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vanity- help with "Crummy public schools are producing a crummy workforce" stmt for class paper
SteveH

Posted on 12/06/2003 7:03:43 PM PST by SteveH

"Crummy public schools are producing a crummy workforce and that is really killing us in the global work place."

I'm trying to write a reasoned response to the above as if it were (another) letter to the editor of a newspaper, for a class assignment (social, multicultural based foundations of ed).

I am soliciting any notions (on either end) for ideas, statistics, pointers, websites, etc.

Please help. Send freepmail, respond here, whatever, but soon because this is like a final due in a couple of days. Thanks!

yours in jeffersonian liberty,

-SteveH


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KEYWORDS: education; educrat; educrats; multicultural; multiculturalism; publicschools; schools
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1 posted on 12/06/2003 7:03:44 PM PST by SteveH
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To: SteveH
Steve, what is "crummy" about your public school?
2 posted on 12/06/2003 7:05:22 PM PST by annyokie (One good thing about being wrong is the joy it brings to others.)
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To: SteveH
Crummy early and middle education is a recipe for disaster. You learn the foundations of math and language arts in these years. If schools sucks (bad teachers,etc.) you can be screwed. This means remedial education, tutoring,etc.
3 posted on 12/06/2003 7:06:39 PM PST by cyborg (mutt-american)
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To: SteveH
Other than your lazy work ethic and the terrible construction of the problem sentence, I haven't enough information to help you (read: do your assignment for you).
4 posted on 12/06/2003 7:06:57 PM PST by annyokie (One good thing about being wrong is the joy it brings to others.)
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To: SteveH
I don't understand. Are you supporting this statement?
5 posted on 12/06/2003 7:08:17 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross
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To: annyokie
I sincerely hope he's being sarcastic or 'tongue in cheek'.
6 posted on 12/06/2003 7:09:06 PM PST by cyborg (mutt-american)
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To: cyborg
No kidding. I'd have my boy's hide for constructing a sentence such as that on a public forum.
7 posted on 12/06/2003 7:10:21 PM PST by annyokie (One good thing about being wrong is the joy it brings to others.)
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To: SteveH
Start with Google do your own research. Doing it your self is the way to get a better education and have a better chance of being part of a better work force.
8 posted on 12/06/2003 7:10:57 PM PST by Jackson Brown
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To: Jackson Brown
He has never seen the responses to such posts before...lol
9 posted on 12/06/2003 7:13:43 PM PST by cyborg (mutt-american)
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To: SteveH
Your assignment is due in a couple of days? Oh well,I can't lecture you because I stayed up all night once to write an essay that I had known about for six weeks. I made an A (without any Free Republicans help :')

How old are you and can you give us more details about your project?

10 posted on 12/06/2003 7:15:59 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: SteveH
Send freepmail, respond here, whatever, but soon because this is like a final due in a couple of days.

This is "like a final due in a couple days"?

:sigh: Well, you might start off with the literacy rate among those who graduate from public schools. There are very few jobs that do not involve pushing a broom for some one who cannot read. Even most sanitation jobs require basic literacy.

11 posted on 12/06/2003 7:18:11 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (My ex is saying that I have become hostile. I wonder why Speed-bump would think that?)
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The reason why our public schools are producing a "Crummy Workforce" is because they no longer reward excellence. They believe that by rewarding one person as the best in class is damaging to the self esteem of everyone else.

This type of approach in the classroom results in mediocrity at best and a sense of feeling that why try to be the best in your class, when a passing grade is judged no different than a perfect score

12 posted on 12/06/2003 7:18:33 PM PST by MJY1288 (The Democrats Have Reached Rock Bottom and The Digging Continues)
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To: MJY1288
New York State lowered the passing grade for regents to something like 55. Soon it will be zero.
13 posted on 12/06/2003 7:21:50 PM PST by cyborg (mutt-american)
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To: annyokie; All
please leave my kid's public school out of it ;-)

that isn't my sentence. it's my professor's. ;-)

she is pro-multicultural (duhhh ;-).

i have lost all respect for the prof, the ed school, and (almost) the university. i'm on the ropes here :-(

hey i was just asking for inspiration, not for anyone to write my paper for me...

we are the world, we are the children...

it's a small world after all...

help me, i'm melting...

:-) :-) :-)



14 posted on 12/06/2003 9:02:19 PM PST by SteveH
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To: cyborg
John Taylor Gatto is one of my heroes...

:-)
15 posted on 12/06/2003 9:02:51 PM PST by SteveH
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Just in case people were wondering...

http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/
16 posted on 12/06/2003 9:04:37 PM PST by cyborg (mutt-american)
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To: CindyDawg
CindyDawg, my first paper for a 4 page assignment was 5 pages, without any freeper help.

it was returned to me covered with "WHY?s" in red without a grade.

my second attempt was 18 pages and answered every question.

it was returned to me covered with "WHY?s" in red, with a D.

my third attempt was 47 pages...

my second paper of 5 pages for a 3 page assignment was returned, covered with "WHYs", D+ ...

I am being graded on "conciseness" as well as reasoning...

are you getting my drift????

please permit me to spell it out for anyone who still is lost... i have a 'professor from h*ll' ... i entered and lost all hope ...

:-) :-) :-)

17 posted on 12/06/2003 9:07:08 PM PST by SteveH
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To: cyborg
Thanks......

Please add Jaime Escalante......

Two names I never hear in the "Ed School" ...

it is the veritable heart of darkness ...

:-) :-) :-)
18 posted on 12/06/2003 9:08:44 PM PST by SteveH
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To: SteveH
http://www.paccd.cc.ca.us/75th/alumni/escalante/escalante.html

who had endorsed Ah-nold as well
19 posted on 12/06/2003 9:10:21 PM PST by cyborg (mutt-american)
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To: SteveH
AND THE TEACHER TO END ALL TEACHERS... who made the phrase educrats popular...

http://www.joeclarkspeaker.com/biography.htm
20 posted on 12/06/2003 9:11:51 PM PST by cyborg (mutt-american)
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