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Posted on 11/25/2025 10:17:41 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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Liberals believe that corporate income taxes are paid by evil corporations while tariffs are paid by starving and destitute women and orphans.
Surprise, surprise, surprise! 🙄
I know there are some stop-gap measures while negotiations go on - but I also know as someone that has a US company - we pay the tariffs - they get passed on as higher prices.
Tariffs don’t cause long term inflation (just a one time price jump) - long term they actually cause recessions and war.
If you read the history of what happened last time - 1920s - the result was not good.
It always seems to me that economists (ex. Paul Krugman) don’t really understand anything about how markets work or how money works. It’s not a science. I don’t feel that we have ever learned anything new or solved any problems. Adam Smith knew stuff in 1776 and we haven’t really advanced much since then.
I see “economics” as really just a tactic of political science. The politicians manipulate the public by making promises and by saying “Look at this pie chart my economist made. You can see that my policies will work.” I think it’s not much deeper than that.
There is such a thing call competition!
If there is viable domestic source, the imports have to compete with it!
So they cannot price their products too high!
Tariffs are not exactly like taxes.
They are taxes on imports only!
To help domestic producers, to help US workers!
Trump knew this instinctively. He never vocalized any of the three dynamic effects described in the article, but he knew that they would keep domestic price increases in check. Another (what should be an) embarrassment for the “experts.”
“If you read the history of what happened last time - 1920s - the result was not good.”
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Yeah, because 1920’s and 1930’s American economy is 2025 American economy, eh.
I’ve been pointing it out since February.
Tariffs are a fee to participate the marketplace called USA.
I was mocked here back in April when I said many of these tariffs would be eaten by the companies exporting to the US. It depends on the product, but many companies chose lower profit margins over lower sales. They still make more money (in total) that way than they would if they increased prices by 10, 15, or 25%.
Lost market share is hard to get back.
“Core wholesale prices rose less than expected in September; retail sales gain”
“Core wholesale prices rose less than expected in September, indicating a potential cooling in pipeline inflation pressures, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported Tuesday.
The producer price index, a measure of what producers get for final demand goods and services, increased a seasonally adjusted 0.3% on the month, in line with the Dow Jones consensus estimate.”
If you read the Constitution, it is very clear that tariffs are supposed to be the main and key source of federal government revenue.
Just about everything else is at the discretion of the states or citizens.
A measurement of tariff success, should be domestic production valuations and increases. Now, its merely a revenue scheme.
“Lost market share is hard to get back.”
Bingo! Companies will pay a little (or even a lot) more to keep their market share.
Related:
“Best Buy hikes sales forecast as shoppers upgrade tech, splurge on devices”
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/11/25/-best-buy-bby-q3-2026-earnings-.html
That's simply a post hoc propter hoc fallacy.
The second war in Europe was due to the economic and political destabilization of Germany and central Europe caused by the WWI. Versailles humiliated the Germans and its reparations destroyed the German economy.
Similarly, although it joined the Allies in WWI, Japan was basically shut out of the "whites only" negotiations at Versailles and did not obtain the recognition as a first-rank world power it sought. That combined with the political instability of Meiji Japan produced WWII in the Pacific.
The tariffs were only salt in already festering wounds.
Britain and France had it in for Germany ever since Germany united in 1871, they didn’t want a ‘new kid on the block’.
World would have been much better off if Britain and Germany were allies, and worked out their spheres of influence.
Krugman and the rest of his fellow Keynesian economists can’t admit huge spending and government intervention in the economy has been a huge failure.
You’re absolutely right it’s all about politics to these people. They manipulate the American public by giving their political spin on the economic numbers. Oh how I wish Milton Friedman or Friedrich Hayek were still around to debate and destroy this liar Krugman!
Tariffs are another gift for the price gougers sometimes they don’t even need on.
What is a "price gouger?"
One who jacks up prices because they want to for profit.
Ever notice off brand prices don’t increase.
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