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Dimensional Door - Freeople Thread 16

Posted on 04/16/2004 6:37:21 PM PDT by Mo1



TOPICS: Dimensional Doorway; Freeoples
KEYWORDS: darkshearesmyhero; whoputthatthere
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To: Mo1

Well, maybe. But a lot of crooks have learned the firm handshake. LOL


4,181 posted on 06/08/2004 10:29:25 PM PDT by Conservababe
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To: restornu
I like shakiing hands with people it gives you a little idea of how real they are!

I agree .. I remember once years ago when I was working and shaking hands with a client ... he gave me the creeps

I guess I was right, because he went to jail for embezzlement

4,182 posted on 06/08/2004 10:29:49 PM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: Mo1

I think if you were buying or selling from a person you could feel how committed they are or a hint of being insincere.

I also think if there is no reason to be nervous or over heated you could since this person has a medical problem.


4,183 posted on 06/08/2004 11:10:57 PM PDT by restornu
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To: Mo1

I believe that it all a part of reading body language.


4,184 posted on 06/08/2004 11:15:37 PM PDT by restornu
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To: Mo1; All

Have a good night off to dream land!:)


4,185 posted on 06/08/2004 11:17:59 PM PDT by restornu
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To: restornu

Sweet Dreams Restie

I was just watching the Senate Intell hearing of today with Ascroft

The Dems are all worried about how we treat the terrorists that want to cut our throats

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1149827/posts

E-mail from Guantanamo Bay Good news a well-kept secret
The Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | Jun. 08, 2004 | Dom Giordano


Posted on 06/08/2004 11:58:15 AM EDT by Mo1


Dom Giordano

is a talk-show host with WPHT-AM (1210) and provides education reports for NBC-TV (Channel 10)

When you hear the words Guantanamo Bay, the words Abu Ghraib seem to echo back.

But I was in Guantanamo for three days last week, and I saw something very different. I concluded that, at Gitmo, we extract information from prisoners not by torture but by developing rapport with them. It involves amenities. Full rolls of toilet paper. Fruit baskets. A field trip barbecue. I talked to prisoners, visited cell blocks, surveyed their medical care, interviewed the base commander and chief interrogator on my show, and allowed callers to probe them with questions. My research extended to the officers who escorted me to breakfast and lunch - even to times when all parties were well lubricated at the Tiki Bar.

The leadership at Gitmo is much more disciplined and focused than the leadership of Maj. Gen. Janis Karpinski at Abu Ghraib appears to have been. Soldiers at Gitmo say they are repulsed by the photos and stories from Abu Ghraib. Senior staff told me of strict patrols of the prison to make sure all is being done properly.

Another great contrast with Abu Ghraib was the interrogator I met at Camp Delta. She was fluent in Arabic and talked about various ways she was able to reach prisoners. She's not leading anyone around in a dog collar.

One story probably summarized best what I saw at Gitmo. I was sitting in a chair in one of the interrogation rooms at Camp Delta when the chief interrogator told me the chair wheels were one of their greatest tools. Some sort of torture device? No: The wheels let interrogators slide in closely to bond with prisoners when they believe they are telling the truth and move away when they are lying.

This mentality is the legacy of Maj. Gen. Jeffrey Miller, who is accused of taking his "brutal" tactics from Gitmo to Iraq and causing the prison scandal. I can't know what Miller did in Iraq, but I think most of us would find the system he put in place in Gitmo as humane and fair treatment for captured Taliban and al-Qaeda members. In fact, a number of my listeners felt the treatment was too good for people we have reason to believe are among the worst of the terrorists.

This picture of humane treatment isn't being widely disseminated by other media sources. Their agenda seems to be that if they can't find a horror story, then there's no story to report. But it should be big news, to stand in contrast to Abu Ghraib.

Humane treatment works not only to get information but also to dissuade significant numbers of these guys away from their urges to attack and kill Americans. In fact, 144 prisoners have been sent back home and have been judged to be a threat to us no longer. I was amazed to consider that we are reaching good numbers of these former al-Qaeda and Taliban members.

I can't say whether the information they are getting at Gitmo is really helping to prevent attacks. I can say they are staying patient and positive.

At Gitmo, they are beginning to assemble military tribunals for four inmates. These were called for by President Bush and, if approved by the Supreme Court, will begin later this summer. This promises to put the American system of justice on view for all the world. For example, Osama bin Laden's driver is at Guantanamo. It will interest many people to know this man has a lawyer - a U.S. military officer who, as I found out, intends to mount a detailed and aggressive defense of his client.

So it's not that the American people can't handle the truth. It's that they are not getting enough of the truth. A visit to Guantanamo persuaded me that the truth is comforting.


4,186 posted on 06/08/2004 11:41:48 PM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: Mo1

Good article Mo.. Thanks.


4,187 posted on 06/09/2004 5:54:37 AM PDT by grannie9 (I live for today, 'cause I can't remember yesterday, and chances are tomorrow could suck.)
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To: All
The outside of the house is just about done. ;)

Etc.


4,188 posted on 06/09/2004 5:55:56 AM PDT by grannie9 (I live for today, 'cause I can't remember yesterday, and chances are tomorrow could suck.)
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To: All

More pics later if they don't bog down the thread.. ;)


4,189 posted on 06/09/2004 5:58:11 AM PDT by grannie9 (I live for today, 'cause I can't remember yesterday, and chances are tomorrow could suck.)
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To: grannie9

Veeeeeeeeery pretty gran. You bog down the thread, but who cares, it is worth it.


4,190 posted on 06/09/2004 6:24:05 AM PDT by Woliff
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To: Mo1
WAY KEWL!!!!
4,191 posted on 06/09/2004 6:24:48 AM PDT by null and void (In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is clearly delusional - He's SEEING things...)
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To: Mo1


Romans 12:20
Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.


4,192 posted on 06/09/2004 6:28:53 AM PDT by null and void (In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is clearly delusional - He's SEEING things...)
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To: null and void
"You'll be able to afford airfare to California?"

*Smooch*

4,193 posted on 06/09/2004 6:36:43 AM PDT by sweetliberty ("Good-night sweet prince, and flights of angels sing thee to thy rest.")
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To: Mo1
"Your boss is a Freeper too?"

Well, not that I know of, but she's pretty cool. Actually, I'm not likely to get to do too much FReeping, but at least I can check in every now and then and spend ny lunch hours here if I want to. It will be a lot better once I get my own computer assigned. Right now I'm having to share.

4,194 posted on 06/09/2004 6:39:27 AM PDT by sweetliberty ("Good-night sweet prince, and flights of angels sing thee to thy rest.")
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To: sweetliberty
*smootch* back...


4,195 posted on 06/09/2004 6:55:48 AM PDT by null and void (In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is clearly delusional - He's SEEING things...)
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To: sweetliberty

My yeaterday:

After moving less than half a block in 20 minutes (one block away from from Moscone), a bunch of bicyclists started riding between the cars, leader with a bull horn, shouting something about taking over the streets.

He had the horn pointed back wards so I didn't hear him coming. Durn! he got away!

However, I popped my door open in front of the third or so cyclist in the string. (I did look first to make sure he had room to stop).

He screams "You effin' clymer!!!" (OK, I cleaned it up a little, so sue me...)

I looked up smiled sweetly and said "That makes two of us..."

Totally messed them up. They had to stop and regroup. His buds split leaving him with two young "ladies" to protect him from the mean man in the car. Boo fricking hoo

I closed the door and he started to pass by and continued to berate me. When he was adjacent to the door I popped it open at him, not to hit him, but to persuade him to move along.

He darn near fell off his bike trying to dodge me.

"We're going to call 911!!!"

"Don't bother, I'll call for you" which I did. (The line was busy)

He and the two chicks decided that it was past their collective bedtimes or something and split.

Felt GOOD...


4,196 posted on 06/09/2004 6:59:24 AM PDT by null and void (In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is clearly delusional - He's SEEING things...)
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To: null and void

YESTERDAY! dagnabit!


4,197 posted on 06/09/2004 7:00:06 AM PDT by null and void (In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is clearly delusional - He's SEEING things...)
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To: null and void
Lovely neighborhood, Nully.

I've been here less than 3 days and already have a caseload! Yikes! I don't even complete training for 6 months. They are seriously overloaded. We are talking crash course here.

4,198 posted on 06/09/2004 7:14:24 AM PDT by sweetliberty ("Good-night sweet prince, and flights of angels sing thee to thy rest.")
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To: null and void

Way to go, nully!


4,199 posted on 06/09/2004 7:20:07 AM PDT by catpuppy (John Kerry! When hair is all that matters)
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To: Mo1
More bees, Mo?

Beekeepers Remove 700,000 Bees From Florida Man's Home...

4,200 posted on 06/09/2004 7:23:23 AM PDT by catpuppy (John Kerry! When hair is all that matters)
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