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Pope Leo versus President Donald Trump is not an either-or issue
April 14, 2026 | Kevin Collins

Posted on 04/14/2026 1:02:17 PM PDT by jmaroneps37

The friction between the Vatican and the White House reached a boil over point with the depiction of President Trump comforting an individual in a meme.

It was suggestive of President Trump acting as Jesus.

Was this a wise move by President Trump? Probably not. It probably should have been scrapped by a cooler head along the chain, but it wasn’t.

Nevertheless, however tasteless and indicative of a slip in judgement, it is not the end of the world.

A more carefully constructed team of “meme advisors” would have counseled against it.

President Trump is giving us what we voted for. We voted for a Warton trained street fighter in a $25,000 suit.

Running the most important country in history while prosecuting a war and having the entire Democrat Party – save for a very few- working to constantly undermine his efforts is a job that requires hitting home runs every time at bat.

But that can’t and won’t happen. Mistakes will be made and it is for each of us to weigh the magnitude and price of this mistake.

I am of a mind to let it go.

Pope Leo has a different job. He was given his job by God. He is a direct line successor to the first Pope Saint Peter. He is the 266th successor to Pope Peter.

Peter, you will recall, denied Jesus three times during His passion. When God appointed Peter, He knew this would happen, but He selected Peter anyway. The Church survived and thrived to grow to about 1.35 billion Catholics worldwide today.

As the Vicar of Christ Pope Leo has the obligation to speak about peace and alternatives to war. As an American citizen his opinion and right to express his views are a constitutionally protected right he shares with all other Americans.

That said, Pope Leo might have made a stronger case for his views with a better selection of words.

The job of the Pope as the Bishop of Rome is to teach the Gospel and uphold Catholic Church doctrines.

To make sure that certain doctrines are unconditionally accepted by all Catholics, God in the person of the Holy Spirit gave us Catholics the doctrine of Papal Infallibility. This means when a Pope speaks about a narrow set of doctrines it is an unbreakable rule that adherent Catholics must accept and believe what he says or no longer be part of the Catholic Church.

There are only a few of these must believe doctrines and they are identified as matters of “Faith and Morals.”

In their teaching ministry Popes say things nearly every day that are outside of the bounds of “Faith and Morals.”

This frees Catholics to either believe and accept what the Pope has said or disagree without penalty.

What Pope Leo has said about the ongoing war in Iran as he endeavors to teach the value of peace, does not fall under the law of Faith and Morals.

Catholics are free to accept and support what he is teaching on this issue or not accept what Pope Leo says at their own discretion.

Jesus’ reminder to, “Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's and render unto God what is God’s” comes to mind here.

Adherent Mass attending Catholics support Republican conservative positions by a wide margin. Other Catholics are less supportive of Republican conservative ideas.

Nevertheless, each side is free to either support President Trump or support Pope Leo in this time of friction between them.

Moreover, this situation does not require us to even take a position. And it certainly does not mean that supporting one man is a declaration of abandonment of the other.

Each man has a job to do. This is not an either-or issue. As Catholics we can continue to love and support the leader of our Church and the leader of our country at the same time.


TOPICS: Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: anothercommiepope; nobodyaskedyou; nobodylikestrolls; poopbob; popebob; popeleo; stayinyourlanebob

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Given the pressure both men live under perfection is not a reasonable expectation.
1 posted on 04/14/2026 1:02:17 PM PDT by jmaroneps37
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To: jmaroneps37

Papal infallibly says the pope is always right.


2 posted on 04/14/2026 1:05:45 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: jmaroneps37

Jesus chose Peter. Marxist Jesuit men chose Leo.


3 posted on 04/14/2026 1:11:49 PM PDT by montag813
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To: jmaroneps37

Trump has been pranking people for most of his life. It’s what caused his father to send him to NY Military Academy for high school.


4 posted on 04/14/2026 1:13:08 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (The nocebo effect: Negative expectations and negative thinking lead to negative, unhealthy outcomes.)
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To: jmaroneps37

It should be an either/or for Leo. Either stay out of American politics OR start having all of your churches paying taxes. Has Leo attacked Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq or Somalia yet? We don’t need him saying that America should award every maggot on the planet with “a better life” and make them wards of the U.S. taxpayers. Americans built an America themselves with blood, sweat and tears. The maggot migrants need to cowboy up and make their own America.


5 posted on 04/14/2026 1:14:50 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Asshat the Piker needs to get his domestic terrorist ass out of my country. )
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To: jmaroneps37

Remember.

The Poop is a Communist.

President Trump is a MAster Troller.

What the Catholic Church did?......assisted a demographic invasion of America by illegals, Dya think that Trump would not troll Muslim loving , socialist boys club Papita?

I say, Presidemt Trump ...lay it on.

IN the name of the Blather, bun and the holy boast.


6 posted on 04/14/2026 1:17:44 PM PDT by Candor7 ( Ask not for whom the Trump Trolls,He trolls for thee!<img src="" width=300</img><a href="">tag</a>))
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The Poop is a Communist.

Meet the new boss.
Same as the old boss.

7 posted on 04/14/2026 1:19:10 PM PDT by newfreep ("There is no race problem...just a problem race")
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To: jmaroneps37

Islamic countries are much less secular than the West. All the rituals and requirements make their citizens at least look like they are believers or life for them will be awful and short. I think that Trump-Jesus meme was made for Mozlems to see. The blowback from American citizens obviously made him take it down.


8 posted on 04/14/2026 1:20:23 PM PDT by Nateman (Democrats did not strive for fraud friendly voting merely to continue honest elections.)
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9 posted on 04/14/2026 1:32:11 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (RL)
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Nobody but commies care about what a commie pope says.


10 posted on 04/14/2026 1:38:13 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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Scratch the surface on the anti-Catholic attacks follow freely.


11 posted on 04/14/2026 1:39:24 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Freedom is never free. It must be won rewon and jealously guarded.)
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Unlike the truly great Pope John Paul II who clearly understood who were the good guys and who were the bad guys when he helped Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher bring down the old Soviet Union, this current successor is a far smaller man with a confused moral compass pointing in the completely wrong direction. History won't look kindly on this one for backing the wrong horse in the endless battle between good and evil.

"Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!"
-Isaiah 5:20

12 posted on 04/14/2026 1:54:44 PM PDT by jpl ("You are fake news.")
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To: jmaroneps37

Trump’s post was over the top, and counter-productive. But Pope Leo started this little dust-up.

Like every other leader, Leo needs to stay in his lane. Run the Church as best you can, Leo. Forcefully speak out against the violent persecution of Christians - and there’s plenty of that going on in the world.

But try to stay out of politics. We don’t need your opinion on every last thing.


13 posted on 04/14/2026 1:58:06 PM PDT by Leaning Right
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To: montag813

Why stop there? The Devil’s handpicked “pope.”
Can you say usurper?


14 posted on 04/14/2026 2:17:38 PM PDT by KierkegaardMAN (I never engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.)
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To: for-q-clinton

I thought so too. But the lavender mafia is getting money from somewhere. Soros? Schwab? Red China for sure.


15 posted on 04/14/2026 2:24:49 PM PDT by KierkegaardMAN (I never engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.)
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To: dynoman
Papal infallibly says the pope is always right

Who told you that?

16 posted on 04/14/2026 2:32:06 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution.)
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To: jmaroneps37

Given the need to choose, I’ll ALWAYS choose Trump.


17 posted on 04/14/2026 2:38:18 PM PDT by mairdie
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There’s simply nobody else out there, and that’s a problem.


18 posted on 04/14/2026 2:38:54 PM PDT by dfwgator ("I am Charlie Kirk!")
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To: dynoman

Either the Pope is a demon or Satan himself! The entire Roman Catholic Church is just as demonic as Islam! I see little difference!


19 posted on 04/14/2026 3:10:32 PM PDT by TonyM (Score Event)
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The entire Roman Catholic Church is just as demonic as Islam! I see little difference!

I worship the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Personally, I've never encountered any islamic anything in twelve years of Catholic school, nor at Catholic College, nor at Mass in all my years.

Maybe check your eyes. Jeremiah 5:21, Mark 8: 11-21, Isaiah 6:9, Matthew 13:13

20 posted on 04/14/2026 3:24:24 PM PDT by Sirius Lee ("Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.)
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