[amanda99]

Mr. Smith, have you read the kuran? Not just parts of it, but the WHOLE thing. At times when Prophet Mohammed was introducing the religion of islam, he was constantly brutally attacked. When it was time for him to go pray these "mushriqueens" would attack him as he would walk to the mosque(muslim church). So when the kuran says "kill the mushriqeens where ever you find them"...by that it means "the ones that do harm". If someone attacks you mr.smith, wouldnt you attack back? or would you let them beat you till you die? Prophet mohammed never retaliated when he would get attack but rather take a beating and at the end of the day, ask allah to forgive the ones that attacked him.

[Cronos]

At times when Prophet Mohammed was introducing the religion of islam, he was constantly brutally attacked.

He was attacked because he led a group of bandits (to put it nicely) that attacked Meccan trading caravans. He was attacked because he promoted violence and because he attacked them, he was no victim, no lamb to the slaughter, he was more an aggressor.

[Cronos]

When it was time for him to go pray these "mushriqueens" would attack him as he would walk to the mosque(muslim church).

a mosque is NOT the same as a church, a church is a community, not just a place, a mosque on the other hand is directed towards the meteorite in Mecca, it is a building.

[Cronos]

So when the kuran says "kill the mushriqeens where ever you find them"...by that it means "the ones that do harm".

IF the Koran meant to say kill the infidels that do harm, why doesn't it say that? No, it says kill ALL infidels wherever you find them.

[Cronos]

Regarding your post #66

Prophet mohammed never retaliated when he would get attack but rather take a beating and at the end of the day, ask allah to forgive the ones that attacked him.

Mohammed never retaliated -- he was the INSTIGATOR. Mad Mo slaughtered 800 Jews in Medina. The reason Mo gave in the quran?
The angel Gabriel came to the Prophet to tell him that the Jewish tribe of Nadir was plotting to kill him. The Prophet told the Jews: "Leave your land and take all that your camels can carry, except your arms and your armour. "And had it not been that Allah had decreed Banishment for them, He certainly would have Punished them in this world: and in the Here-after They shall have the Punishment of the Fire." (59:3) Allah revealed that, as it had been a bloodless victory, all that the Jews had left behind belonged to the Prophet and that he was to share it with the poor. Now the Emigrants were financially independent of the Helpers.

The Jews made their way to Khaybar further north in the Hejaz and determined to get back their homes. To show that his influence could reach as far as Khaybar, Muhammad sent some men there to kill the aged Jew Atu Rafi. They struck him in his bed.

One night the army of the Confederates melted away. At noon on the same day, Gabriel came to the Prophet telling him: "O Messenger of God. The Angels have not laid down their arms, and return from pursuing the foe. God... commandeth thee to go against the Qurayzah..."26

A thousand Muslims besieged the fortress of the Bani Qurayzah for 25 days when the Jews eventually opened their gates and threw themselves on Muhammad's mercy. They agreed to a chieftain of a Medinan tribe, Sa'd ibn Muadh, judging them for their treachery to the young Islamic state. The Mosaic law applied to the Jews and their punishment should have been total extermination: "thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth" (Deuteronomy 20, 16). Allah was more merciful than Jehovah however (33:26) and Sa'd's adjudication was to slay the men and take the women and children into captivity. The Prophet was pleased and replied to Sa'd: "Thou hast judged with the judgement of God from above the seven heavens."

In the morning Muhammad ordered long, deep and narrow trenches to be dug in the market place. The seven hundred or so men from Bani Qurayzah were brought in small groups to kneel beside the trench. Then the younger and stronger believers cut off the Jews' heads each with a stroke of a sword. The last to die were beheaded by torchlight.

The women, children and property were divided amongst those who had taken part in the siege. The Bani Nadir ransomed many of their kin but Muhammad kept for himself, as concubine, a beautiful Jewess named Rayhanah.

I suppose Mo was just being nice and not retaliating

[Cronos]

Already, when Aisha (the daughter of Abu Bakr, Mohammad's closest friend and unquestioning ally) was about 4-5 years old Muhammad started dreaming of a union with her [Ref: SAHIH BUKHARI, 5:235] and he wasted no time in realizing his dreams, inspite of the fact that object of his dreams was a mere child. Perhaps you want to assume that it is "normal" for a 50+ year old man to dream of marrying a 4-5 old child, and then ACTUALLY ask for her hand at 6?

Is it normal for an oversexed old man (Muhammad had over 9 wives and concubines) to dream of a union with a 4-5 year old girl?

When she was 6, Muhammad asked Abu Bakr, Aisha's father, for her hand. Abu Bakr thought it was improper, because, as he said "I am your brother"; Muhammad brushed aside Abu Bakr's reservation by saying that it was perfectly lawful for him to marry Aisha [ Ref: SAHIH BUKHAR I7:18].

...So, Aisha was betrothed to Muhammad, and 3 years later, i.e. when Aisha was 9, the marriage was consummated. And Muhammad was 53 then [SAHIH BUKHARI 5:236,7:64,7:65,7:88] .

Aisha became Muhammad's favourite wife. And the sexuality in the relationship was predominant [ SAHIH BUKHARI .1.270, 3:36, 7:6, 3:148, 3:149, 3:150, 7:142, IbnSa'd 1pg165 ]. Later, Aisha was to be called the "mother of believers".

And that's your "prophet" Amanda