Murder Is Wrong, Even If You're Angry About Losing a Debate

Jim Treacher Substack ^ | 11 Sep 2025 | Jim Treacher

[Rummyfan]

Charlie Kirk was murdered during a debate.

Here were his last words:

Questioner: Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years?
Charlie Kirk: Too many.
Questioner: Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last 10 years?
Charlie Kirk: Counting or not counting gang violence?

Then he was shot and killed. And the feds say the ammo the shooter left behind was engraved with “transgender ideology.” Quite a coincidence, huh?

As of this writing, we don’t know who did it or exactly why. But a lot of Kirk’s self-styled enemies sure are happy about it.

It’s the perfect encapsulation of current leftist thought: “Well, we can’t outsmart this guy. We’ve shouted him down till we’re hoarse, and he still keeps running circles around us. How about we twist his words, call him a Nazi, and then use that to justify his cold-blooded murder?”

The reliably hapless Matthew Dowd led the way on MSNBC within moments of Kirk’s assassination. Before anyone knew a single fact except that Kirk had been shot, Dowd sneered: “Hateful thoughts lead to hateful words, which then lead to hateful actions.”

[Blood of Tyrants]

The leftist ideology cannot stand on facts. Charlie verbally eviscerated them at every event.

[Secret Agent Man]

This is what people uere don’t get anymore about libsoc ideology. Because they dont teach honest history and expose the problems with socialism/communism.

The ends justify the means with socialists. Most were godless atheists so this life is it. If they don’t do stuff here and now, by any means necessary (much like muslim duty-bound taqiyaa lying for the cause), they fail. So socialists are gonna socialist. Then blame the victim. They try to act like the majority when they are the small minority (the whole bolshevik/menshevik naming fzke garbage).

Socialists are godless people in the end. Rationalizing everything. Any of them claiming to be Christians/Christ was a socialist are just warping Christianity to fit their own socialist worldview. Like China does right now.

[Right Brother]

was engraved with "transgender ideology"

This claim is made over and over. So what does that even mean? It's like saying "words engraved in a foreign language". Okay, what language? What words?

[TwelveOfTwenty]

We need to face the fact that the leftists don't see things that way. They, not all but far too many, think this was totally justified.

On, that, I saw this posted in the response section.

Cenk Uygur on The Shooting

[NorthMountain]

“Hateful thoughts lead to hateful words, which then lead to hateful actions.”

That's an inadvertent perfect description of ALL leftists.

Their minds are filled with hate.

Then their words express hate.

Then their hate explodes in violence.

Every leftist is somewhere on that spectrum.

I don't hate them. I also don't hate rabid dogs or cockroaches.

There are a limited number of solutions to these problems.

[fuzzylogic]

The guy who asked questions *prior* to the last one, had talked about what they were going to ask about - made a video. He said the person behind him said he was going to ask about “transgender stuff”...but then proceed to only ask about gun shootings.

There’s another close-up video of a guy being video’d as the shooting happened. When everyone else cowered he had a HUGE smile and pumped his arms in celebration while looking backward at the building the shooter was at. As though both he and the camera man knew it was coming, the camera not moving off the man celebrating. The reaction was not normal. Even if you don’t like Charlie, seeing this would be cause for panic for one’s own safety...that was clearly not a concern for these two.