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Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles - Daily Terror Threat
Debka ^ | 11-3-2003 | Staff

Posted on 11/03/2003 9:17:27 AM PST by tubavil

Edited on 01/26/2004 3:58:09 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Monday, November 3, 2003

A new message was posted in the last few hours by the Jeddah-based al-Qaeda-linked Al-Islah (Reform) society calling on Muslims to flee New York, Washington and Los Angeles in advance of major al Qaeda attacks in those cities. This is revealed by DEBKAfile.

The message accuses the United States of predetermining its end (doom) by its policies. ?The Jews rule the Pentagon by remote control and (are the cause) of Muslims being killed in every corner of the world. The United States should therefore expect more blows.?

The message is signed on behalf of the al Bayan (The Threat) movement by ?your warrior brother, Abul Hassan al Khadrami?.

Our Muslim expert identifies the name of the signatory as belonging to a Yemeni from Hadhrameuth, the Bin Ladens? place of origin where Osama enjoys substantial tribal support.

DEBKAfile?s counter-terror sources stress that warnings appearing on these forums are taken both very seriously and with caution by the intelligence services keeping track of the terrorist network?s electronic traffic.

Last November, Jeddah-based fundamentalist forums addressed a message to an Al Qaeda member, saying whoever understands ? understands; whoever knows, knows, but we are marching towards an operation that will take us to Paradise. Three days later, the Mombasa Paradise hotel was blown up killing 12 Kenyans and 3 Israelis and a failed shoulder-launched Strela anti-air missile missed an Israeli airliner at Mombasa airport.

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To: Sean Osborne Lomax
Humorous find...

Anoush - female name of Armenian origin
meaning: "sweet"

8,561 posted on 01/09/2004 8:47:56 AM PST by Try2Discern
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To: ladyjane
What do you see now that is different?

The biggest difference that I saw betweeen lets say 12.10.03 -- which was the last time I was in NYC before going code orange nationally -- and 12.23.03, for example, is the visablilty and intensity of LEO. For example, Vanderbilt Ave. outside of Grand Central has been closed traffic since shortly after 09.11, but only when the nation goes orange do I see LEO and National Guard patrolling the perimeter. Also, when you operate at orange all the time, I perceived a bit of complacency on the part of LEO -- not quite as visible and night quite as vigilant in eyeing down every person who walks into the zone. In the most recent national escalation, however, LEO and National Guard were very visible and every person who walked into their zone got the visual shakedown.

8,562 posted on 01/09/2004 8:57:01 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: SCR1
I'd have a little more respect for them if I thought they were. Then we could at least watch them and get some real info when we saw them load up and scram.
8,563 posted on 01/09/2004 8:58:44 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (The only thing standing between the rule of law and anarchy is that conservatives are good losers!)
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To: ladyjane
Though I'm tempted to ask him, I haven't yet. He always has a big line for donuts and coffee in the morning. I guess it wouldn't be too conspicuous if I told him I want to know where he moved so I could buy his fruit. As for the level of security in NYC, it's not nearly as visible as it was last week. I'm a lot less paranoid this week too.
8,564 posted on 01/09/2004 9:00:13 AM PST by freeperfromnj
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To: All
For those who were not able to see Ridge's news conference, he basically said certain "sectors" were still under higher vigilance, although he would not say what or where those were, and he said they were not necesarily on "orange" level, either. Law enforcement knows, the sheeple don't, in other words. He made some cryptic comment about "although you'll probably know in a few days." Hopefully by that comment he just meant that it would be obvious by continued police presence, higher airport security, etc.
8,565 posted on 01/09/2004 9:00:50 AM PST by watchwoman
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To: watchwoman
Thanks -- from the local news:

U.S. Terror Alert Level Dropped To 'Yellow'
Alert Level Remains 'Orange' In New York City

POSTED: 9:30 AM EST January 9, 2004
UPDATED: 11:44 AM EST January 9, 2004

WASHINGTON -- The Bush administration lowered the national terror alert level Friday as Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge said that an urgent threat had passed.
The terror alert level, however, will not be lowered in the five boroughs of New York City, which has continuously held at orange since the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

http://www.wnbc.com/news/2752917/detail.html
8,566 posted on 01/09/2004 9:05:15 AM PST by freeperfromnj
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To: WestCoastGal
I e-mailed the people who tracked down his wife re: both articles and the fact that this story gets stranger by the day

Excellent. We're on the same page regarding this story, can't wait to see what ultimately develops.

8,567 posted on 01/09/2004 9:13:35 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: freeperfromnj
REPORT SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY

New York City Terror Hotline: (888) 692-7233

New York State Terror Hotline: (888) SAFE-NYS

N.J. Transit Hotline: (888) TIPS-NJT

Port Authority Terror Hotline: (800) 828-PAPD

FBI: tips.fbi.gov/ or (866) 483-5137

8,568 posted on 01/09/2004 9:14:08 AM PST by freeperfromnj
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To: jstolzen
Just wondering what everyone's plans are IF a WMD attack ever occurs.

How many of you have a way to stay put with adequate shelter? (I know many of us stock food & water, but shelter is my #1 concern right now as I don't have a good place to go).

Does anyone have anything more in place than just going into your basement? And what about those who don't have basements? Have you had any luck finding a place to go in your community - and if so..how did you find it?

I guess the last question is..how many will say "the heck with it" and run for the nearest countryside?

TIA..
8,569 posted on 01/09/2004 9:14:47 AM PST by jstolzen (We gotta start thinking LIKE the bad guys!!)
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To: Try2Discern
"Anoush - female name of Armenian origin
meaning: "sweet"


Wow, interesting find and linkage. Very interesting in fact. I view this as corroboration of my assessment about my current line of thinking concerning the identity of EOM. Excellent and thanks very much Try2Discern!!!
8,570 posted on 01/09/2004 9:19:57 AM PST by Sean Osborne Lomax (http://www.HomelandSecurityUS.com)
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To: Velveeta; All
Interesting post ...

zetrox
Jack's Warning to America
Fri Jan 9 2004 11:19:12 am
64.12.96.44

From: Jack Ryan
Date: Fri Jan 9, 2004 8:50 am
Subject: My warning to the American People!





My Warning to the American People

I would like to say one more time, that the attack
that we are all expecting was due to occur in
November, and we were a hairs bredth away from having
are lives thrown into disorder. The reasoning for the
delay of the attack is not necessarily known. The
terrorists alluded to a reasoning such as the Magic
pulled by Bush and his Black House Wizards. One must
realize that this year is like no other. This Ramadan
with the lunar and solar eclipses will not occur for
another 1000 years. This is paramount to this Islamic
cause for the Qurran states that when Ramadan has the
Lunar and Solar eclipse it is a sign that the Imam
Mahdi is among the humans. The Imam Mahdi is due to
bring about the apocalypse, he is a normal man until
the year 1424 with the special Ramdan, calling him to
make his appearance. It is known that many specualte
that Bin Laden thinks that he is the Imam Mahdi. The
Qurran states that the Imam will walk the Earth as a
man, but that his enemies will never be able to find
him no matter how hard they try. A lot of this fits
exactly in with what we have experienced since 9/11.
The major attack and the coming of the Imam Mahdi
should have happened during Ramdan, but did not, after
all this is not the terrorists schedule, but Allahs.
Nevertheless, since they have publicly stated numerous
times that they will strike by Feb. 2, they must! They
have no choice, but to strike or face the devastating
moral and confidance loss that failing to complete
such an out right boastfull deed would include. There
is also the point that Bin laden said he saw himself
being martyred in the belly of the eagle in 2003, the
actual statement said this year, however, to Muslims
the year was 1424, which has not ended yet (ends Feb.
21). He may be martyred not in the traditional sense,
but much more in the sense that he will cease to Bin
Laden the man and become the immortal servant of Allah
the Imam Mahdi! Everything that I have laid out is
very pertinent and i am astounded that it was not
mentioned immediately after 9/11 that the Islamic year
1424 would be the beginning of the most treacherous
time period for Earth that we have ever experienced.
There is no rational that will stop religious zealots
from following through. So as time ticks slowly by I
too make the statement that we must prepare, the
evidence is a mountain against the US, we will be
attacked in 1424 on our homeland. Mark my word I would
put life on the line for that statement. i have
studied Islam, Jihad, Terrorism, Pschology, and the
Middle East to great lengths. The risks of non-action
by them in the year 1424 our simply unspeakable. They
will attack and it is impossible that we can stop them
all. The time draws ever nearer, and whether or not
EOM is real is of absolutely no difference for it is a
duty to confuse the infidels and decieve them, that is
what he has done, regadless of the exact date of hour
which the blood shall be spilt, one must realize that
the year is now! 1424!

8,571 posted on 01/09/2004 9:22:46 AM PST by maggief
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To: Sean Osborne Lomax
"I think EOM is a she..."

Wow! Interesting! So then the constant reference to one of the people EOM chats with as "pretty lady", is a red herring? Could well be that. As in "methinks thou protesteth too much!"
8,572 posted on 01/09/2004 9:25:07 AM PST by Hegemony Cricket ("Howard Dean is evidence that the Lord supports George W. Bush". - Dick Morris)
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To: watchwoman
They (HS) need to be more specific with us (the people). Look how well the Amber Alerts for missing kids work - because you enlist the power of millions of good citizens to be the eyes and ears of the cops. All this secretiveness on terrorism weakens our ability to nab the bad guys and shut them down. I'd also like to see them use a map concept for the color alerts - I suspect most of us would enjoy learning that we're really in condition green or blue (and have been throughout).
8,573 posted on 01/09/2004 9:27:12 AM PST by LikeLight ( ___________________________________ it's a line)
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To: Luke Skyfreeper
Is Apparent Registrant Of Terror Site A University Professor...

Jeremy Reynalds, 01/06/04

...Connected with Self-Proclaimed al Qaida Operative?

A recent threat on an al Qaeda related web site threatens to destroy New York within 35 days.

According to www.debka.com, an Israeli based internet intelligence digest, the threat made headlines on the front page of Il Giornale, a respected Italian newspaper. However, there appears to have been no American media coverage.

The threat was contained in a video clip featured on a web site allegedly associated with al Qaeda. At the time of writing, the clip was still on line at www.khayma.com/iraqihell/End%20US.htm. According to debka.com, the newspaper reported the video announced al Qaeda plans to destroy New York in a nuclear blast on February 2.

The video clip showed a number of possible scenarios. A bomb or giant fireball from the sky covering New York with a radioactive cloud. A storm of radioactive clouds toppling skyscrapers one by one, along with the Statue of Liberty and Brooklyn Bridge being blown to pieces. An explosion on board a charter aircraft that would cause a radioactive cloud to spread over the city.

The video clip was also accompanied, Debka said the newspaper reported, by large, red-lettered Arabic captions saying: "If God wills it, the end of America is near."

The administrative contact for the site is apparently Dr. Sami Shaban, a professor with the United Arab Emirates (UAE) University's Dept. of Medical Education in Al-Ain in the UAE.

A university faculty listing says Shaban is listing "out of faculty." On line information for the site listed Shaban as having a street address in Bowie, MD.

Attempts to obtain a telephone number to contact Shaban at the address in Bowie were unsuccessful.

It is important not to discount the possibility that Shaban's site could have conceivably been hacked, a practise that has been routine by members of the al Qaida in the last year or so.

There could conceivably be a link between Shaban and Daleel Almojahid, a self- professed al Qaida operative who for some weeks was broadcasting messages of destruction to America through his Yahoo groups message board.

Recently all of Almojahid's writings, which included a list of demands to the Bush Administration ( fulfilment of which was apparently necessary to prevent future attacks upon America) were pulled from the site and replaced with a link to the video described in this article.

Almojahid was writing from the United Arab Emirates, initially from computers located at the American University at Sharjah. Typically very prolific, Almojahid has been conspicuously silent the last few days and has not responded to requests for comment on any connection between him and the presumed site registrant.

While neither the video or the seriousness of the threat have been assessed , as www.debka.com pointed out, "The report appeared in a newspaper widely viewed as the flagship of Italian prime minister Silvio Berlusconi. Such reports - even if not authenticated - tend to contribute to the mounting sense of alarm generated by ‘Orange Alert' in America and other Western countries."

8,574 posted on 01/09/2004 9:30:03 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: WestCoastGal
So let's see... he married a woman in Canada and was a Canadian/Egyptian citizen, then for some reason they divorced and he then marries a U.S. citizen (guess on my part as I don't know that this woman is a U.S. citizen) and then becomes a U.S./Egyptian citizen. How intriguing. I wonder if his children in Canada knew of the wife in the U.S.?

Chameleons, what an apt description, WCG! There are an awful lot of those "chameleons" down here in my neck of the woods.

It will be most interesting to see the twists and turns this particular story takes....
8,575 posted on 01/09/2004 9:31:23 AM PST by KylaStarr
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To: Hegemony Cricket
HC, I saw speculation somewhere that the primary chat partner (apparent antagonist) of EOM is really just an alter ego - to give the appearance of actual discussion and a natural appearing way for EOM to spout more "threats", drop more "clues", etc.
8,576 posted on 01/09/2004 9:32:23 AM PST by LikeLight ( ___________________________________ it's a line)
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To: relee
Good points. Just checking in today, trying to catch up.
8,577 posted on 01/09/2004 9:32:31 AM PST by jerseygirl
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To: Mossad1967
Why in the world was it dropped today?
8,578 posted on 01/09/2004 9:35:03 AM PST by jerseygirl
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To: Calpernia; All
Terror suspect pleads not guilty in 'dirty bomb' and missile plot

The Associated Press

1/9/2004, 12:15 p.m. ET

NEWARK, N.J. (AP) — A man described as an arms dealer pleaded not guilty Friday to charges he delivered a shoulder-fired missile to people he thought were terrorists and offered to obtain a "dirty bomb."

A trial date for Hemant S. Lakhani will be set after April 26, when U.S. District Judge Katharine S. Hayden said she would rule on pretrial motions.

U.S. Attorney Christopher J. Christie, who is personally trying the case, and Lakhani lawyer Henry E. Klingeman later said they both expected the trial would take place this year.

Lakhani did not speak during the 10-minute arraignment. He appeared in a green jail outfit and with his wrists shackled. He has been held without bail since his arrest in August following a sting operation.

Klingeman told the judge they hope to submit a bail application. Outside court, he maintained his client posed no threat.

"He is far from a terrorist," Klingeman said. "He is a 69-year-old Hindu from London by way of India."

Christie maintained that Lakhani should remain detained, asserting the British citizen would be dangerous and likely to flee if released.

He said the investigation was continuing, and that discussions were continuing with lawyers for two others arrested with Lakhani, but who have not been indicted.

The others arrested were Yehuda Abraham, 76, a New York diamond dealer, and an Indian citizen, Moinuddeen Ahmed Hameed, 38.

They remain charged in an FBI complaint with conspiring to operate an unlicensed money transmitting business. The charge carries a maximum penalty of five years in prison and a $250,000 fine.

Abraham is free on $10 million bond, while Hameed is being held without bail.

8,579 posted on 01/09/2004 9:38:24 AM PST by freeperfromnj
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To: jstolzen
Gulp. Just started reading posts...
8,580 posted on 01/09/2004 9:39:52 AM PST by jerseygirl
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