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Prophet Mohammed Was A Lunatic, Just Like Al-Sadr
4-7-04 | Pinochet

Posted on 04/07/2004 10:52:23 AM PDT by pinochet

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To: monday
name a christian group that embraces Jim Jones, his teachings or his actions... name one.
61 posted on 04/08/2004 12:53:11 AM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (the madridification of our election is now officially underway.)
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To: Cronos
didn't you see the equivocating...
killing muslims killing christians killing muslims killing christians...

just like all the islamics have done since 9-11...

just like they do everytime a bus bomber kills a load of teenage jooz. "both parties are wrong" crap.

what does that tell us about the equivocators every time we hear it?
they are self identified, islamic supporters and apologists.
62 posted on 04/08/2004 12:56:25 AM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (the madridification of our election is now officially underway.)
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To: Skywarner
We think alike....i'm with you..
63 posted on 04/08/2004 12:58:06 AM PDT by teldon30
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To: Cronos
"Why do they hate us?" or "Why do you think all muslims want to kill america and you americans?"

is usually the beginning of the islamakazi question and brain washing answer session...

puke.
64 posted on 04/08/2004 1:01:20 AM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (the madridification of our election is now officially underway.)
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To: Cronos
But I don't care a fig if I pronounce it "correctly" -- He was a bad boy and has caused more trouble in the world than any single human being, with only Ghengis Khan, Hitler, Stalin and Mao even in the running as equivalent butchers. Oh, I suppose you could Marx on the list, too. But Marx personally wasn't quite the pond scum Mahomet was. And, after all, who knows how the old pedophile said it himself. Language, even Arabic, changes its pronunciation over the centuries.
65 posted on 04/08/2004 2:43:53 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
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To: Cronos
Mr. Smith, have you read the kuran? Not just parts of it, but the WHOLE thing. At times when Prophet Mohammed was introducing the religion of islam, he was constantly brutally attacked. When it was time for him to go pray these "mushriqueens" would attack him as he would walk to the mosque(muslim church). So when the kuran says "kill the mushriqeens where ever you find them"...by that it means "the ones that do harm". If someone attacks you mr.smith, wouldnt you attack back? or would you let them beat you till you die? Prophet mohammed never retaliated when he would get attack but rather take a beating and at the end of the day, ask allah to forgive the ones that attacked him.
66 posted on 04/16/2004 9:12:24 PM PDT by amanda99
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To: amanda99
At times when Prophet Mohammed was introducing the religion of islam, he was constantly brutally attacked.

He was attacked because he led a group of bandits (to put it nicely) that attacked Meccan trading caravans. He was attacked because he promoted violence and because he attacked them, he was no victim, no lamb to the slaughter, he was more an aggressor.
67 posted on 04/17/2004 3:59:43 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4!)
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To: amanda99
When it was time for him to go pray these "mushriqueens" would attack him as he would walk to the mosque(muslim church).

a mosque is NOT the same as a church, a church is a community, not just a place, a mosque on the other hand is directed towards the meteorite in Mecca, it is a building.
68 posted on 04/17/2004 4:00:59 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4!)
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To: amanda99
So when the kuran says "kill the mushriqeens where ever you find them"...by that it means "the ones that do harm".

IF the Koran meant to say kill the infidels that do harm, why doesn't it say that? No, it says kill ALL infidels wherever you find them.
69 posted on 04/17/2004 4:01:56 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4!)
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To: amanda99; CatoRenasci; Robert_Paulson2; hopespringseternal; RussianConservative; Wolfhound777; ...
Regarding your post #66

Prophet mohammed never retaliated when he would get attack but rather take a beating and at the end of the day, ask allah to forgive the ones that attacked him.

Mohammed never retaliated -- he was the INSTIGATOR. Mad Mo slaughtered 800 Jews in Medina. The reason Mo gave in the quran?
The angel Gabriel came to the Prophet to tell him that the Jewish tribe of Nadir was plotting to kill him. The Prophet told the Jews: "Leave your land and take all that your camels can carry, except your arms and your armour. "And had it not been that Allah had decreed Banishment for them, He certainly would have Punished them in this world: and in the Here-after They shall have the Punishment of the Fire." (59:3) Allah revealed that, as it had been a bloodless victory, all that the Jews had left behind belonged to the Prophet and that he was to share it with the poor. Now the Emigrants were financially independent of the Helpers.

The Jews made their way to Khaybar further north in the Hejaz and determined to get back their homes. To show that his influence could reach as far as Khaybar, Muhammad sent some men there to kill the aged Jew Atu Rafi. They struck him in his bed.

One night the army of the Confederates melted away. At noon on the same day, Gabriel came to the Prophet telling him: "O Messenger of God. The Angels have not laid down their arms, and return from pursuing the foe. God... commandeth thee to go against the Qurayzah..."26

A thousand Muslims besieged the fortress of the Bani Qurayzah for 25 days when the Jews eventually opened their gates and threw themselves on Muhammad's mercy. They agreed to a chieftain of a Medinan tribe, Sa'd ibn Muadh, judging them for their treachery to the young Islamic state. The Mosaic law applied to the Jews and their punishment should have been total extermination: "thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth" (Deuteronomy 20, 16). Allah was more merciful than Jehovah however (33:26) and Sa'd's adjudication was to slay the men and take the women and children into captivity. The Prophet was pleased and replied to Sa'd: "Thou hast judged with the judgement of God from above the seven heavens."

In the morning Muhammad ordered long, deep and narrow trenches to be dug in the market place. The seven hundred or so men from Bani Qurayzah were brought in small groups to kneel beside the trench. Then the younger and stronger believers cut off the Jews' heads each with a stroke of a sword. The last to die were beheaded by torchlight.

The women, children and property were divided amongst those who had taken part in the siege. The Bani Nadir ransomed many of their kin but Muhammad kept for himself, as concubine, a beautiful Jewess named Rayhanah.

I suppose Mo was just being nice and not retaliating

70 posted on 04/17/2004 4:09:32 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4!)
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To: amanda99; CatoRenasci; Robert_Paulson2; hopespringseternal; RussianConservative; Wolfhound777; ...
Already, when Aisha (the daughter of Abu Bakr, Mohammad's closest friend and unquestioning ally) was about 4-5 years old Muhammad started dreaming of a union with her [Ref: SAHIH BUKHARI, 5:235] and he wasted no time in realizing his dreams, inspite of the fact that object of his dreams was a mere child. Perhaps you want to assume that it is "normal" for a 50+ year old man to dream of marrying a 4-5 old child, and then ACTUALLY ask for her hand at 6?

Is it normal for an oversexed old man (Muhammad had over 9 wives and concubines) to dream of a union with a 4-5 year old girl?

When she was 6, Muhammad asked Abu Bakr, Aisha's father, for her hand. Abu Bakr thought it was improper, because, as he said "I am your brother"; Muhammad brushed aside Abu Bakr's reservation by saying that it was perfectly lawful for him to marry Aisha [ Ref: SAHIH BUKHAR I7:18].

...So, Aisha was betrothed to Muhammad, and 3 years later, i.e. when Aisha was 9, the marriage was consummated. And Muhammad was 53 then [SAHIH BUKHARI 5:236,7:64,7:65,7:88] .

Aisha became Muhammad's favourite wife. And the sexuality in the relationship was predominant [ SAHIH BUKHARI .1.270, 3:36, 7:6, 3:148, 3:149, 3:150, 7:142, IbnSa'd 1pg165 ]. Later, Aisha was to be called the "mother of believers".

And that's your "prophet" Amanda

71 posted on 04/17/2004 4:11:37 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4!)
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To: amanda99
M uch has been spoken about the inhuman treatment of women in Islam. If one wants to know the reason behind this, one has to closely examine Mohammed's personal life. As far as women are conecerned, they were just objects of sexual desire for Prophet Mohammed.

Here I expose the insatiable sexual appetite that Mohammed possessed. This goes to show that among others, one of the main reasons for forming this insidious religion, Islam, was so that sex was freely available to the male followers in the name of Allah. As I have already proved in my article, Wondrous Treatment of Women In Islam, the Quran justifies treating a woman as nothing but an object for sexual desire and sometimes even an ordinary object would be treated better. Suras in the Quran seem to pop up conveniently, so that Mohammed can justify his perverted sexual actions. For example, when Mohammed wanted his adopted son's wife, he suddenly got a revelation from Allah declaring it right to take another man's wife. When he wanted to stop his wives from quarreling or to accept more wives, he got a quick revelation for it. My above points are illustrated from the verses taken from Sura 33.

(Sura 33:28) "O Prophet! Say to thy consorts: 'If it be that ye desire the life of this world and its glitter then come! I will provide for your enjoyment and set you free in a handsome manner.'

(Sura 33:30) "O Consorts of the Prophet if any of you were guilty of evident unseemly conduct, the punishment would be doubled to her, and that is easy for Allah."

(Sura 33:37) "....Fear Allah. Then when Zayad had dissolved his marriage with her (Zainab) we joined her in marriage to thee: in order that there may be no difficulty to the believers in the matter of marriage of the wives of their adopted sons...."

The prophet's interactions with women, his insatiable lust for lascivious ladies, his lecherous behaviour with his wives and concubines are components that form the model of a true muslim. The prophet is the perfect muslim man for all devout muslims as he is the one whom Allah chose to reveal the Quran to. And because he is the perfect man it is every muslim's duty to follow him. For example, they cannot eat pork because Mohammed disliked it, they have to grow a beard like he had, they have to loot and kill like he did and likewise they have to molest and treat women inhumanly as he did!

  1. The "great" Mohammed, the founder of this "fabulous" faith was married to Khadija Bibi who was his employer and 15 years his senior. At that time Mohammed was 25 years old. He was Khadija Bibi's 3rd husband. Khadija Bibi was a rich widow when she married Mohammed. For the first time in his life, Mohammed enjoyed a luxurious life.

    This shows the parasitic nature of Mohammed who married his employer so that he can live a rich life without putting in a single day's work.

  2. Khadija Bibi died when Mohammed was 49 years old. Between the ages of 49 and 63 the "great prophet" married at least 11 times.

    This shows how he treated the institution of marriage. For him, women were nothing but objects for sexual fulfillment. Marrying at least 11 women in 14 years throws light on his insatiable sexual appetite. Read on about the "greatness" of this prophet.

  3. Among his many other wives Mohammed also married a 6 year old baby, Ayesha. She was his favourite wife.

    This marriage is a clear proof that his pedophilic tendency started manifesting itself after Khadija's death, because when she was alive he did not want to offend her because all the wealth belonged to her.

  4. The prophet said that, "the woman can be married for religion, her fortune, or her beauty. So marry one for the religion" (Abu Issa al-Tarmidi, Sunan al- Tarmidi, Medina n.d., p.275, B: 4, H:1092)

    Therefore, according to the Prophet the woman is either a creature who will be subjected to brutal conversion to Islam, a golden goose or a sexual plaything. Her virtues, intelligence or personality do not matter. But Mohammed did not stop there. He recommends all muslims to marry "one for the religion". Now what does this mean ? It means that use the institution of marriage to convert people to Islam. Now you know why so many Muslim men marry non-muslims and convert them to Islam. It also shows what high regard Islam has for the sacred institution of Marriage.

  5. In many occasions Mohammed did not even spare women who were originally allotted to other soldiers of his tribe after gaining a victory in War. One such woman was Safia Bint Huyay. This Jewish woman was captured by lecherous muslim invaders after the Jews were brutally murdered by Mohammed. According to a Quranic Sura (8:41) four fifths of any booty or spoil that is won after murdering the non-believers, is distributed to the barbaric invaders. In Islam, women of other religion are also considered as booty, so Safiya bint Huyay was allotted to a soldier called Dahia. But when Mohammed the ascetic heard of her 'incomparable beauty', he sent for Dahiya, paid him Safiya's price and married her. (Ibn Saad, al-Tabaqat, pp. 120-123).

  6. Safiya Bint Huyway was just one of the numerous Jewish women who became prey to Mohammed's insatiable sexual desire. Regardless of his participation in these barbaric raids Mohammed was alloted 1/5 of the booty as prescribed in the Quran, Sura 8:41. Rayhana Bint Zayd was another Jewish woman, whom Mohammed captured after her tribe was totally butchered. She was known to be a woman of immense beauty. Mohammed kept her as a concubine. (Ibid., p. 129)

    During Mohammed's time a lot of barbaric wars were instigated by the muslims and Mohammed was always the receiver of at least one fifths of the booty. This booty included captured women and children. One can imagine how many women were made into concubines for Prophet Mohammed's carnal pleasure and how many children were his victims.

  7. Maria the Copt from Egypt, was another concubine of Mohammed. She bore him a son, Ibrahim, who died in infancy. The Prophet's desire for Maria was so strong that it led him to violate another of his ideals: "That a man should be just in his dealings with his wives. A man should keep strictly to the rotation schedule and not have intercourse with a wife, even if he so desired."

    Hafsa, one of the Prophet's wives, however, caught him having intercourse with Maria in Safiya's room. 'O Prophet of God, in my room and in my day!' fulminated Safiya angrily. Afraid of the anger of his other wives, and especially of his most beloved Ayesha, he promised Hafsa never to touch Maria again if she would keep the incident secret (Ibid., p. 213). But she spoke out, and the Prophet immediately received orders from God to retract his promise to Safiya; he then resumed relations with Maria (Sura 66:3).

    Maria's power over the Prophet is best described in Ayesha's words: "I never was as jealous as I was of Maria again. That is because she was a very beautiful, curly haired woman. The Prophet was very attracted to her. In the beginning, she was living near us and the Prophet spent entire days and nights with her until we protested and she became frightened." (Ibn Saad, al-Tabaqat, p. 212)

    The Prophet then decided to transfer Maria to a more secure dwelling far from his legitimate wives and kept seeing her inspite of their pressure.

  8. Another woman that the Prophet married for satisfying his sexual desires was Juwariya Bint al-Harith who was according to Ayesha's description, 'so beautiful that whoever caught a glimpse of her fell in love with her.' (Ibid. p.117)
    Ayesha's jealousy is displayed again from the following quote: "The Prophet was in my room when Juwariya came to ask him about a contract. By Allah, I hated her when I saw her coming towards him. I knew that he was going to see what I saw (her beauty)." (Ibid)

  9. A unique instance of the effect of female beauty on the Prophet was that of Duba Bint Amr who 'was among the most beautiful of Arab women....her hair was long enough to cover all her body.'(Ibid., p. 153) Mohammed asked her son if he could marry his mother, but later retracted when he heard that Duba Bint Amr, although attractive, was aging.

    This shows that Mohammed was only interested in physical beauty and not in providing protection for widows or some other charitable cuase as the Muslims have been brain washed to believe.

  10. Mohammed's adopted son Zayed was married to Zainab, daughter of Jahsh. But one day the prophet "beheld in a loose undress, the beauty of Zainab, and burst forth into an ejaculation of devotion and desire. The servile, or greatful, freeman (Zayed) understood the hint and yielded without hesitation to the love of the benefactor."

    Mohammed was not satisfied with his own overflowing harem and had to marry his son's wife. His son being a devoted follower of the "great" prophet was more than happy to divorce his wife. What a great father-in-law Mohammed was, a model for all Islamic father-in-laws.

Muslim scholar and statesman, Ali Dashti gives the following list of women in Mohammed's life.

  1. Khadija
  2. Sawda
  3. Ayesha
  4. Omm Salama
  5. Hafsa
  6. Zainab (of Jahsh)
  7. Juwariya
  8. Omm Habiba
  9. Safia
  10. Maymuna (of Hareth)
  11. Fatima
  12. Hend
  13. Asma (of Saba)
  14. Zainab (of Khozayma)
  15. Habla
  16. Asma (of Noman)
  17. Maria
  18. Rayhana
  19. Omm Sharik
  20. Maymuna (not of Hareth)
  21. Zainab (third one)
  22. Khawla
  23. Duba

As a fitting punishment for all his heinous crimes against women, it was a Jewish woman who poisoned him in her rightful quest for revenge after the battle of Khaybar. During the last four years of his life, his health declined, epileptic fits became more frequent and his other infirmities increased. After living a life of rape, perversion, destruction and plunder, at the age of 62, Mohammed gasped his last breath on the lap of his 17 year old child bride Ayesha who watched him die a slow , long and horrible death.

72 posted on 04/17/2004 4:15:16 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4!)
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To: Cronos
Hay, you take group of murderous thugs and give them religious zeal too....now you have murderous fanatics who like booty...oh wait is it not what now happen in most prisons of the West?
73 posted on 04/17/2004 9:15:17 AM PDT by RussianConservative (Xristos: the Light of the World)
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To: monday
Ehh, Islam is young, only 1400 years, it grow out of violent phase, don't worry....once all world is in the House der Islam there is no need for House der Erharb (House of War...where all not Islam nations are)...so once all Islam can have final peace.
74 posted on 04/17/2004 9:17:38 AM PDT by RussianConservative (Xristos: the Light of the World)
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To: mrsmith
Yes, allow to just ignore 14 centuaries of limitless aggression, deception, blooding and conquest and slavery etc, just ignore all and Islam is Religion of Peace.
75 posted on 04/17/2004 9:19:28 AM PDT by RussianConservative (Xristos: the Light of the World)
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Some of you fail to realize the time these marriages were taken. This was a while back and to critisize who he married without knowing the whole thing is idiotic. I've read most of your guys's responses and most are just copying and pasting from the internet, thanks but I've read all of this, and untill you've read the real thing, you have absolutely no right to critisize the religion of islam, or prophet mohammed's personal life for that matter.
76 posted on 04/17/2004 2:31:57 PM PDT by amanda99
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To: Cronos
"And that's your "prophet" Amanda"

Thank you for describing my prophet for me, but all you seem to do is find the negetivity in prophet mohammed when in fact, he did more good then bad. He gave people a religion to believe in, and that in itself is something mostly everyone in the world wants. Dont sit there and tell me that my prophet was bad, when all you do is judge him by what you hear, or read off of the internet, until you know the religion of islam you cant critisize it.
77 posted on 04/17/2004 2:38:26 PM PDT by amanda99
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To: amanda99
He gave people a religion to believe in, and that in itself is something mostly everyone in the world wants.

So did Hitler with equal murderous intent and outcome.

Dont sit there and tell me that my prophet was bad, when all you do is judge him by what you hear, or read off of the internet, until you know the religion of islam you cant critisize it.

Nope, I tell you your, "amanda's" prophet is bad because of
  1. The murderous words in the Koran, both when considered chrnologically and read separately
  2. Mad Mo's actions (lecherous and barbaric) in his lifetime
  3. His corruption of older sacred texts like the Bible.
  4. The inherent contradictions in the Koran (claiming the Bible to be sacred yet making silly mmistakes like substituting Ishmael for Isaac)
  5. his and his murderous followers killing of millions of Jews, Christians etc, subjugating them and makign them pay jaziya and kidnapping their first borns
  6. The revitalisation of his devilish word in the Wahabb movement and hte Islmaic revolution in Irn
  7. The slamic naitons persecution of the non-infected
  8. slamic infiltration of non-infected nations
  9. etc. etc.

78 posted on 04/19/2004 12:17:36 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4!)
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To: Cronos
How can you compare Hitler to Prophet Muhammed when they're nothing alike. Prophet Muhammed had a connection with god, Hitler just killed virtually everyone in his sight.
79 posted on 04/20/2004 8:32:14 PM PDT by amanda99
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To: amanda99
"Prophet Muhammed had a connection with god."

i mean, he says it again and again, and a prohet wouldn't lie about a think like that, now would he?

Amazing that this illiterate bandit would be the only one to have the correct versions of the Torah and the New Testament.

More proof, I suppose, that he was a prophet.
80 posted on 04/20/2004 9:01:18 PM PDT by epigone73
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