Doctor, mother, and son:
I can only wonder: Who was the father?
Posted on 07/01/2004 10:33:38 AM PDT by Sweet_Sunflower29
Phoenix police arrested a Phoenix ice cream vendor Tuesday in connection with raping and impregnating a 9-year-old girl he befriended on his sales route, said police Sgt. Randy Force.
Adrian Gonzalez, 24, was arrested at his home at 4621 E. Hubbell St. and booked into Maricopa County’s Madison Street Jail in Phoenix on suspicion of two counts each of kidnapping and sexual misconduct with a minor, with a dangerous crimes against children classification, Force said.
On different occasions Gonzalez drove brown-andwhite vans in the area of 43rd Avenue and McDowell Road, near where the girl lived. Gonzalez befriended the girl and her siblings, and got to know her mother well enough to persuade her to let the girl accompany him on his route, Force said.
Several sexual acts occurred in the van, Force said.
"This subject intimidated the girl into silence by telling her he would kill her siblings and kill her mother if she told," he said.
The possible abuse came to light after the girl complained to a friend of what was later determined to be a pregnancy-related illness. The girl took a home pregnancy test and later informed the police of the rape, Force said. The pregnancy was confirmed by police, Force said.
The rape was reported to have happened in April or May, Force said.
Police fear there could be other victims.
"There could be other children out there that are just too scared to say anything," Force said.
Doctor, mother, and son:
I can only wonder: Who was the father?
Which child? BOTH children are innocent. Sadly one may be in physical jeopardy to carry the other. A 9 year old little girl, unless she is very large for her age, isn't likely to be able to physically carry this child to term. I would also wonder whether or not her hormonal balances and such would be enough to even promote healthy growth in the unborn. Emotionally, this child is traumatized. Would you ask that she be even more so by enduring pregnancy and childbirth? I am anti abortion. I mean rabidly so. But, I would not ask that this child be forced to carry another. God forgive me if I am wrong.
"It was the repeated ice cream truck melody that possessed him..."
Was the tune "Turkey in the Straw?" That's the one favored in my part of the woods for treat vendors.
I agree
We have "The Entertainer" here.
It's a touch ironic as well: I happen to love sackcloth, and occasionally ash on myself while watching "Leave it to Beeber".
To: Protagorus Only!!!
cc: Laura Earl
Well when we make a reply it is considered fair game. Your question concerning whether the post belonged on FR or not opened you up to comment.
What I would recommend is that when you want only one person to answer, specify it up front.
My opinion is that half the things posted on a given day are questionable. But news is news. When I don't see a reason for a story I go look for a better story.
I got to go hunt or gather some lunch.
Later
PS, Laura Earl can be pretty mean and she packs a 9 mm too.
That was my question as well when I read the article. Heartbreaking.
I'd be right behind you.....with a bigger stick!
Abortion: Yes.
Death Penalty for Mr. Softy: Yes.
I think you've summed up the argument pretty well. I am also rabidly anti-abortion unless the life of the mother is in jeopardy. I guess I would have to say in this case that they should watch her very, very carefully. If she shows signs, as I well expect she might, that she is going to be in danger, then the unborn baby may have to be born before it is due. This is the toughest of all cases. Two children here you're trying to protect.
That's quite an assumption without really knowing the child at all. Of course the rape will haunt her. But so will the reality of the child -- whether born or aborted. You just cannot wish the baby away.
I suspected that, that's why I asked you to call her off.
BTW, it's PROTAGORAS
Scheeech
Some googling shows that she was raped and abused so much, there was no telling who the dad was... there was some suggestion that the reason she matured was because she was abused so much so young that the simulation caused her body to mature early. Disgusting, isn't it?
Valid questions. See my #91.
But I would leave aside the "emotional" issue as a consideration for abortion; that is the excuse for virtually all abortions.
I have unlimited compassion for this little girl. I just don't think we'll really help her by turning her from a victim into a victimizer. Punish the perpetrator. The baby isn't a perpetrator. The baby is the second victim.
Dan
I delivered a 10 year old when I was a 4th year medical student. She wasn't particularly large.
With no ill effects to baby or mother? HOW?
My thoughts exactly. This guy will go to prison, and I hope he has a BIG roommate by the name of Bubba.
OMG-that's horrible!
Of course. And in this case, given her age, that is an unfortunate possibility.
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