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Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles - Daily Terror Threat
Debka ^ | 11-3-2003 | Staff

Posted on 11/03/2003 9:17:27 AM PST by tubavil

Edited on 01/26/2004 3:58:09 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Monday, November 3, 2003

A new message was posted in the last few hours by the Jeddah-based al-Qaeda-linked Al-Islah (Reform) society calling on Muslims to flee New York, Washington and Los Angeles in advance of major al Qaeda attacks in those cities. This is revealed by DEBKAfile.

The message accuses the United States of predetermining its end (doom) by its policies. ?The Jews rule the Pentagon by remote control and (are the cause) of Muslims being killed in every corner of the world. The United States should therefore expect more blows.?

The message is signed on behalf of the al Bayan (The Threat) movement by ?your warrior brother, Abul Hassan al Khadrami?.

Our Muslim expert identifies the name of the signatory as belonging to a Yemeni from Hadhrameuth, the Bin Ladens? place of origin where Osama enjoys substantial tribal support.

DEBKAfile?s counter-terror sources stress that warnings appearing on these forums are taken both very seriously and with caution by the intelligence services keeping track of the terrorist network?s electronic traffic.

Last November, Jeddah-based fundamentalist forums addressed a message to an Al Qaeda member, saying whoever understands ? understands; whoever knows, knows, but we are marching towards an operation that will take us to Paradise. Three days later, the Mombasa Paradise hotel was blown up killing 12 Kenyans and 3 Israelis and a failed shoulder-launched Strela anti-air missile missed an Israeli airliner at Mombasa airport.

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To: LayoutGuru2
"We again warn these people, cease supporting America or your lives will remain in danger, and the Taliban Mujahideen would kill each one of you alongside the Americans."

Daleel is delusional. The Taliban Mujahideen could not deflate air from a balloon right now, nor can Al Q. Thier days are numbered and every time one of these idiots pops their head and ugly mug up in AFG, we take off his head.
1,361 posted on 11/10/2003 6:46:14 PM PST by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting--N.S)
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To: mhking
re post 1360..."alaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah akbaaar"

I think it is a disSTRESSSSSSSSED signal of some kind.
1,362 posted on 11/10/2003 6:59:51 PM PST by Cindy
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To: tubavil
The following is from:

I don't know that the Arabic writing will post right. It looks like it's not going to display the Arabic writing correctly and I don't have time to figure out how to get it to. If someone else cares to bother, please feel free. Blessings,

I like the analysis and detail in this link not found in several others.

Possible Terrorist Attack Dates


[Ed Note: Before we could get this article posted to the website – breaking news reports indicates a terrorist attack has hit Saudi Arabia. Apparently the Ramadan Campaign has begun?]

Here at The Alpha-Omega Report we have gone into overdrive in monitoring intelligence reports that are analyzing various recent Internet discussion forum postings and chat room chatter by fanatic Muslim organizations.

As we look at the overall theme of these messages we’ve begun to conclude that there is some merit to the notion that these messages are seriously real and may have validity because in part of what we’ve learned elsewhere regarding some of the Islamic prophecy doctrines held by extremists. We say this because the mainstream Islamic religion has very little to do with prophetic writings because there is virtually none in the Koran. However, the extremist Wahabi sect in Saudi Arabia seems to have invented their own “historical” prophecies of the prophet Mohammed.

Now, we take no stock in such prophecies in and of themselves. We do however note that these terrorists do take stock of it and therefore it would be a good idea to monitor the situation to gain insight into their mindset.

In addition to their prophecies which they believe point to this year of Ramadan for events to unfold heralding an Islamic “saviour” to appear we note their predictions also coincide with astronomical events both already happened or about to happen.

Now because these terrorists have issued repeated warnings over a two week period to fellow Muslims to immediately evacuate themselves from New York, Washington, and Los Angeles we find it important to take a closer look at the rest of their recent online chattering.


Some of our intelligence sources monitoring the terroristic chatter includes the website of The Northeast Intelligence Network. This site has provided extensive coverage to its readership including posting actual Arabic lettering and translations.

Their coverage includes:

A Fatwa Edict entitled: “A Warning to Muslims in America,” issued by the Al-Islah (Reform) society. It stated in part a warning to “our Muslim brothers in America we request from you and very quickly the departure from these cities an immediately -- Washington City, New York City, and Los Angeles city.

The Northeast Intelligence Network notes many other messages posted which indicate that this year’s Ramadan will be uniquely different than other Ramadan holiday periods. In fact one of these sources indicating such a difference was Hamas Sheik Ahmad Yassin who apparently claims to be some sort of a “prophet” who predicts that America will be destroyed during Ramadan this year


If that were not enough yet another Jihad group Al Ansar stated in a different posting to a discussion forum that:

…”messages from Al Qaeda Network in Yemen …

…”execution of three greatest operations during the holy month of Ramadan ... Brothers and sisters I greet you, as you have noticed the splitting of the moon in two marks the start of the biggest operation of all, it is expected that America will be fragmented into 3 parts, I swear to Allah on this, I swear to Allah that the US will be divided...

Here is another related message text:

An urgent news from the jihad rule in Yemen, the Al-Asad messages coded...

XXX and a XXX declared that they received messages from Al Qaeda Network in Yemen that points to the messages of the fighting Sheikh Osama bin Ladin who transmitted last week were coded messages with directions for the execution of three greatest operations during the holy month of Ramadan ...

Allah is the greatest

Allah is the greatest

Allah is the greatest

Oh Allah complete your support

Oh Allah repay he threw your monotheist slaves

Oh Allah we used and do not replace us

Oh Allah you are to the Mujaheed good and helpful

Oh Allah tie on their hearts

Oh Allah that they left chased in the land to the support
of your religion then support them O a great

Oh Allah keep our sheikh and our lover Abu Abd Allah

Oh Allah make its words a fire on the polytheists a light on the monotheism people

Oh Allah give our hands to your way
Allah is the greatest thanks to God

( ( I swear by the great Allah who raised the sky without an intention that America and the west world will not dream of its capture with the security what did not enjoy it a falling in Palestine and the Islamic world ) )

My father and my mother redeemed you O our sheikh the hero

Three greatest operations

Brothers and sisters I greet you, as you have noticed the splitting of the moon in two marks the start of the biggest operation of all, it is expected that America will be fragmented into 3 parts, I swear to Allah on this, I swear to Allah that the US will be divided...

A Warning to Muslims in America
Source: Al-Islah (Reform) society

By the saying in the name of Allah ( he glorified Allah what in me the skies and what in me earth and he the wise noble .He a that brought out these that disbelieved from the People of the Book from their houses of the beginning of Doomsday what you thought that they leave and thought that them their preventing is their fortresses from Allah then Allah came them regarding not they count and threw in their hearts the terror they ruin their houses by their hands and the believers hands then learn you O the insightful peoples ) the great Allah was truthful and a glory be to Allah and with its praise the glory be to of great Allah

And the prayer and the greeting on a master Mohammad and on its family and accompanied it and the Muslims as a wholes .. And after ..

He does not become obscure to you O our brothers are what he suffers your Muslim brothers and the Mujahid in the places of the world from a coercion and an injustice and a tyranny and families and its pursuer and a killing and a displacement.

From the masters power of injustice and the lying by the world America rulers who think they themselves are that they master a making, and Allah testifies that they write America end by their hands. Then there they submit back the Zionist plans without an insight or its references until became America today defense ministry she moves by the Israeli remote. And what are Afghanistan and Iraq about you by a little after then their sons there frustrated and defeated wonder ( what we were still here ) yes they are sole who be taught the bitter truth and how no and they watch daily in front of their eyes tens of casualties from their friends the soldiers die not sorry about them until bestowed is.

Their foolish rulers then hear a lying and forgery and the forgery of their rulers on their nation and on the world nations about number of their casualties and their heavy losses (and also we made in village all the nobles of its criminals so that they deceive in it and what they deceive except by their souls and what they feel) the great Allah was truthful and enough Allah and the agent how excellent.

A Lord say the seven skies master and the Lord of earth and the Lord of the Throne ( and they deceived and Allah and Allah deceived the Best of Planners ) the great Allah was truthful.

Our Muslim brothers in America we request from you and very quickly the departure from these cities an immediately :

Washington City, New York City, and Los Angeles city.

And since we declare that so that we confirm for you that we are serious about our warning this ..And the coming days the correctness of this warning will withstand to you
And we are walking in our jihad way for the defense for the Islam flag and if the unbelievers hated

As for our speech of the unjust rulers of America then we say: they waited our conditions after the first hitting to Allah soldiers the believers

Say then they waited verily me with you from the waiting
You fight them that Allah torture by your hands and pricks them and supports you on them and copies believing people chests

These he said for them the people verily the people have they gathered for you then you fear them then bestowed on them a belief and said enough we Allah and how excellent the agent

Oh Allah forgive for us our sins and our extravagance in our matter and fixed our feet and support us against the people the unbelieving

The great Allah was truthful
Oh Allah did I tell oh Allah then testify
And peace, mercy and blessings of Allah be upon you it

The movement of the Islamic clarification: 5 Ramadan 1424

An urgent photographed it to the Arab and west masses media
An urgent photographed it to the forums and the Arab and west sites

Below is a note from the Northeast Intelligence Network

The Coding of an Attack

Prior to previous and significant terrorist attacks, a "coded message" was posted on an Arabic forum. This message cryptically referred to a series of numbers and in particular, "Four-four" or "4 4." The following is an incomplete listing of forum messages, supplemented by information concerning the consequential or "planned" attacks believed to be referenced by the "4 4" message. The resurrection of the "4 4" message and references thereto are being noted in Islamic Jihad messages. The following is a compilation of messages, with notations made by analysts. The information is being analyzed for consideration in the possible attacks in the US during Ramadan 2003. Analysts note: although there are three locations of interest- New York, Washington, DC and Los Angeles, CA, analysts are considering the following scenario:

An initial "blast from the sea" may strike the east coast of New York, possibly in a harbor and/or near the New York-New Jersey border. The nature of this blast will most likely be radiological in nature. Following this blast, it is expected that some type of communication by terrorists will be attempted with US leaders. Failing that, a rapid succession of blasts could occur at the "remaining" locations. For those readers keeping count, this would account for only three (3) attacked cities or sites.

Analysts are split between a "fourth" blast in tandem with the third (i.e. Los Angeles AND the Silicone Valley area of California) ---or a "fourth blast elsewhere in the US, possibly at a United States landmark. Considering the latter, analysts have noted an obvious interest with Yellowstone National Park, which is the site of active earth-seismic activity. The following cryptic messages have been used to consider the various possible scenarios:

"The butchery will come"

ÞÇÆÏåã .. ÇáÔíÎ ÃÓÇãÉ íÍÝÙå Çááå .. íÃãÑåã .. ÃÑÈÚ .. ÃÑÈÚ .. !
The leader, Sheikh Osama god praise him he commands them 4 4

æÎáÇíÇ " ÞÇÚÏÊå " íäÝÐæä ÃæÇãÑå .. ÃÑÈÚ .. ÃÑÈÚ .. !
And the operatives of his cells, obey him , 4 4

ÃÑÈÚÇ Ýí ÇáÌæ .. !
4 in the skies..!

æÃÑÈÚÇ Ýí ÇáÈÑ .. !
4 on land..!

æÃÑÈÚÇ Ýí ÇáÈÍÑ .. !
And 4 in the sea..!

ÝÌÑæåÇ Ýí ÃãÑíßÇ .. " ÌæÇð " .. ÃÑÈÚ .. ÃÑÈÚ .. !
It exploded in America in the air 4 4..! (Referring to 9/11 - Four hijacked airliners in the United States)

æÝÌÑæåÇ Ýí ÇáÑíÇÖ " ÃÑÖÇð " .. ÃÑÈÚ .. ÃÑÈÚ .. !
It exploded in Riyadh on land 4 4..! (Referring to four terrorist bombings on Monday, 12 May 2003 in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, killing at least 34 people and injuring hundreds of others. The string of attacks occurred in quick succession; the fourth explosion occurred early Tuesday morning outside the headquarters of a joint U.S.-Saudi owned company in the Saudi capital.

æÝÌÑæåÇ Ýí ÇáãÛÑÈ ÃÑÖÇð " .. ÃÑÈÚ .. ÃÑÈÚ .. !
And it exploded on land in Morroco 4 4..! (Referring to four blasts that hit Casablanca, Morocco within 30 minutes of each other on Friday, 16 May 2003, killing approximately 40 people and injuring at least 100 more. Four targets were the Hotel Safir, a Jewish community center, a Spanish restaurant and the Belgian consulate. Morocco's Interior Minister Mustapha Sahel said there were similarities between the bombings in Casablanca and Riyadh.

Contemporaneous Message found during the attack at Casablanca:

"Four explosions shake Casablanca in Morocco and number of the casualties are 4 hitting 5 =20 until now...Four four she shakes the defeatists..."

Followed by: And tomorrow Yemen is four four

æÃä ÔÇÁ Çááå Ýí ÇáÞÑíÈ ...ÚÔÑå ÚÔÑå Ýí Çáíãä
And god willing 10 10 in Yemen
Yemen: Plotted Attacks Foiled; August 2003: Four types of attacks: (1) shoulder-launched surface-air missile fire directed at passenger planes during takeoff or landing; (2) the hijacking of airliners for crashing down over city centers; (3) the downing of light planes loaded with explosives; (4) the detonation of bomb vehicles or suicide bombers at commercial, shopping or tourist centers.

And its considering Egypt four four

I smile .. Four .. Four ..!

I supplicate for the Mujaheed .. Four .. Four ..!

And Allah rewarded all .. Four .. Four ..!

Remaining messages containing numerical referencs:

æÃä ÔÇÁ Çááå Ýí ÇáÞÑíÈ ...ÚÔÑæä ...ÚÔÑæä Ýí ãÕÑ
And god willing 20 20 in Egypt

æÇáÞÇÏã ÈÅÐä Çááå " ÈÍÑÇð " .. ÃÑÈÚ .. ÃÑÈÚ .. !
And the next will be via sea 4 4..!

íÝÌÑæäåÇ .. ãßÈÑíä " Çááå ÃßÈÑ " ÃÑÈÚ .. ÃÑÈÚ .. !
They make it explode and say 'Allahu Akbar' 4 4..!

æÇáÞÇÕãÉ ÞÑíÈÇ Ýí ÃãÑíßÇ .. ÃÑÈÚ .. ÃÑÈÚ .. !
And soon in America 4 4..!

æåÇ ÃäÇ Çáíæã ÃÈÊÓã .. ÃÑÈÚ .. ÃÑÈÚ !
Today I smile 4 4..!

æÛÏÇ ÓæÝ ÃÖÍß áäÕÑ ÇáãÄãäíä ÈÅÐä Çááå .. ÃÑÈÚ .. ÃÑÈÚ .. !
And tomorrow I will laugh at the triumph of the believers 4 4..!

Ýááå ÇáÍãÏ æÇáãäÉ .. ÃÑÈÚ .. ÃÑÈÚ .. !
Thank god 4 4..!

Åääí ÃÈÊÓã .. ÓÈÍÇäß ÑÈí ÇáÃÚáì ..
I smile, god is great

ÇáÚÏæ íÖÑÈ ãä Úáæ .. æÃäÊ ÇáÃÚáì .. ÓÈÍÇäß ÑÈí ÇáÃÚáì ..
The enemy hits from high above, but you [god] are higher, god is great

Åääí ÃäÊÙÑ äÕÑß ÇáÚÙíã .. ÓÈÍÇäß ÑÈí ÇáÚÙíã ..
I await your great victory, god is great

ÓÇáÊäí Ýí ÍãÇäÇ ÙÈíÉ 000 ÇÊÍÈ ÇáÔæÞ Ýí Úíäí ÕÈíÉ


ÇäãÇ ÇÚÔÞ ÕÏÑÇ ÚÇãÑÇ 000 íÍãá ÇáãæÊ æíÒåæ ÈÇáãäíÉ



the first strike was 4 00 4
the second strike was 4 00 4
the next strikes will be 4 00 4


ÝÞæáæÇ ãÚí
Çááå ÇßÈÑ Çááå ÇßÈÑ Çááå ÇßÈÑ Çááå ÇßÈÑ áÇÇáå ÇáÇ Çááå
god is great
Çááå ÇßÈÑ Çááå ÇßÈÑ Çááå ÇßÈÑ Çááå ÇßÈÑ ÕÏÞ æÚÏå æäÕÑ ÌäÏå æåÒã ÇáÇÍÒÇÈ æÍÏå

To confirm this see the Northeast Intelligence Network link below:

There is so much more equally stunning data on the NIN website that you can see for yourself by clicking the link below;

Significant Dates We Are Watching

So it would seem that the stage apparently has indeed been set for some kind of action. Why? It is hard for us to think that such rhetoric would simply be empty chest-beating. If you are going to make such claims you better make sure you put your actions where your mouth is or at some point, you will lose credibility with your hometown crowd, your supporters and well-wishers who will otherwise think you are merely blowing ‘hot-air.’ So, we’d be inclined to think these folks are not reciting empty words.

But if that is not enough to garner our attention we should recall other key indicators such as those from Osama bin Laden himself. Do you recall those recent audio and video tapes he made talking about further actions against America? He seems to do this before Al Qaeda launches major actions, in part to provide a coverscreen to issue coded orders to begin new operations or so we are told by the “intell” boys.

Osama and his Egyptian sidekick have talked about a “black wind” that would sweep over the enemies of Islam. He’s talking about a divine judgment from Allah that will send the enemies to an Islamic “hell where their faces will be blackened. Such an event will coincide with arrival of an Islamic “messiah” figure called the Al Mahdi an Imam who will rise up to defeat the infidels and unbelievers who threaten to destroy Islam.

While some Christians are wondering if maybe bin Laden is going to be the Antichrist, we think not but it would seem that the Saudi sheik is indeed trying to line himself into that position. We think not that is should Osama indeed die either as a martyr or if indeed as some media reports indicate – his health is in serious decline and perhaps unable to live long enough to lead any war against the West. Now we do wonder though if his Egyptian doctor, Zawahir Hawas might be the antichrist or perhaps a false prophet of some sort?

Regardless of the status of either man or others within Islam the question at hand we want to share is this: What kind of time frame are these people planning to implement an attack?

Remember that from all of these various postings and Islamic chatter we understand that this Ramadan period (which ends on November 25th) is the unique one for meeting the prophetic criteria for perhaps several decades, so its “now or never” if these guys intend to envelope their campaign is true Islamic holiness. If so, then what specific dates would seem most likely for matching up with the “prophetic Islamic” doctrines to make this Ramadan the fulfillment of prophecy?

Well two keys in the prophecy refer to 2 eclipses. One eclipse is a lunar eclipse – a “blood red” moon eclipse occurring November 8-9th at night in the USA. The second eclipse is a solar event on November 23rd.

As far as we know, there is nothing in the Islamic prophecies about a meteor shower but there will also be the Leonid meteor shower during the week of November 16th with a peak night of the 19th.

Keep in mind too that we’ve been reporting those massive X-Class solar flares that have manifested themselves over the past two weeks along with their accompanying “northern lights” displays. Those were caused by certain sunspot areas on the solar surface that have now rotated out of view from earth but will be coming back around in the next 10-14 days and they may well come back around as strong as before and who knows, they may be even stronger. This could be a real wild-card/joker in the deck as far as influencing symbols that might further ‘wow’ the muslim world should such events coincide with major terror action. We point this out in part because this solar activity marks the most stunning solar action in perhaps the last one thousand years and the latest one certainly set a new and unprecedented record in X-class flares. So we definitely should keep that in the back of our minds as we analyze the situation.

Now the more important aspect of these celestial events is the lunar eclipse. Why? It is very central to the Muslim prophecies. In fact, those prophecies state that the particular sign of the messianic Ramadan is when there are two blood-red lunar eclipses in the same year. We had one of those last summer, so therefore this year’s Ramadan truly matches up with the prophecy requirements.

These terrorist postings refer to the Ramadan attacks beginning when the moon is split into two parts. Some of the chatter discusses the notion of what seems to be a radiological ‘dirty’ bomb aboard a ship in a port facility or harbor or a backpack nuclear device.

Other chatter speaks of chemical weapons being put into place see link.

Still other intelligence reports suggest perhaps a biological attack. Of course, NBC News scooped a report of a renewed US governmental concern about air attacks involving stolen air cargo planes being crashed into nuclear power plants, utility operations or other key symbols in the USA itself.

Perhaps the reason the US hasn’t found Saddam Hussein’s Iraqi WMD is because Saddam gave them (or some of them perhaps) to Al Qaeda to be used during this Ramadan period.

One terrorist posting indicated that there would be an initial incident designed to bring America to its knees as a sort of “warning shot across the bow” followed by an ultimatum delivered to US leaders via mass media news outlets (i.e. TV Network News) perhaps Al Jazeera? The ultimatum would demand US retreat immediately out of Iraq and Afghanistan or else more destruction would swiftly follow which would include attacks on 3 other cities.

The speculation of the first city to be attacked would be New York City. The other cities of speculation that are mentioned are Washington DC and Los Angeles. Other posts suggest a fourth city with speculation running from the 4th city being Miami, New Orleans, San Diego or San Francisco but also perhaps even Seattle or Portland. My guess and this is all it is would be San Francisco because of the Golden Gate bridge if for no other reason, should the threats be carried out by ocean freighter attacks.

But When?

Because the lunar eclipse plays so prominently in their thinking we would expect something to happen shortly after the lunar eclipse, perhaps on Sunday the 9th.

It could also however be slated for the 11th which is Veteran’s Day in the USA and it is also the odd reverse of 9-11. Hmm a degree of reverse synchronicity.

One thing we’ve not mentioned about the Islamic prophecies is something called the “Night of Power” which ushers in a messiah figure. Now as we understand it can only happen in the last ten days of Ramadan which means after November 15th. We consider the following possible dates for scrutiny:

1. the 16th of November – a key night in Islamic history when Mohammed knocked down the last pagan idol. It also begins the Leonid Meteor Shower activity or close.

2. The third to last day of Ramadan will be on November 22nd a day when some say the Al Madhi is said to rise up and strike a fatal blow to the infidels. That date does have occultic significance plus it will be the 40th anniversary the JFK assassination and for those in the Illuminati world this is a very, very key date.

3. November 23rd is the day of the solar eclipse and that is the day after the JFK anniversary.

These data points lead us to think that the key dates to watch are:

11/09/03 – just after the blood-red lunar eclipse – a reverse of 9-11

11/11/03 – US Veteran’s Day. Could provide key propaganda points

11/16/03 – a key night of Islamic history – theologically significant

11/22/03 – An significant occultic day and JFK anniversary

11/23/03 – Solar Eclipse

Well, there you have it. The above dates are the ones that we here at A-O are watching with interest. Mind you, we're not date-setting nor are we saying something will even happen. Perhaps those doing the postings on the Islamic militant forums have no real clue as to what they're writing about. Perhaps it is deliberate deception to simply evince fear and thus gain a moral or psychological benefit to their cause. Only time will tell.

Of course, we've also noted the Biblical prophecy aspects in another related article which raises the possibility that we're already into the sixth seal of Revelation chapter 6! That chapter speaks of not only solar activity but also of the stars falling and the moon changing as if an eclipse.

For the Biblical Prophecy Aspects to this blood-red moon eclipse and solar eclipse and also the Leonid Meteor shower … click here

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1,363 posted on 11/10/2003 7:12:52 PM PST by Quix (DEFEAT the lying, deceptive, satanic, commie, leftist, globalist oligarchy 1 associate at a time)
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To: tubavil
Minds hereon are set in concrete re Debkka. It doesn't matter how many accurate hits Debkka has had or will have. They will always only remember the misses and seemingly wild claims.

I have a lot of respect for Debkka but consider it merely one amongst many puzzle pieces.

In this case, the Al-Qaeda warnings are coming from such a wide diversity of sources, Debkka is in some good company.
1,364 posted on 11/10/2003 7:18:53 PM PST by Quix (DEFEAT the lying, deceptive, satanic, commie, leftist, globalist oligarchy 1 associate at a time)
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To: All

U.S. On Alert After Saudi Bombing (Homeland Security today issued an "Informational Bulletin")
CBS News ^ | 11/10/2003 | CBS/AP

Posted on 11/10/2003 6:59 PM PST by caa26
U.S. On Alert After Saudi Bombing

WASHINGTON, Nov. 10, 2003

SNIPPET: (CBS/AP) "In response to the weekend bombing in Saudi Arabia, the Department of Homeland Security today issued an "Informational Bulletin" to U.S. law enforcement authorities to be on guard for similar style attacks in the U.S., reports CBS News Correspondent Bob Orr.

A spokesman for DHS says there is no intelligence suggesting such an attack is planned, the bulletin is simply being distributed to raise awareness. Domestic agencies are being cautioned to watch for terrorists who may seek to disguise themselves as police officers and/or security guards."

Office of the Spokesman

1,365 posted on 11/10/2003 7:20:15 PM PST by Cindy
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To: All
Riyadh bombers disguised as security men
Arabic News ^ | November 10th, 2003
Posted on 11/10/2003 9:03 AM PST by Sabertooth
1,366 posted on 11/10/2003 8:43:34 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Nouge
I've spoken to Daleel in email. He actually asked me to go on messenger with him. I'm reluctant too. After a IP trace of him...he is also listed as a hacker at other sites.
1,367 posted on 11/10/2003 8:55:33 PM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: tubavil
If any significant attack in the US occoure in the next 2 weeks I will kill a terrorist. LOL These guys are all talk!!
1,368 posted on 11/10/2003 9:00:36 PM PST by Empireoftheatom48 (God bless our troops!! Our President and those who fight against the awful commie, liberal left!!)
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To: Calpernia
If he's a he just trying to attract National Security interests to test his hacking metal?
1,369 posted on 11/10/2003 9:04:27 PM PST by bonesmccoy (Defeat the terrorists... Vaccinate!)
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To: Sabertooth
Remember the 3 ships story we were following earlier this year? Come back here and read post 1323 and on.
1,370 posted on 11/10/2003 9:09:32 PM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: bonesmccoy
That is an interesting question. I couldn't get him into the Group Chat area. After a few emails back and forth, he said if I wanted to talk to him anymore, it would have to be through messenger.

If you don't understand how easy Yahoo Messenger is to hack, go to and just type hack yahoo.
1,371 posted on 11/10/2003 9:21:01 PM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: Calpernia
If he's a student, he might just be trying to ping the US intel guys in order to set off intel assets in the US.

If so, he could be bait for AQ to monitor the "ripple" effects of "Daleel".

1,372 posted on 11/10/2003 9:27:39 PM PST by bonesmccoy (Defeat the terrorists... Vaccinate!)
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To: bonesmccoy
The universities and Net cafes have multiple people assigned to Yahoo logons. He is not necessarily the same person. He will only be there at certain times. Whenever his shift or turn is up, someone else will be there under the same logon.

I learned this from when I use to have Messenger.
1,373 posted on 11/10/2003 9:37:04 PM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: knak
It say's no such document!!
1,374 posted on 11/10/2003 9:38:15 PM PST by sissyjane
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To: sissyjane
Try this:
1,375 posted on 11/10/2003 9:39:14 PM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: bonesmccoy

Al Qaeda Makes Terrorism Backfire
by James Dunnigan
November 10, 2003

The terrorist bombing of a residential compound in the Saudi Arabian capital Riyadh on November 8th, appears to be another al Qaeda operation. Three cars, full of gunmen and explosives, were involved. The terrorists shot their way past the guards and detonated of the cars in the middle of the housing area. Some 200 housing units (mainly apartments) were in the compound, and most of the residents were non-Saudi Arabs (mostly Lebanese), plus some Saudis and Westerners. At least 17 died, and over a hundred were wounded.

Saudi Arabia has some six million foreign workers (including 35,000 Americans and 30,000 British.) For over a decade, Saudi Arabia has been trying to get Saudis to obtain the skills for the professional level jobs, or the willingness to do the low end jobs. There has been some success, but the fact that six million foreign workers are still there indicates that a lot more effort is needed. The high unemployment rate (25 percent) in Saudi Arabia, and the large number of foreign workers, has caused resentment. But too many Saudis will either not obtain the skills, or get their hands dirty with the laborer jobs, to replace most of those six million foreigners. The oil money has been flowing for half a century now, but much it has been wasted on consumer goods, corruption, or was simply stolen by members of the huge royal family. Not enough went for education and investment. Other nations, like South Korea, that never had oil, and were more poverty stricken than Saudi Arabia in the 1950s, now far surpass the Saudis in economic muscle and educational achievement. Where Saudi Arabia has made a major educational investment is in religious schools. These mainly teach the Holy Koran (preferably memorized) and the need for the entire world to be converted to Islam by any means available. The funding of religious schools was a typically short sighted Saudi policy. It bought peace with the many Islamic conservatives in the kingdom. But long term it guaranteed that several generations of Saudi men (women were not wanted in these schools) would be unemployable for anything except al Qaeda or teaching in a religious school. Neither of those occupations do much for the economic well being of Saudi Arabia. As long as religious schools kept their militant Islam indoors, and as long as the Islamic radicals set off their bombs outside the kingdom, most Saudis were willing to look the other way and go on as if no problems existed. Young Saudis who wanted to mix terrorism and religion had to do it outside Saudi Arabia, and thousands did just that.

Driven out of Egypt, Sudan and Afghanistan, the zealous Saudi religious students have come home. And here they seek what their fellow Saudi, Osama bin Laden, has long called for; the overthrow of the House of Saud. The crimes of the Sauds are not corruption and inept rule. No, the Saudi family is guilty of not being Islamic enough. It's not enough that no other religion may built a house of worship in the kingdom, that foreign women are strongly encouraged to cover up and that hundreds of other rules and regulation make it clear to any outsider that this is the most Islamic state one could ever imagine. For the radical Islamic crowd, too much ain't enough. What the Taliban were doing in Afghanistan met with the approval of Saudi Islamic radicals, even though the Afghans were seen as ignorant hill people, and dirt poor as well. The Saudi radicals did not comprehend that most Afghans wanted no part of radical Islam. While some Saudi al Qaeda are still up in the hills along the Pakistani border, the majority have gone home, and brought their murderous mentality with them.

As a result, we have two terror bombings in seven months. The Saudi government has arrested over 600 al Qaeda suspects, shot dead several dozen others and told the radical clergy that they can either play by the rules, or suffer (in prison or on the executioners block). The al Qaeda attacks have been against the homes of wealthy Saudis and foreigners. This shows an appreciation for the way Saudi politics works. While there is no voting, or much polling, it's widely understood that a lot of Saudis have become rich via corrupt practices, and that many of the highly paid foreigners (especially the Arab ones), look down on Saudis as a bunch of Bedouin Bumpkins, and join in the corrupt practices that have wasted so much of the oil wealth.

But if the al Qaeda fanatics listened carefully, they would also hear general disdain, and disgust, for the radical terrorism. Being a conservative Moslem is one thing, killing women and children, and fellow Moslems as well, is not acceptable behavior. But the Islamic radicals failed to understand this in Egypt, Afghanistan and elsewhere. As a result, popular support dried up, and too many Moslems simply pointed out who the radicals were, and soon the radicals were gone.

After half a century, there is a large (but still minority) educated class in Saudi Arabia. They don't care for the aristocracy, but prefer princes to terrorists. An even larger segment of the population (a majority) have responded to several generations of schmoozing and respect for tribal, clan and religious customs by the Saudi family. The Sauds may be thieves, but they are respectful, generous and, most of all, our thieves. If a vote were held tomorrow, the Saud family would no longer run the country, but there would be a lot of Sauds elected to legislative and local posts. It's a big family, they're not all bad and they have more friends than the al Qaeda crowd.

But it's a war that's going on in Saudi Arabia, not a popularity contest. And by killing several dozen Arabs (including children) and wounding over a hundred, al Qaeda has not scored any points in their favor. The war may not be over, but al Qaeda isn't doing much to win.
1,376 posted on 11/10/2003 9:39:14 PM PST by stlnative
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To: Calpernia
Yes, that would be logical... if you are correct and Daleel is being used to coordinate an international band of people... the downloads from his yahoo site would be useful.

The photos in his section could have data buried in the files... perhaps requiring conversion to a particular binary file and then conversion to some language...

I've wondered what those initial sets of files are that he loaded... are those the conversion routines for the embedded data or some other digital key to decrypt data?

On the other hand, if he's just a simple hacker, that download could be a trojan horse, a worm, or a virus to open your PC to Daleel.
1,377 posted on 11/10/2003 9:46:14 PM PST by bonesmccoy (Defeat the terrorists... Vaccinate!)
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To: bonesmccoy
You have freep mail.
1,378 posted on 11/10/2003 9:48:25 PM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: Calpernia; Sabertooth; tubavil; bonesmccoy; Mossad1967; Alouette; Cindy; MarMema; JustPiper; ...
I was monitoring the thread which was attempting to understand who this "Daleel" identity represented on the Yahoo! message board.

Cindy writes in post 1308:
"He wrote (sic) "I am salaah aldeen...knowing that i am using the american university of sharjah network is something you should know why with out asking ! there are 4,000 students here..;O)...enjoy."

Here is my take on this guy "Daleel".

Daleel is a pseudonym and part of an orchestrated information war being promulgated by Al Queda on us.

Daleel may be one or more individuals who may or may not be using servers legitimately or illegitimately through a university in the middle east.

It is entirely possible that AQ may have code to pirate control of a server and "reflect" their mail messages through the server (assigning the MAC/IP addy to the hijacked server).

The University may not be aware of the use. (see the story of Kevin Mitnick). Certainly, Calpernia's ID of Daleel as a hacker fits with this profile. It would be more revealing to verify which sites had been attacked by this person/group.

Now, more importantly, the photos of the ship are a red herring. The name offered by "Daleel" is a sham... his name is NOT "Salaah Aldeen".

How do I know?

Here's a clip on the REAL Salaah Aldeen from

It appears that Salaah Aldeen expelled European Christians from Jerusalem in the year 1189 to Islamic rule.

After all, that's the crux of this war...isn't it?

Calpernia... I think you're emailing with Al Queda.

Quoting the web page:
"In 621 A.D., the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) ascended to the heavens in the night known as Israa and Mirag to the Muslims (Malachi 3 Verse 1-14). In that night, Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) led all the Prophets of Allah (PBUT) in prayer in the Holy Mosque (Masjid Al-Aqsa). For this reason, Masjid Al-Aqsa is a holy place of worship for the Muslims, along with Kaba in Makkah and The Prophet's (PBUH) Mosque in Medina. These are the three most important Mosques to the Muslims.

In 637 A.D., the Christian leader of Jerusalem, Snaifors, realized through the holy Scriptures (Zeckariah 9 Verses 9 and 10), that the second leader of the Islamic State, Umar ibn Al-Khatab, fits the description of the one who would open Jerusalem and free it from the evil empires. Snaifors surrendered peacefully. Umar ibn Al-Khatab and the Muslims, after securing Jerusalem, again established Masjid Al-Aqsa as a holy place of worship. Both the Christians and the Jews were pleased with the arrival of Umar and the Muslims, and with the just rule under the Islamic State.

In the eleventh century, the European Christians in the crusades, tortured the Jews and the Muslims. They burned the Jews in the their Temples and they burned the Muslims in Masjid Al-Aqsa. The European Christians even tortured the Arab Christians and destroyed their churches. The Jews fled to Indulis (Spain), to receive protection under Islamic rule or a Muslim society. In 1189 A.D., the leader of the Muslim army, Salah Aldeen Al-Ayobi expelled the European Christians from Jerusalem, and returned Jerusalem to Islamic rule. The Christian, Jews, and Muslims lived in harmony under Islamic rule."
1,379 posted on 11/10/2003 10:12:32 PM PST by bonesmccoy (Defeat the terrorists... Vaccinate!)
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To: bonesmccoy
follow up message.

I have further revelation... this spelling of Salaah Aldeen... is an Islamic variant for "SALADIN"...

Now, it makes sense... OBL believes that he is Saladin...attempting to wrestle control of the holy islamic sites from King Faad.

"Gathering a large force of Muslims of various groups—but all called Saracens by the Christians—he set out to attack the Christians. Raymond of Tripoli was at first his ally, but then joined the other Crusaders, and the great battle of Hattin (near Tiberias) in 1187 found Christians matched against Muslims. Saladin won brilliantly, capturing Guy of Lusignan and Reginald of Châtillon. The city of Jerusalem also fell to him. The Third Crusade was gathered (1189) and came to the Holy Land to try to recover the Holy City. Thus it was that Richard I of England and Saladin met in the conflict that was to be celebrated in later chivalric romance. The reputation that Saladin had among the Christians for generosity and chivalry does not seem to have been a legend, and there seems no doubt that Saladin admired Richard as a worthy opponent. The Crusaders, however, failed in their purpose and succeeded only in capturing Akko. In 1192, Saladin came to agreement with the Crusaders upon the Peace of Ramla, which left the Latin Kingdom only a strip along the coast from Tyre to Yafo. The Christians were never to recover from their defeat."

1,380 posted on 11/10/2003 10:18:43 PM PST by bonesmccoy (Defeat the terrorists... Vaccinate!)
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