Posted on 08/02/2004 3:01:44 PM PDT by conservator
Hello people. What I am about to say may be painful but please bear me out.
When I first came to this site I was horrified. I saw only the posts of the neo-conservative extremists (bomb the arab, kill Islam, nuke the middle-east etc.)
I was mystified how such folks could exist. I decided to post comments to "test the waters" and get a feel for this site. As I did so I was banned numerous times. I testified if this site was anti-semantic (as naturally I thought this site was so far right to be anti-sematic) by making dubiosly anti-sematic posts. I was banned.
I tested to see how concerned this site was with domestic affairs of minorities, by posting that racial attacks should be branded as terrorist attacks. I was banned. I looked over the entire site and found numerous examples of people being banned for having slightly leftist viewpoints (care for labor, smaller military etc.)
I tested the waters again by reacting to a conservative about the issue of fear of alienation by pointing to the fact that everyone here is an alien. I made my reply as vitrolic as some of the language I have seen here .I was banned again.
Now here's where I went wrong:
I decided to infiltrate what I saw as the conservative ranks by making a few far-right conservative viewpoints about several issues. Nothing happened. I decided to try and saterize and degrade the conservative image by saying wild and nasty comments to anyone that seemed even slightly to the leftof extreme conservativism. I accused Kerry of being a communist and people who drove SUVs as terrorists. Nothing happened.
I realized that I was now in a dangerous situation, as it seemed that ultra-conservative viewpoints were embraced. Some of them, such as, racial profiling, and unanounced searches, I think as profoundly un-american and a threat to our very society. I ecided to try and influence the website or at least some of it.
I decided that the only way to correct some of these viewpoints would be to infiltrate the party and change it from the inside with subtlety. Meeting with other conservatives to form a grassroots campaign of change of the conservative viewpoint, and perspective.
But then something strange happened. Although I decided I did not like some of the views I did like the people. Even the angry ones who wanted to nuke the middle east, because as I commented..they are only human. Misguidd perhaps but human nonetheless. I also noticed a lot of people were Christian. Don't be shocked, but I also am a Christian. I was baptized last November on the 30th, and obviously..as you an see from this post..I have some growing to do.
Then my conscience hit me. Although I don't feel particularly bad about not believing people who drive SUVs are terrorists or that I don't think that Kerry is a danger to the free world, I do feel about the deception. Particularly the Christians here who warmly reached to me. How could I deceive them...even in something as important as my viewpoint? I had no right and God would hold me acountable, hence this public apology.
In all honesty my head is bowed in shame for having deceived you all. I am sorry to everyone and even this website, for deeiving and lieing about what I have done. I asked forgiveness from God and I hope that you, who are reading, to will forgive me and remember that everyone makes mistakes.
Please I urge all of you do not go and clamp down now on anyone who has vaguely different viewpoints from the mainstream. Variety is not only the spice of life but it is lifebreathing and important for to avoid things like "group-think" and other aberations of thought where a group of people think exactly the same thing.
As for my actual views: I have never been a Democrat or Republican. I cannot fit in either a my views onflict with a lot of things.
I believe that abortion should be criminalized but I don't believe in taking away the right to do it. I believe that stem cell research is wrong but if people should wish to do it they should fae the consequences. I know that, that winds up in defacto law against it, and I understand that.
Choice is so vitally important in our country. A man has a right to kill another man. He also has a right to go to jail for it. A woman has a right to an abortion. She also has a right to jail. We can impose punishment, but we should never impose choice. God gave us a chance to do wrong. He did not take it away. However when we did wrong we were and are punished. That's how our society should work too.
I believe that it's okay to have the Bible in school, but I don't believe in making students pray, and I think forcing the Bible out of everywhere is wrong.
I believe this current war is wrong. I don't think Iraq had anything to do with 9/11. However I believe intervention is needed in the Sudan. In general I believe killing is wrong. I would do it to protect my family or an innocent were threatened and my nation if we were invaded, but God help me if I think it's right. It's wrong and damnable and just because I would do it or my country did it does not make it ok.
I believe in love of your countrymen and repect for your country. I don't believe in loving anything above God. Jesus is the Alpha and Omega in my mind..All the more reason I am ashamed of what I have done.
I think President Bush is a clutz. I don't think he is evil. He is just alittle out of touch.
I don't believe gays should marry. Technically I don't think they exist. Homosexuality is just another point on aline of sexual aberations. If they wish to marry let'em. They will fsce punishment for their actions later. Choice should never be restricted. If a man wants to marry for hi dog go ahead. Just don't tell me what you do is ok.
I truly believe Hip Hop is a destructive influence. I truly hate it, the movement, but not the people.
Arabs..::shrugs:: they are doomed for destruction. It is foretold in the book of Obidiah, I think. All the sons of Edom are in for it. Do I believe then it's right to kill them? No way. Is it okay to profile them. Not a chance. Would I defend one in the street if I saw one being attacked with unfair odds? You better believe it. I would do it for anybody. Do I think it is right for Palestinians to attak Israelies? Nope. Do I think it's ok for Israelites to knock down their houses and kill Arabs? No way. I respect israelites. They are the chosen people, the most favored. That don't mean I approve all of what they do.
Do I like terrorists? Nope. It is right to kill them? Nope. Is it right to lock em up for eleventy billion years. Yup.
Okay that's it for now. I have to go leave now for class.
Agin my heartfelt apologies to everyone.
Conservator over and out.
What, exactly, is "anti-semantic?" Are you meaning to say that you didn't think we paid attention to fine detail here on FR?
Here, I'll say this politely.
Don't let the screen door hit you on the derriere on the way out.
Bump!
Where are the Viking Kitties?
I read your entire post and came away confused. You seem to be conflicted in your belief system as there are so many contradictions in your post I could not keep up with them.
Your above statement is just an example. Does that statement actually make sense to you? If you can be arrested and prosecuted for something then you obviously don’t have a right to do it.
I think you are confusing rights with abilities among other things.
Had a rough five whole days?
Our home page clearly states that this is a conservative website.
If you got nailed because of a post, it was because you did something or posted something that was disrepectful.
I've gotten into flame wars with pretty much everyone without ever getting a thread pulled.
Get your head on straight, then feel free to join in.
Psst....over here. And bring everybody else whose name I couldn't cut and paste off of another ZOT thread.
Thats a left wing view not a right wing view.
I have a confession you guys, and I feel terrible.
I'm not really a dog.
I'm a married father of three children, all of them human.
Please pray for me.
But timpad, he says he is sorry to everyone and even this website, for deeiving and lieing.
Give the poor kid a break.
My name is conservator and I'm a troll.
Save the pous for someone who cares!
I hate you for that.
(I warned you it would get worse :-)....)
"I decided to infiltrate what I saw as the conservative ranks by making a few far-right conservative viewpoints about several issues. Nothing happened. I decided to try and saterize and degrade the conservative image by saying wild and nasty comments to anyone that seemed even slightly to the leftof extreme conservativism. I accused Kerry of being a communist and people who drove SUVs as terrorists. Nothing happened.
I realized that I was now in a dangerous situation, as it seemed that ultra-conservative viewpoints were embraced."
Tell me, how did it feel to be in MORTAL DANGER?
And how ever did you HIDE from the NINJA MONKIES and Killer Bunnies roaming the halls?
Did'ya have to sneak into the building?
OOOh, sounds so Veeery brave!
It isn't the WORDING of your respondseses that gets you smackeded down, TP, it's that he knows peoples do it all the time, he sees them.
Like dead people, or stooopid ones.
So he felt compelled to respondes to all of us on this thread and warn us to mark our time and our cards.
Please find a dictionary.
You do not have a right to murder (which is what you are describing here). Nor do you have a right to "go to jail".
You lack a basic understanding of the English language and I believe that this is where most of your problems lie.
Words mean things. You don't grasp that concept.
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