell Ivanna was trying to cover her butt, so to speak, in the boardroom. She much too defensive.
Ivana lied like a dog(no pun intended) on that in the boardroom because Jen is (1-0). Jen was PM on the Dog Care episode and she beat Wes. Ivana was on Jen's team. It just shows how out of touch with reality that Ivana had become with her "Hate Jen" obsession.
ROTFLOL!!! Good one. Yeah she definitely was a day late and dollar short on that. She has to really feel stupid. Here she was yanking her skirt off for men and all she had to show for it was $500.00. That had to be super humiliation for her in not being able to to beat Jen.
She's only been PM once? Talk about playing it safe. She shouldn't make the final two for that reason alone. Hang back, let others take the risks, that's the Bill Strategy indeed.
Ivana fell prey to the same jealous madness that infected Andy. The show isn't all about beating someone its about impressing Donald in the boardroom. Look how many times Bill's team lost last season. Conversely look at how many times Amy won. The only task you have to win is your last one.
She's only been PM once? Talk about playing it safe. She shouldn't make the final two for that reason alone. Hang back, let others take the risks, that's the Bill Strategy indeed.
Ivana fell prey to the same jealous madness that infected Andy. The show isn't all about beating someone its about impressing Donald in the boardroom. Look how many times Bill's team lost last season. Conversely look at how many times Amy won. The only task you have to win is your last one.
You are absolutely right about this crop of “Apprentices”. In the first season all the players were serious sharks with hyper-type-A personalities as opposed to this season. The first show and the last three shows were the only ones were the groups have got really creative IMHO. They were all a little late in bringing their A-game if you ask me.
Hey Jen is (1-0) and Kwame was (1-2) going into the final 4 so yeah she has a good a chance as any of them. She doesn’t get flustered and she keeps her eye on the ball. Kelly is (3-0) but in the Bridal competition all he had to do was stay out of Sandy’s way and he would get the win. So it could be argued that Sandy has three wins also instead of just two. Kevin has 2 wins but one of his is because Maria blew the budget for the other team not because of his leadership skills. From last season we learned it is not necessarily how many wins one has but how they conduct themselves under pressure in the boardroom and in the interviews. So Jen does have a big advantage going into the final 4 with her attitude right now. But in the final two a clear win is a must have.
False, I guess you missed where Trump told them to hurry up and make a decision, because they kept discussing who would lead. If Jen didn't want to lead, the decision would have been quick. Some of the Jen-hate reminds me of the reflexive anti-Bush hate, and Ivana got so wrapped up in her obsessive jealousy that she totally lost her cool and her default reaction to any problem was to insert 'Its all Jen's fault". Which will make it even more fun to see the Jen-haters go nuts when she wins the whole thing.
Sandy's run has been enjoyable, but I get the sense she's bumping at her current ceiling now. Kevin seems decent and hard-working, but like Pam he just seems to keep making too many bad decisions. Kelly originally looked to be the one to beat, but many of his boardroom comments last night (especially since he was under immunity) may have really hurt him and he's coasted a good bit when under immunity. He'd probably be Carolyn's pick, but I get the sense that George doesn't care for him. So my guess is that Jen is the most likely to make the final 2, Kelly second most likely but Sandy could be a surprise, and Kevin has no shot. Jen's biggest weakness is that she's only led one task, but she should excel in the interviews and seems to be a good manager. I think many are overestimating the importance of creativity for the job these candidates are interviewing for. You can hire a design team to be creative, but it is much harder to outsource some of the other leadership skills she brings to the table.
Unlike many of the lame rewards, this prize was fine, they got a getaway trip to Chicago in a corporate jet(how often does Sandy get to do that?) and met with last year's winner. Consider that the show was filmed on an intense schedule with 3 tasks and firings a week, the interviews would start tomorrow or the day after, and the final 4 candidates had to now shift from teamwork to individual battles to win a position working with Trump. Thus the trip probably was a real morale-booster to give them a taste of what is within their grasp, of what they have been working so hard for. Yeah, the Matt Lauer look-alike had some pretty generic advice, but he's also accomplished what they are on the brink of, so at this stage(unlike say after task 4,5,6) it probably was a better prize than dining on the Queen Mary(which was the best reward after the free jewelry.)
BTW, Trump didn't 'set' Raj up, because other than the Chris exception he doesn't know who will be leading the teams when he announces them.
Oh yeah, just wanted to point out that moral-relativist Ivana grew up in Little Rock, Arkansas.
I think the job working directly with Trump on day to day basis would be a better prize because one gets to see him and his key people in action and is better able to discover what it takes to run a billion dollar business and to see what does work and what doesn't work first hand. Plus they get to network with people on a daily basis that they probably would never in a life time have access too. Don’t get me wrong Bill definitely landed a once in a life time job that will benefit him in more than just monetary ways for years to come but being in the middle of the action with the main man for me would be more fun.
Except when they sold ice cream in bow ties earlier in the season. Remember? Jenn and Sandy remembered and dressed themselves in matching outfits, presenting the "uniform appearance" that Donald had praised the ice-cream men for.
Jenn & Sandy's trip to Chicago was a terrific prize, IMHO. A fancy dinner is just another fancy dinner, but traveling on Trump's corporate jet and probably by limo from airport to town is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. Heady, very heady.
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