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Carry and Ammunition Suggestions for Condition Orange (Freeper Suggestions-Vanity)
The Usual Suspects ^ | 12/21/2003 | Section9

Posted on 12/21/2003 5:21:45 PM PST by section9

Well folks, it's that time of year again. Tom Ridge and the people at DHS have received the analysis of the chatter gathered by NRO, DIA, and other assorted alphabet agencies and it appears that the Rags have decided to do the whole Grinch thing.

Naturally, Americans can be an awfully accomodating bunch, in that 72 virgins kind of way, so I was wondering that given that the threat board just went to orange, what are the Best Practices for carry, ammunition, and accessories during this period. In other words, are you stuck with your 9mm when you're going about your Christmas shopping, or should one carry the 12 guage in the gun rack.

I'm serious, folks. I'm not being facetious. It only sounds that way. I have been expecting terrorists to make guerilla style attacks and acts of sabotage in the U.S. for two years now as an expression of Islamic "manhood". Unfortunately for them, there's something called the Second Amendment. So this thread is for practical suggestions for carry and concealment, choice of firearms and ammunition in a low intensity warfare environment, and of course, best practices for small unit tactics in case you run into the Madrass Jihad for Allah (as opposed to, say, the Campus Crusade for Christ).

Be Seeing You,

Chris


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To: Squantos
Sheesh.......... ya coulda pinged me!!! ;<)

Point taken! ;<0

61 posted on 12/21/2003 6:10:41 PM PST by Eaker (Place your clothes and weapons where you can find them in the dark. - Lazarus Long)
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To: SauronOfMordor
Like I said I know. I could offer up a list of excuses and other expenses though :OP

I already have the knowledge of how to use them from the military but very little knowlegde of civilian weapons. What do you think of the link that da_toolman provided for me?
62 posted on 12/21/2003 6:10:45 PM PST by kuma
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To: SauronOfMordor
Realisticly, I don't expect swarms of Jihadis in our neighborhoods -- that would be brought to a stop right quick.

All kidding aside, I got pretty freaked a few weeks ago when I drove into my neighbourhood and saw about eight guys in swat-black, stacked up at a front door like they were about to make a "dynamic" entry. Every damn one of the was *swarthy.* I didn't notice weapons, but do you really need them to "practice?"

63 posted on 12/21/2003 6:12:02 PM PST by Woahhs
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To: Squantos
At one time I travelled extensively all over SW Kansas, S Alabama and Tidewater Virginia. I always carried a survival kit.

Now I seldom get more than 30 miles away from home.

I live in a large brick house in the Florida panhandle. It is well supplied with normal food in the fridge and freezer. Have a generator to power the pump only. In a pinch we could use it for everything but would use up the gas supply too soon.

The house would make a pretty good fortress but no real thought of that ever being a reality.

I have a carrier above the head of the pickup for a short barreled shotgun. It is in plain view but no one ever notices it up there. I also keep an old CZ 52 with two spare mags. It penetrates well which would be likely in a vehicle to vehicle confrontation. Also cheap enough that I wouldn't cry if it were stolen.

64 posted on 12/21/2003 6:12:05 PM PST by yarddog
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To: 4ConservativeJustices; glock rocks
Do not buy Glock for concealed carry.

Been carrying one since the 90's and no problem. You must be from the school of folks who don't like a weapon that fires when you pull the trigger.

If you are going to give advice like this please give details so we Glock owners can cut your argument to pieces.

65 posted on 12/21/2003 6:14:09 PM PST by Eaker (Place your clothes and weapons where you can find them in the dark. - Lazarus Long)
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To: Squantos
Buy 'n carry and use what "works" for .........you !

Amen brother!

Hb

66 posted on 12/21/2003 6:15:19 PM PST by Hoverbug
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To: Woahhs
I think it has something to do with the way it looks when stuffed in your pants...

I wouldn't touch that line with a ten foot pole.

Hb

67 posted on 12/21/2003 6:17:44 PM PST by Hoverbug
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To: section9
Well, CCW is illegal in my state, but it's hunting season, so we don't get hassled about a 12 gauge behind the seat to badly. Depending where you are, of course.
2 3/4" Hi brass #4 buck and 3" Federal sabot slugs for me.
When I can get away with the .45 Norinco clone, it's fed with Remington Golden Sabers.

1911 style auto and a pump shotgun... Just the basics.

68 posted on 12/21/2003 6:18:16 PM PST by cavtrooper21 (Time , it's on my side.....)
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To: Eaker
Been carrying one since the 90's and no problem. You must be from the school of folks who don't like a weapon that fires when you pull the trigger.

That won't fly with me, I own 9x18 Makarov, that you can buy anywhere for $150. 8000 rounds not one anything and still going. If you don't know about these, you should.

BigMack

69 posted on 12/21/2003 6:26:51 PM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
Why not? My spouse wants a Glock, and we both have CC permits.
70 posted on 12/21/2003 6:27:38 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: section9
I have been out with the wife since Church this morning mostly shopping but we took the 145 pound Newfoundland pup to PetsMart to get her pic taken with Santa (and yup we're nuts) and as I sit here, I'm still wearing my ParaOrdnance P10 .45 because it is so freaking comfortable and easy to conceal in my Galco strong side hip holster. I just forget its there. But it is a fast smooth draw. I of course always ALWAYS carry a second mag. If you need one, you'll likely need #2, hi-cap or not. I am usually carrying some form of a .45 ParaOrdnance, or Colt 1911. Sometimes, I'll carry my Gock M27 (rarely now, since I have had mag troubles). When I carry a 9mm it's a Beretta M92 (with 2 Hi-Cap mags) which still conceals well for me beneath a Banana Republic Photographer's Vest. But primarily it's my P10. I am saving for a ParaOrdnance C6 "ParaCarry" and eventually I'll want a ParaOrdnance TAC-4 for trips.

All my mags for carry pistols are stoked with prefrangible MagSafe ammo. This is for two reasons: If I have to fire in a crowded venue (say a mall) I don't want a TNT (Thru-N-Thru) gunshot wound of my target and possibly hitting an innocent bystander on the other side of the raghea...I mean BADGUY. The second reason for the prefrangible ammo is that if, God forbid, I miss a round, any solid object like a wall will cause the bullet to turn to dust and not bounce anywhere.

The MagSafe is a number one rated round for a "one shot stop" according to the Fackler tests and I have heard many glowing testimonials concerning it's use.

I live in Miami, Florida and pretty much stay in the deep south when I travel, even in the winter, so it's not like a heavy jacket is going to cause it to break up too soon. I never travel someplace where my Florida permit isn't any good on a reciprocity law.

I couldn't speak to a terror attack in Chicago or someplace REALLY cold. In such a case, I'd probably be carrying Federal Hydra-Shok or Golden Saber. Maybe the new Cor-Bon load they call Powr-Ball.

71 posted on 12/21/2003 6:30:50 PM PST by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic.)
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To: section9
You already have great advice if you already carry. I don't change anything because I am always on orange alert when I carry (always) because of the responsibility.

If buying a new weapon don't listen to people who completely rule out a popular weapon, especially when they are adamant about it. If they cite a very small number of incidents, then I could do the same and call for a complete ban of the M1 Garand.

If you have friends that you can shoot with that is the best. Sample their weapons and heed their advice.

People who buy a weapon and shove it into purse or pocket without mental and physical preparation are asking for trouble and are not doing themselves a favor.

Merry Christmas and be seeing you too ........ we are out of eggnog if it going to be tonight!!!

72 posted on 12/21/2003 6:32:29 PM PST by Eaker (Place your clothes and weapons where you can find them in the dark. - Lazarus Long)
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To: Eaker
You must be from the school of folks who don't like a weapon that fires when you pull the trigger.

...or that need a dose of viagra to keep their finger off the frickin' trigger.

73 posted on 12/21/2003 6:33:31 PM PST by Woahhs
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To: little jeremiah
Sumpin tells me this could degenerate into a brand/caliber war thread real quick.
74 posted on 12/21/2003 6:33:42 PM PST by umgud (gov't has more money than it needs, but never as much as it wants)
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To: Eaker; 4ConservativeJustices
usually, I carry a SIG.

If there were any suggestion af a semblance of shtf, I'd pack a couple of smyrna's finest combat tupperware. Hands down, you pull the trigger, it shoots. Everytime.

75 posted on 12/21/2003 6:34:09 PM PST by glock rocks (molon labe)
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To: section9
I too suggest a .22 short,long,long rifle & or mag.These are light weight enough to carry a lot of they are cheap to buy, and are not watched by the feds a lot. Also you can get them just about anywhere. I have enough to sink a bass boat! The CIA used the .22 as a round to kill people with too. The round has been around in time since the early 1800's, so these are time tested too! You can also make a homemade firearm by using this round as well.

76 posted on 12/21/2003 6:34:28 PM PST by Knightsofswing (sic semper tranyis [death to tryants!!] & also improvise, adapt,&overcome& you can't fix stupid!)
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To: NMFXSTC
Not that I do have any, but if I DID have guns, I might have a few diffrent ones other than that list.

(snicker)

Like the Colt MKIV with Lasergrips I don't have, nor the SIG226, etc..

But if I had them, they would be loaded with Hydrashocks.

(Whatever they are..)

77 posted on 12/21/2003 6:34:48 PM PST by Gorzaloon (Contents may have settled during shipping, but this tagline contains the stated product weight.)
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To: Blue Collar Christian
...it was a 3" mag. with a long barrel, and I took my time and aimed it like a rifle. It dropped like a rock. Extra Extra Full. We were shocked.

I have witnesses !!!

I still don't use anything smaller than 12ga. though. The preserve owner handed me his old Ithaca 37, stamped State Police, since the exec. types I was shooting with thought my 20", rifle-sighted, mag. extended 870 Police looked too military. I smirked when I saw the Poly-Choke...and determined to perform some redeeming stunt. The big bird was shot at repeatedly by the "experts," I said "I've got him," cranked the choke, licked my thumb and touched the front bead like Jed Clampett...the bird slowed at the trees at the end of the cornfield, KNOWING he was out of range...spread his wings, boom...dropped like a rock. I blew the smoke off the muzzle, as we gloating wise-asses did back then...and the preserve owner said..."very impressive." I was hated from that day forward.
78 posted on 12/21/2003 6:36:23 PM PST by PoorMuttly (KAKKATE KOI !)
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To: section9
I've got a nice little 2" S&W model 10 38 +P that I'm quite fond of.
79 posted on 12/21/2003 6:38:35 PM PST by wdkeller
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
That won't fly with me,

My personal experience flys with me just fine, but thanks.

One advantage my Glock .40s give me is that my wife and numerous close friends carry them. If SHTF we can share magazines and ammo. Further, if one of us goes down we all know each others weapon. Your 9x18 Makarov does not allow for these advantages. What works for you may not work for me and the reciprocal is probably true.

I bet that we own different vehicles too. We are different people with different needs and preferences.

80 posted on 12/21/2003 6:42:01 PM PST by Eaker (Place your clothes and weapons where you can find them in the dark. - Lazarus Long)
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