The Hobbit Hole VII - But not yet weary are our feet...

[HairOfTheDog]

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

But not yet weary are our feet...

• First thread: New Zealander builds Hobbit hole
• Second thread: The New Hobbit Hole
• Third thread: The Hobbit Hole III - Journey to the Cross-roads! (Congratulations, we filled it up!)
• Fourth Thread: The Hobbit Hole IV - The Road Goes Ever On...
• Fifth Thread: The Hobbit Hole V - Where Many Paths and Errands Meet...
• Sixth Thread: The Hobbit Hole VI - And Whither Then? I Cannot Say...

New verse:

Upon the hearth the fire is red, Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet, Still round the corner we may meet A sudden tree or standing stone That none have seen but we alone. Tree and flower and leaf and grass, Let them pass! Let them pass! Hill and water under sky, Pass them by! Pass them by!

Still round the corner there may wait A new road or a secret gate, And though we pass them by today, Tomorrow we may come this way And take the hidden paths that run Towards the Moon or to the Sun. Apple, thorn, and nut and sloe, Let them go! Let them go! Sand and stone and pool and dell, Fare you well! Fare you well!

Home is behind, the world ahead, And there are many paths to tread Through shadows to the edge of night, Until the stars are all alight. Then world behind and home ahead, We’ll wander back to home and bed. Mist and twilight, cloud and shade, Away shall fade! Away shall fade! Fire and lamp, and meat and bread, And then to bed! And then to bed!

See also: http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net

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[Fedora]

Check out this site!

Oh, cool!--I'm bookmarking that, thanks! :)

[RosieCotton]

But a paradox there is that it may be difficult to tell if someone is a potential marriage partner unless you date them enough (or otherwise see them enough in non-dating situations) to get to know them sufficiently.

I think it's better to get to know someone in a group FIRST. When people date one on one...people are much more likely to be on their best behavior or to inadvertantly hide something of who they are, for better or for worse. Not to mention it can start to make you feel like there is something there that doesn't really exist...just because you're together and start to have shared experience. Don't know if this makes any sense...it's just something I've observed in my own life.

The downside is that the world has changed, and there are few opportunities (off-line) to take part in gatherings with a variety of people in a neutral environment. Used to be there were more dances, gatherings of extended families, church picnics involving LOTS of people - families and singles alike - etc. Society is different now. It's hard.

[TalonDJ]

That was part of her reasoning also. That she did not think she was ready. Actually she never mentioned that as a main reason but I have other sources to find such things out ;D
When is anyone ready? I am not sure I will ever think I am ready so I ignore that.

[msdrby]

Oh my stars!!!! I think you defintely need a dwarf moot at your place... and maybe a really mouthy extra lady elf!!!!

ROFL

[Fedora]

Poor Rosie... such a nice girl, and no good conservative Catholic unmarried guys around. She needs to get out of Vermont. Apparently the only people who want to get married there are the gay guys.

LOL! Yes, Vermont might be part of the problem :) And Rosie, you are a nice girl--and you're not as old as you think you are, so don't worry so much :)

[TalonDJ]

Very much so. Unless someone is more introverted in which case in a larger group they are pretty much shutdown. But in the non one-on-one situation you are more likely to see the real them.

[Fedora]

You hit the nail on the head. And in the courtship model it is up to the guy to make the move and ask her to consider him as possible marriage material BEFORE he is sure. Yeah, kinda hard. Trust me.

I think the courtship model is a great ideal, but it derives from a geographically-close family structure which, unfortunately, is increasingly rare today, so it's not very realistic for many people. For instance, like has been brought up, it's impractical for a guy to get to know the girl's family first if the couple in question is attending a college 1,000 miles away from the family's home.

[Fedora]

I don't think they use electronics at all, which makes it even funnier. Though there is a freeper called AmishDude.

LOL! Maybe he's neo-Amish or something, if there is such a thing :)

[Fedora]

Did you ever want something but not want it, at the same time?

Very normal feeling :)

[TalonDJ]

See, that is where my millions dollar idea comes in to make a site for just such a situation. All the searching of profiles would be done by the parents and they would forward the acceptable ones. hehehe

[osagebowman]

OT: sounds like you are making the right decision then. Prayers for the sale to turn out right for you.

[JenB]

I think the courtship model is a great ideal, but it derives from a geographically-close family structure which, unfortunately, is increasingly rare today, so it's not very realistic for many people.

Exactly. And... in some, not all, cases it has the effect of telling teens/young adults that their parents don't trust them. Not talking about sex, but about making important decisions. And yes, people can be morons and screw up their whole lives, but at the same time, it's about the most important decision you'll make.

And who knows when people are ready? My mom had two kids by the time she was the age I am now. That situation has worked well. Wouldn't work for me, I need just a little time on my own before I settle down again.

[Fedora]

I think it's better to get to know someone in a group FIRST.

Agree. But that requires attending group activities which lend themself to that. This can be challenging if either such activities aren't available or if a person is shy in groups. I personally have a crowd phobia that affects me in certain social settings, though not all--I have to be in a certain environment for someone to get to know me.

[JenB]

Hmm, would work with some parents... whose parents do the searching? His or hers? I reeeaaally don't want my future mother-in-law picking me out of some lineup.

[Fedora]

Very much so. Unless someone is more introverted in which case in a larger group they are pretty much shutdown. But in the non one-on-one situation you are more likely to see the real them.

See my post #2373 which I typed before reading this--GMTA! :)

[JenB]

Internet groups can help that - though there is an element of pig in a poke with that. But based on Hair and ecurb, it can work!

[Overtaxed]

Too bad I can't afford to retire now. :)

[TalonDJ]

Crowd control will be much easier now that I have a new source for weapons grade cheese. muwahahahaaaa

[JenB]

Forgot I was going to say, in large groups I get very introverted. Online I can feel more comfortable. Ask people who were at Entmoot, I wasn't shy there because I knew everyone so well. Then ask anyone who's been to any party with me and you'll get a very different picture.

[Fedora]

See, that is where my millions dollar idea comes in to make a site for just such a situation. All the searching of profiles would be done by the parents and they would forward the acceptable ones. hehehe

LOL! That's actually probably a viable idea. Maybe you can create a non-electronic version of that for the Amish market :)