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1 posted on 08/20/2025 5:44:20 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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So what’s the alternative? Land 500,000 US troops in then let everyone glow in the dark?.


2 posted on 08/20/2025 5:49:44 PM PDT by Fai Mao (I used to care, but things have changed ~ Bob Dylan)
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Either cede Donbas to Russia or continue continue killing of Ukrainians. It is a Hobson’s choice.


4 posted on 08/20/2025 5:51:35 PM PDT by Bobbyvotes (Term limits will get rid of corrupt politicians faster than delivery of Jimmy Johns sandwich)
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Will Trump come home from these potential meetings waving a piece of paper and exclaiming peace in our time?


6 posted on 08/20/2025 5:58:48 PM PDT by Midwesterner53
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--- "...truly willing to engage in all-out war against the Russians...."

Very clear. To act as combatants, we cannot act as negotiators. So all in. Or all out. Not "half pregnant."

Who here thinks President Trump is going to declare "all-out war against the Russians?"

I don't think that is going to happen.

7 posted on 08/20/2025 5:58:49 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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Russia occupies most of the Donbas, Luhansk, and Crimea NOW. Why would a peace deal make it MORE likely that Russia would build threatening military bases? They can already build any sort of bases there that they please.


8 posted on 08/20/2025 5:59:36 PM PDT by Chewbarkah
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Well…he’s winning the war. When you win a war you keep stuff. Whether we like it or not.


11 posted on 08/20/2025 6:07:07 PM PDT by stanne (Because they were mesmerized by Obama, the man for whom this was named, whose name they left out of )
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You all need to consider the source for these reports tonight. They are known for taking things out of context, not telling the whole story and out right lying.


16 posted on 08/20/2025 6:22:20 PM PDT by JoSixChip
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Victoria Nuland’s fault.


17 posted on 08/20/2025 6:24:11 PM PDT by McGruff
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1. If Ukraine refuses to give up their defensive positions in the Donbas, and there is no security agreement with outside forces, Russia will eventually override those defenses and destroy Ukraine as a nation.

2. If Ukraine does give up their defensive positions in the Donbas, Russia will soon come up with an excuse to easily invade the rest of the country and destroy Ukraine as a nation.

In either case, Ukraine ceases to exist. If they are going to be exterminated, I would assume that they would prefer (2) to go down fighting than (1) commit suicide.

If they are looking at being exterminated either way they go, I would think that they don’t care what anyone—whether world leaders or Russia internet posters—thinks.


18 posted on 08/20/2025 6:29:09 PM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands
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Let’s see....

The Russians already have it. Check.

The Ukrainians can’t push them off. Check.

No one is going to help the Ukrainians push the Russians off. Check.

Let’s worry about the new military bases they can put in the territory they already control with their military.

That’s stupid. The Russians now have new bases in the Donbas. It is, as the French say, a “Fait Accompli”


20 posted on 08/20/2025 6:47:35 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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“Land for peace”, the same deal Hitler offered for the Sudetenland in 1938.


21 posted on 08/20/2025 6:47:42 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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It's either that OR EVERYTHING EAST OF DNIEPER RIVER AND ODESSSA.

What about that don't you understand?

American taxpayers benefit the most of Ukraine ceased to exist.

28 posted on 08/20/2025 8:04:10 PM PDT by Kazan
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a month ago:

recently:

At this time, Putin might think upper Donetsk may be too tough a nut to crack. In three months, who knows what Putin's army might possess and what Putin might think.

34 posted on 08/20/2025 10:03:55 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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“$24K Sign-On Bonus: Ukraine Unveils Lucrative New Military Contracts”

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/46989


35 posted on 08/20/2025 10:11:06 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Ummm..nukes would just need to travel a few hundred miles more if Russia hadn’t invaded the kleptocratic Ukraine and put it’s bases close to the border. Europe needs an Iron dome defense and some nukes of its own. But they are too busy importing warm bodies to do their scutwork. And making sure correct pronouns are employed. Just to make it ripe for Sharia law to take over.


37 posted on 08/21/2025 12:56:40 AM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find. )
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Best to trade Ukrainian-held land to Russia and trade Russia-occupied Ukrainian land back to Ukraine. Sound like fair exchange. Why not give the Russians land now that they could not take in 10 years That will save lots of lives [ except for hohos that have to be exterminated ].


42 posted on 08/21/2025 5:26:15 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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