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Lack of moderates among Palestinian Islamo-Arabs [Sodom?] - forced humane Israel into a dangerous hostage deal.
JustSayin' ^ | 1.17.25

Posted on 01/18/2025 4:08:44 PM PST by Words Matter

Lack of moderates among Palestinian Islamo-Arabs [Sodom] - forced humane Israel into a dangerous hostage deal.

01.17.25

This is about the agreement to a bad deal in principle, forced by the situation, though the pressed on a date [per US politics, optics on Jan/20 inauguration] probably made a bad deal, worse.

GAZANS

The horrors of Oct/7 led by Islamic-Caliphate-seeking genocidal Hamas (who succeeded as a result, after Israel gave all Gaza away in 2005, the terror entity which controls Gaza Ministry of Health which provides false data to media) by some 6,000 -- suffocating families hiding in shelters, raping while shouting in ecstasy 'Allah hu akbar' and demoniacs laughs; beheadings, body mutilations; burning families alive -- had included also: the sick cheering by masses in Gaza receiving the hostages. The twisted jubilation.

The searing question is: where are the moderate Arabs?

1930s-1940s Arab-Palestine legacy.

It's logical to assume that, hypothetically, if the inventor of genocidal "adbakh al Yahud' some nine years before agitating to the butchering accompanied with rapes of Haredi non-Zionist pious Jews in Hebron, two decades before becoming Hitler's Mufti - Haj Amin al- Husseini via his gangs (which included Ahmad Shukeiri who even assisted in assassination of his brother Dr. Anwar) had not massacred the thousands of moderate Arabs between 1936-1939, the Feb 1941 poll by Sari Sakakini would not have shown as it did: 88% Arab-Palestine for Nazis, (though 23 May 1937 NYT reporting showed pro Hitler, how all Arabs celebrated Muhammad's birthday). CIA report Aug-1942 also showed a majority guilty.

It seems, looking back at history, the guilty mainstream there, never ceased since - at least considerably. So was the 1947/1948 explanation by Arab Higher Committee’s Jamal Husseini on Arab objection to Israel as a State - because it will interrupt the "Arab race", through: 'Mein Kampf' a bestseller since 1999; mixture of: Holocaust denial on one hand and despicable comparisons to fighting on the other with Nazi glorification in-between - 'Swastika-Palestine'; 2014 93% of Arab Palestinians anti-Semitic (ADL poll); 2015 reported shameless 'Hitler' store so popular there - destroyed by IDF in 2023, and the present situation: as it is today.

The talk about de-radicalizing Gaza, isn't just talk. It's THE issue.

No one is born a racist. Excuse the pun, but Arab-Islamic-Palestine textbooks are textbook racism, and deaths glorification [in their jargon "martyrdom"], continuing with officials media official linked sermons. That goes for "moderate" PA too, of course.

IMAGINE

Imagine had there been a considerable moderate part in Gaza, if the answer is that everyone is afraid, naturally, of the brutal regime, but at least a protest through poll.

But no.

Public opinion on Gaza's regime Hamas among Palestinian Arabs living there, has been mixed throughout the war, with some polls showing a significant decline in support for the terrorist group due to the deprivations of the war, and some polls showing enduring support for Hamas continuing to rule or at least making the right decision in launching the October 7 attack. Yet, most polls conducted by "Palestinian" polling firms show more support for Hamas as well as its decision to launch the October 7 attack in Judea and Samaria compared to in Gaza. Nevertheless, at least a significant portion of Gazans want Hamas to stay.
That, after all the destruction it has caused, triggering the war to begin with, mingling among civilians, controlling aid.
Not to mention the general, always brutality and torturous dictatorship throughout.

Of course terrorists' continued use of civilians is boosted by fuel flooding from protests with drama slurs and media broadcasting graphic imagery. But what are most Gazans' simple personal priorities, aspirations?

[As a whole, the Arab "Palestinians" are not terribly diverse. It's so amazing how Israelophobes, gleefully, will choose to cite Israelis only who criticize their own government and the many organizations with some, at least on the exterior, portraying themselves as for human tights (still very politically motivated in they hyperbolic charges), but can never cite parts of the Arab Palestine side, any equivalent. BTW, the southern Israelis victims on Oct/7, were peace-nicks, many - activists for the Arabs, and even while being attacked, reminding the Arabs that they are 'friends,' they still murdered them].

Rejoicing by brainwashed Arab kids shouting 'Mohammed Deif' -- Oct/7 mastermind No. 2 -- in public, as hostage deal was announced, doesn't give much hope.

AJA President Dr David Adler asked a question not asked publicly by others and which has become even more relevant. The article, written before the hostage deal, published by the Spectator magazine days later:

"Where are the righteous of Gaza? Glorifying jihadists has created a populace that supports terrorism."
'The most distressing aspect of Israel’s prolonged defensive war against the barbaric Hamas terrorists is the plight of the remaining 100 hostages in Gaza. Recent testimonies from released hostages provide an insight into the dreadful conditions which hostages endured. There is evidence of beatings, starvation, sexual abuse and confinement in underground tunnels with minimal light and poor air quality.'

It's not just that crimes against humanity perpetrated by journalists including Al-Jazeera's, UNRWA guys, and doctors, but there wasn't even one righteous person to be found.
One.

It reminds Abraham pleading with Almighty Creator in Genesis 18 to spare Sodom, giving his last shot:
"And he said: 'Oh, let not the LORD be angry, and I will speak yet but this once. Peradventure ten shall be found there.' And He said: 'I will not destroy it for the ten's sake.'"

ISRAELIS: ONE BIG FAMILY'S DILEMMA AND FACING THE 'DEATH CULT'

So Israel was facing internal pressure from Israelis, who are like one big family and one cares for each other and moved by love and emotions for hostage families.
This humanity overpowered in the dilemma of releasing butchers amidst trembling fear of what's to come, learning hard, very bloody lessons from releasing over 1,000 Arab terrorists in exchange for 1 Israeli soldier, in the Yigal Shalit deal, years ago. Most notoriously, Yahya Sinwar, the very masterminded Oct/7 massacres.

Sinwar, the admittedly willing to sacrifice 100,000 Arab Palestinians in order to stay in power (as testified by a dentist treating him), and as revealed (per WSJ report June 10, 2024) in his messages, a calculated strategy for maximize Arab Palestinian casualties for its goals.

How sad it is, that the non-Israel side is trying to boast about a "victory," after losing so many people, which includes also non-combatants.


TOPICS: Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: alhusseini; arabnazis; arabs; gaza; hamas; hanas; hostagedeal; humanshields; iran; islamofascism; israel; jews; jihad; muslims; pij; socalledpalestinians; sodom; swordsofiron; waronterror
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1 posted on 01/18/2025 4:08:44 PM PST by Words Matter
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To: Words Matter

June/2024:

Most Palestinians Support October 7 Attack, Dissatisfied With Abbas and Fatah.
https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2024/06/14/most-palestinians-support-october-7-attack-dissatisfied-with-abbas-and-fatah/


2 posted on 01/18/2025 4:09:06 PM PST by Freeleesy
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To: Words Matter

“Excuse the pun, but Arab-Islamic-Palestine textbooks are textbook racism, and deaths glorification [in their jargon “martyrdom”], continuing with officials media official linked sermons. That goes for “moderate” PA too, of course.”

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Well written.


3 posted on 01/18/2025 4:12:04 PM PST by Freeleesy
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To: Freeleesy

Thanks. https://archive.ph/FGUfi


4 posted on 01/18/2025 4:16:43 PM PST by Words Matter
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To: Words Matter

The Gazans rob aid convoys all the time.

Interfering with relief aid is a war crime.

Israel can film the war crimes and arrest the culprits.

Within days it will have hundreds of war criminal Gazans in custody. Many have connections to HAMAS.

Eventually the Gazans will wise up and stop robbing aid convoys, but Israel will then have better bargaining chips in hostage negotiations.


5 posted on 01/18/2025 4:18:48 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Words Matter

How sad it is, that the non-Israel side is trying to boast about a “victory,” after losing so many people, which includes also non-combatants.

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Sad? In whose perspective? That is the reality.


6 posted on 01/18/2025 4:20:16 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie ( @whoisourPresident)
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To: Words Matter

Trump and a Republican Congress could send 1,000 tons of bombs to Isreal in his first week in office, 2,000 the second week, 3,000 the third week, 5,000 tons the fourth week, etc., until our citizens are freed.


7 posted on 01/18/2025 4:21:04 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Words Matter

The Gazans went periodically for operational training. They went so often that Israelis assumed October 7th was just another training day.

On October 7th, it was the real thing.

Israel probably can figure out who went to operational training time after time. Unless individual Gazan suspects have evidence to the contrary, the Israelis should assume the training was put to use.

Israel can round up the trained people without electronic alibis.

I assume young Gazans are like the young people I saw in Spain, ~50% of which were glued to cell phones.


8 posted on 01/18/2025 4:22:13 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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Israel should have offered 10,000 Euro or dollar rewards for each hostage delivered up.

Israel could have driven pairs of specially marked armored personnel carriers around Gaza. A man in the trailing one could have been given a stack of bills and a picture of each hostage arranged in name order.

The reward program could have been publicly announced along with details:
1. armored car pairs
2. second guy in back has the cash
3. have hostage call out his/her full name in Hebrew, face the second armored car and have face clearly visible.
4. have hostage say name of mother and city where born
5. exchange money for hostage
6. if you have additional hostage, say tomorrow in Arabic ‘bokra’
7. future exchange to be at a different place at least one kilometer away


9 posted on 01/18/2025 4:25:47 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Words Matter

Is this the “False Peace” foretold in the Bible?

Daniel 9.27-The Antichrist’s Peace Treaty with Israel Begins Daniel’s Seventieth Week

I don’t think so, but it’s worth considering.


10 posted on 01/18/2025 4:29:01 PM PST by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: Brian Griffin

Absolutely


11 posted on 01/18/2025 4:29:06 PM PST by Freeleesy
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To: All

Update:
Trump told Kristen Welker that he told Bibi “you do what you do”...(meaning, despite the deal, you go on with what you need to do).


12 posted on 01/18/2025 4:32:03 PM PST by Freeleesy
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To: Freeleesy

A Muslim cannot become “moderate” until he/she assumes room temperature.


13 posted on 01/18/2025 4:34:34 PM PST by Redleg Duke (“Time to Play Cowboys and Snowflakes!”)
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To: Words Matter

2000 terrorists for 33 hostages, doesn’t sound like a good deal to me, unless they long impose them first.


14 posted on 01/18/2025 4:53:57 PM PST by Ronald77
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To: Words Matter

I am no statesman, but this sounds like a terrible deal.


15 posted on 01/18/2025 4:57:11 PM PST by coloradan (They're not the mainstream media, they're the gaslight media. It's what they do. )
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To: Words Matter

Wasn’t there some kind of “peace deal” on October 6th?

Palis can’t be trusted.


16 posted on 01/18/2025 4:57:28 PM PST by airborne (Thank you Rush for helping me find FreeRepublic! )
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To: coloradan

This is a typical, uneven Israeli-Arab deal. Kicking the can down the road, middle eastern style.


17 posted on 01/18/2025 5:26:48 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie ( @whoisourPresident)
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To: airborne

Oct 6.. right. Last real Ceasefire date.


18 posted on 01/18/2025 6:38:14 PM PST by Words Matter
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To: Redleg Duke

What is the MODERATOR is PBS’ Islamist Amna Nawaz?


19 posted on 01/18/2025 7:43:11 PM PST by Freeleesy
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To: Words Matter

Massad killed off loads of Hezzies with devices. Every hamas piece of trash is now known — and possibly tagged.
If I were them I’d desperately be seeking an X-ray to look for implants. Or, mebbe just slow melting poisons.


20 posted on 01/18/2025 7:47:26 PM PST by bobbo666
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