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Cathy Young's career is based upon "Witch Hunts"
1 posted on 02/16/2004 7:22:27 AM PST by rface
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Whatever happened to the left's mantra, "If you don't like it, don't watch?"
2 posted on 02/16/2004 7:27:48 AM PST by OpusatFR (Search Google for your posting name. Get a suprise!)
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"W-itch"

I think you misspelled the word.

3 posted on 02/16/2004 7:28:39 AM PST by 11th Earl of Mar
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I'm so embarrassed!

How could a Christian such as myself forget my place in Ms. Young's view of the world?

4 posted on 02/16/2004 7:28:57 AM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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Who is this twit? Her column looks like it was written by a sixth-grader.
5 posted on 02/16/2004 7:29:59 AM PST by DallasMike
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To: rface
This is the third article I've read on FR this morning by the lib press disparaging Mel Gibson and this movie. Why all this bad press? Because they are shaking in their shoes about this movie, what it represents, and the effect it will have on those who view it.

Note to liberal Hollywood, and the liberal press writing this stuff...you should be afraid, be very afraid. The tide is turning, slowly but surely.
8 posted on 02/16/2004 7:33:01 AM PST by LisaMalia (In Memory of Sgt. James W. Lunsford..KIA 11-29-69 Binh Dinh S. Vietnam)
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Mel Gibson answered the question about whether he believes the Holocaust occurred (and this is from her own quote of Gibson in the article) as follows, "...Yes, of course..." And yet this is somehow a denial. It did not matter a whit what Gibson said or did in this interview, her scribblings were to be a hatchet job on Gibson.
10 posted on 02/16/2004 7:35:46 AM PST by JeeperFreeper
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I should have made it clear that Landesman quotes such a claim by one of his sources but does not make the assertion himself. Also, the column misspelled the last name of Slate media critic Jack Shafer. I regret the errors.

Cathy is an angry socialist as full of the aggressive zeal possessed by any loyal Trotskyite. Mistakes are made during the struggle and should be regretted but not so as to affect the pure intentions of the movement.

11 posted on 02/16/2004 7:38:33 AM PST by johnny7 (“C'mon! You sons 'o bitches wanna live forever!?”)
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So yes, there is a double standard because communism is seen as having "progressive" goals. And yes, the Soviet regime engaged in mass murder on a Nazi-like scale. But that hardly justifies Gibson's comments.

Hardly justifies Cathy Young comments...

12 posted on 02/16/2004 7:38:34 AM PST by 2banana
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This is from the Boston Globe. The next NYT casualty. Newspapers are already extinct they just refuse to report it.
15 posted on 02/16/2004 7:40:43 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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Speaking of the Holocaust.

If The Passion, based on the gospels, is "an inflammatory screed with anti-Semitic overtones", then aren't the numerous Holocaust movies (ie, Schindler's List) inflammatory screeds with anti-German overtones?

I mean, no one worried about violent actions taken against innocent Germans. Seems kind of one-sided.

16 posted on 02/16/2004 7:40:59 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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So, this writer is saying that BEFORE the Second Vatican Council, the Catholic church claimed that Jews were Christ killers. IT DID NOT! I was a child in school before the Second Vatican Council, and very strongly remember the nuns teaching us that the crucifixion was pre-ordained in the bible, and that the Jews were innocent. Herod, on the other hand..........

People who have seen the movie say that there is NO anti-Semitism in it. This writer is a people-divider.
17 posted on 02/16/2004 7:41:28 AM PST by kitkat
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But George Mason University law professor David Bernstein points out on the Volokh Conspiracy weblog that Holocaust "revisionists" typically do not deny that Jews were killed; they simply minimize the killing,

These people are beneath contempt.

If you're from NE, boycott the Globe!

18 posted on 02/16/2004 7:41:39 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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So yes, there is a double standard because communism is seen as having "progressive" goals. And yes, the Soviet regime engaged in mass murder on a Nazi-like scale. But that hardly justifies Gibson's comments.

Let me see if I get this:

  1. Gibson is criticised for thinking that the Nazi attrocities were horrible and ghastly, but, - maybe -, in a century of mass murder on an even larger scale by the Soviets and Chinese, not uniquely horrible
  2. Evidence is provided that, yes indeed, the Soviets and Moaists did in fact commit systematic mass murder on a scale even larger than the Nazis
  3. Evidence is provided that there is a double standard with respect to mass killings by the Commies, as opposed to their brother socialists the Nazis, the Marxist bastards being given an unwarrented pass because they commited genocide for "progressive" reasons
  4. The author seems to accept that the issues noted in points 2 and 3 are in fact accurate
  5. Therefore, the author concludes that Gibson's position in point 1 is horribly wrong
Have I missed anything?

Or have I correctly summed up this rancid dingbat's position?

20 posted on 02/16/2004 7:43:00 AM PST by jscd3
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Blaming the Jews of today for actions taken 2000 years ago, is the same idiotic thought as blaming the whites of today for the errors of the slave holders 150 years ago. And as in the writing, blaming Germany for the anti-Jew actions 60 years ago especially since the liberal writer, like her cohorts, are supporting Saddam by saying we shouldn't have deposed the most prolific killer of Muslims in history, just like Hitler was the mass murder of the Jews.

It's time for the public to get past the sitcom mentality, deal with reality as it really is, and make a better world than what was there in both cases. It is not done with persecution or attacks, but with cooperation and trust. And sometimes, a little truth that is real.
21 posted on 02/16/2004 7:43:41 AM PST by Redwood71
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Well, I could make a joke about her hovering around a cauldron, but that wouldn't be nice. The detractors must really be desparate, which means it should be a terrific and powerful film, because their attacks have gotten more rambling and vicious and personal than ever. I'm looking forward to seeing it.
24 posted on 02/16/2004 7:47:00 AM PST by fortunecookie
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Great! More press for the Movie. Every time one of these numbnuts attacks Gibson or his movie, more tickets get sold. In my area, The Passion is sold out until the end of March.

Folks, if these anti-Christians and paranoids didn't attack, the movie would probably end up being a minor film. As it is now, it will end up being one of the highest grossing films on History. It's all part of the plan.
25 posted on 02/16/2004 7:47:36 AM PST by StolarStorm
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If Mel Gibson's movie is based on the Bible, why haven't all these people been protesting the 'Good Book'? Why is it only now that they find that Jesus was crucified by Jews? Most of us are smart enough to know that the Jewish people were not responsible, but only a handful. This is no different than blaming all white people for slavery. It demonstrates sheer ignorance and stupidity, not to mention the hatred. Revisionism and political correctness continues to rear its ugly head.
26 posted on 02/16/2004 7:48:15 AM PST by TommyDale
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This may not signify anti-Semitism, but it certainly signifies a frightening moral obtuseness.

Not really. It signifies obstinance in reference to political correctness. Even while acknowledge "gulag" revisionism, she fails to understand that this is exactly what this is about.

When you look at WWII and thereafter, you see where darkness tried to envelope the globe. Facism, Nazis, and the holocaust were but one piece. Communism was another part.

Evil loves to flog the dead horse of fascism to distract attention from the live but ailing evil of communism.

Because this film is such a direct threat to atheist, communist elites, they are going to go all out to label Mel a fascist and anti-semite, even when it is obvious he is neither.

27 posted on 02/16/2004 7:50:29 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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But George Mason University law professor David Bernstein points out on the Volokh Conspiracy weblog that Holocaust "revisionists" typically do not deny that Jews were killed; they simply minimize the killing, portraying it as another part of the overall death toll of World War II rather than the systematic extermination campaign that it was.

I don't have a problem with Mel's "Passion", nor do I have a problem with the fact that tens of millions of non Jews died in WW2. The problem is the denial that when it came to Jews there was a systematic extermination campaign. That's revisionist.

28 posted on 02/16/2004 7:53:23 AM PST by BrooklynGOP (www.logicandsanity.com)
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The media is the enemy.
30 posted on 02/16/2004 7:58:55 AM PST by verity
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