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The British Army’s Challenger 3 Tank Mistake Still Stings
National Security Journal ^ | 9/4/2025 | Andrew Latham

Posted on 09/04/2025 12:23:16 PM PDT by whyilovetexas111

The United Kingdom’s new Challenger 3 is a technologically impressive and formidable main battle tank, but the decision to procure only 148 units renders the fleet “patently inadequate” for its strategic needs. This small, “brittle” force lacks the numbers and depth required to sustain heavy combat operations, honor NATO commitments in Eastern Europe, or project power effectively.

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TOPICS: Government; History; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: defense; military; nato; tanks; whyiloveblogpimps111
Why do they even need tanks?
1 posted on 09/04/2025 12:23:16 PM PDT by whyilovetexas111
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To: whyilovetexas111

The don’t have any sea lift capability so why bother.

L


2 posted on 09/04/2025 12:27:58 PM PDT by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: whyilovetexas111
> Why do they even need tanks? <

It’s for when rubber bullets won’t be enough against these folks.


3 posted on 09/04/2025 12:28:32 PM PDT by Leaning Right (It's morning in America. Again.)
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To: whyilovetexas111

“Why do they even need tanks? “

Target practice for the Russians in Ukraine.


4 posted on 09/04/2025 12:29:36 PM PDT by McGruff
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To: whyilovetexas111

The US was going to build over 30 Zumwalt destroyers. Very high tech. Very impressive. Main weapon is an Advanced Gun System that is really remarkable. We spent a ton of money, decided to stop after building 3 of them. And the ammunition for the Advanced Gun System is far too expensive, so we don’t fire them. We just sail around a little bit. It’s great.


5 posted on 09/04/2025 12:31:35 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Society has no reward for following the rules any more)
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To: Leaning Right
Yup. Pretty much the same answer to the question , “why does kim jong ll still use Mig 15s in the North Korean air force”?

The MiG 15s are not there to fight F-16s

6 posted on 09/04/2025 12:32:30 PM PDT by rdcbn1 (..when poets buy guns, tourist season is over................Walter R. Mead.)
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To: McGruff

Russia is utilizing older Soviet-era T-62 and T-72 main battle tanks, along with some T-80s and T-90s, in Ukraine, having lost a significant portion of its more modern fleet to Ukrainian forces. The use of older tanks, some dating back to the 1960s, indicates Russia’s reliance on reserves and derelict storage to replace heavy losses in modern equipment.

https://www.google.com/search?q=russian+tanks+in+ukraine


7 posted on 09/04/2025 12:36:08 PM PDT by TexasGator (iThe 750 hp Florida Gnat)
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To: Lurker

Can they fit thru the Chunnel?..................


8 posted on 09/04/2025 12:36:35 PM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Lurker

I’m surprised they can still build anything related to war.


9 posted on 09/04/2025 12:37:53 PM PDT by Lee'sGhost ("Just look at the flowers, Lizzie. Just look at the flowers.")
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To: rdcbn1

“The MiG 15s are not there to fight F-16s”

They have MIG-29s for that!


10 posted on 09/04/2025 12:43:12 PM PDT by TexasGator (iThe 750 hp Florida Gnat)
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To: ClearCase_guy

The US was going to build 750 F-22 fighters (1985). Reduced multiple times, first to 648, then to 339, and later to 183 by 2004. 195 were built in total (187 delivered to the Air Force), with the final jet delivered in 2012.

We built 1/4 of the original plan.


11 posted on 09/04/2025 12:45:31 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: whyilovetexas111

> but the decision to procure only 148 units <

That number actually concerns me. Right now the British Army has more horses than tanks. How will they manage that delicate horse-to-tank balance?

Will they add more horses?
Or will they retire older tanks?

🤔


12 posted on 09/04/2025 12:49:00 PM PDT by Leaning Right (It's morning in America. Again.)
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To: whyilovetexas111

The Brits had to build the Challenger 3 in order to maintain their armor industrial base, and then put it into service in order not to lose the military expertise. Otherwise, the Brits would have lost the capability in case events take a bad turn. Now that they have, the Brits are embarrassed to recognize that the level of force the bought is not enough combat power to be worth deploying.


13 posted on 09/04/2025 1:01:39 PM PDT by Rockingham
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“The British Army’s Challenger 3 Tank Mistake Still Stings”

the good news is that the UK can use the savings to give free housing in ritzy hotels to even more mooselimb invaders ...


14 posted on 09/04/2025 1:04:09 PM PDT by catnipman ((A Vote For The Lesser Of Two Evils Still Counts As A Vote For Evil))
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To: Lurker

They will drive them through the chunnel? But seriously folks, they won’t have enough tank drivers to mobilize a sufficient force because most of the men of warfighting age won’t be drafted because of conscientious objector status on religious grounds. Not that their religion is against fighting, but that it is against fighting for the Crown.


15 posted on 09/04/2025 1:06:22 PM PDT by webheart (Notice how I said all of that without any hyphens, and only complete words? )
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To: whyilovetexas111

They’ll do what the British always do. Sucker someone else into fighting for them.


16 posted on 09/04/2025 1:07:34 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

Hey - they’ve committed to boots on the ground in Ukraine - as soon as
there is a cease.fire.


17 posted on 09/04/2025 1:15:58 PM PDT by Palio di Siena (Kralik…..you get the wallet)
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