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TVs don’t actually cost 98% less than they used to... and other inflation misconceptions
Sherwood ^ | 12/05/2024 | Tom Jones, David Crowther

Posted on 12/16/2024 7:40:08 PM PST by SeekAndFind

It’s still the economy, stupid

By now, we’ve all heard, said, or read one of several versions of the exact same hypothesis: President-elect Donald Trump romped to victory in the election because America had grown sick of feeling the painful pinch of inflation.

Whether the tariff-heavy policies of the incoming administration will keep a lid on higher prices is unknown, but one thing that is inevitable is that inflation will be a hot-button issue for years to come.

What we talk about when we talk about inflation

Let’s start with some basics. Per the Bureau of Labor Statistics, inflation is the “overall general upward price movement of goods and services in an economy,” which seems simple enough, but misconceptions about the inflation data that the BLS publishes each month are still rife.

The most commonly cited measure of inflation in the media, and indeed in economics, is the Consumer Price Index. A gargantuan theoretical basket that contains over 80,000 goods and items from milk and pizzas to rent and energy bills, the CPI is pretty much always the figure that Americans refer to when they discuss whether “inflation is up (or down).”

As we’ve discussed before, one of the biggest disconnects between what economists care about (the bleeding edge of the latest monthly data) and what normal people care about (is my grocery bill more this week than I remember it used to be?) is a simple issue of measurement.

Sticker shock

Furthermore, some individual items are simply more prevalent in our collective minds, and end up capturing the attention of consumers and columnists alike. Take butter, for instance, or eggs: price rises for everyday staples such as these are more likely to spark conversation and stick in the collective American craw than the full shopping cart of goods and services in the CPI.

Gas prices, too. As Kyla Scanlon wrote in her book “In This Economy?” published earlier this year, “bright neon signs on every street corner remind us of how expensive it is to be alive.” It’s little wonder such everyday items are so often linked to the national economic sentiment.

Clearly, the process for tracking the price of everything isn’t easy. In many cases, Bureau workers will — based on data from its regular Consumer Expenditure Surveys — visit certain stores to take monthly measurements of how much groceries cost, or scour America’s biggest pharmacies to assess whether we’re having to spend more on average to buy new medication this month than we were just four weeks earlier. For other goods, some more considered calculation is required.

Televisions, for example…

On the face of it, BLS data shows that television sets now cost 98% less than they did at the turn of the century, while the prices of other goods and services have skyrocketed in the same time frame. But as Steve Reed, an economist for the Bureau of Labor Statistics, explained to Sherwood News, it’s not quite that simple.

Think of a TV from the year 2000. It’s probably a big, ugly block sitting in the corner of a living room. Maybe there’s a VHS player sitting above or below it, there are buttons beneath the thick glass display, and the brand name is proudly displayed front and center on the box itself. Clearly things have moved on a lot in the world of televisions since then, and the BLS, specifically in the way it measures price points for the changing technology, has kept close behind.

For goods like televisions where the features and sometimes fundamental qualities of the product are changing all the time, the BLS makes “hedonic quality adjustments.” Put simply, when a product that the CPI trackers are observing is either updated or replaced entirely by a clearly superior version, the BLS adjusts its price point based on the new model and its enhanced features, taking the improvements into consideration as part of their assessment of whether the price is rising or falling. In the case of TVs, that means that things like larger displays, higher definition, and smart compatibility all likely weighed on the Bureau’s measurement through the years.

Reed told us, “Obviously televisions don’t literally cost 2% of what they used to,” explaining that quality adjustments are major reasons that goods like televisions and computers have trended in the opposite direction to many of the items in the CPI basket. Indeed, while you could quite easily go to any retailer on the market in 2024 and pick up a TV for as much as you’d have paid in 2000, the BLS’s measure accounts for the technology’s advance over the last couple decades, meaning that the standard of the set you could get for the price point has improved massively.

So, if the actual selling price of TVs hasn’t fallen by 98%... does this mean the CPI’s methodology is massively underestimating “true” inflation because of these quality adjustments?

The short answer is... no. That’s primarily because hedonic quality adjustments have only had a small impact on the CPI in aggregate, and sometimes the quality is being adjusted down (think: aging buildings and such). Furthermore, consider the most basic kind of quality adjustment: adjusting for size or quantity. Per the BLS piece “Addressing misconceptions about the Consumer Price Index,” from the Monthly Labor Review in 2008, which discussed the concept of shrinkflation before the term was widely used:

“To take the most straightforward example of quality adjustment, which the CPI handles automatically, suppose the maker of a 1.5-ounce candy bar selling for 75 cents replaces it by the same brand of candy bar, still selling for 75 cents, but weighing only 1.0 ounce. If the shrunken size is ignored, it looks like the price hasn’t changed. The CPI, however, prices candy and most other food items on a per-ounce basis and would automatically record a 50-percent increase in the quality-adjusted price of the item.”

Clearly, an index that blindly wrote down prices without any thought for quality or quantity would be less accurate.

The BLS has published a guide for American consumers on which items are quality adjusted and which aren’t; hedonic adjustments are just one subsection of the quality measures that the authority tracks.

What else are we getting wrong about the CPI?

From a technical standpoint, there’s a number of nuances about the CPI that are sometimes criticized, like hedonic quality adjustments. But arguably the most important misconception is that inflation is the same for all of us.

The BLS boils down over 80,000 items into a single price index, one that is reflective — as best as is practical to be — of the prices in America. The weighting in the index is based on surveys across the country that try to gauge how much people are spending on different goods and services.

But, because of life, liberty, and all that good stuff, everyone in the country spends their money on different things.

That means the CPI is, by definition, specifically wrong for any single person.

It’s pretty much a mathematical certainty.

Alcoholic beverages, for example, account for 0.841% of the CPI in the latest measurement. But what if you don’t drink — or, what if you’re a heavy drinker? That 0.841% is likely to be wrong in your own personal expenditure-inflation basket. Fruits and vegetables are 1.4%, but maybe you eat only a carnivore diet? Maybe you don’t drive a car, or rent a house, buy many new clothes, or have a pet.

Maybe you don’t eat eggs — which topped the inflation lists for many months — meaning that the fact prices are up 60% in recent years won’t have touched you, while your neighbor, who’s a six-egg omelette kinda guy, can’t believe just how bad things are getting this year.

The most impressive achievement of the CPI is that it boils down a wildly complex economy into exactly what people want: a simple barometer they can track with one number and can point to every month. That’s also, probably, it’s biggest drawback, too.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Society
KEYWORDS: bidenflation; cpi; inflation
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1 posted on 12/16/2024 7:40:08 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Admittedly, I didn’t read this yet but the headline reminded me that I saw a 32” Fire TV on Amazon recently for under $100. That’s pretty good compared to times of yore. I remember receiving a 13” color TV as a kid that cost that more than that back when.


2 posted on 12/16/2024 7:47:41 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Texas_Jarhead

Rush used to talk about how the wealthy buying the latest and greatest big screen TV would drive the prices down for everyone else. i think he even said “You’re welcome,” after bragging about a new humongous screen he’d bought.


3 posted on 12/16/2024 8:21:48 PM PST by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: SeekAndFind

Bah...next they’re gonna be telling us long distance calls aren’t cheaper than they used to be...


4 posted on 12/16/2024 8:27:46 PM PST by bigbob (Yes. We ARE going back!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I just paid about the same price for a 65” TV that I paid 10 years ago.Now I have an OLED model!


5 posted on 12/16/2024 8:41:04 PM PST by 31R1O (The people who can control themselves ought to be able to defend themselves from those who can't.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The definition used here is incorrect. Inflation is an increase in the supply of money not an increase in the general price level although increasing the supply almost always causes an increase in prices. The Federal Government running budget deficits and borrowing money against electronic bookkeeping entries causes an increase in the supply of money and inevitably prices.


6 posted on 12/16/2024 8:44:04 PM PST by Oklahoma
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To: SeekAndFind

wow, this chart is stupidly off on the increase in cost of new vehicles.


7 posted on 12/16/2024 8:44:05 PM PST by nicollo (Trump beat the cheat! )
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To: SeekAndFind

He starts with a false and thus misleading definition of inflation. Inflation without a modifying adjective is and only is the increase in the money supply, either absolutely or in ratio to the increase of output in the system. It is caused by borrowint and by, to a lesser extent, fractional bank reserves, and by simply “printing” excess money. “Economists” whn speaking of inflation normally speak, instead, of theConsumer Price Indes, which is periodically manipulated to remove those items in the basket which are rising the fastest. Actual inflation, thus is higher than the numbers quoted and termed “inflation” and will be felt in their real extent by the consumer even as the “economists” say that inflation is coming down when they only mean that the CPI is rising more slowly while actual inflation may not be mitigated at all. No matter how the numbers are mitigated real linflation is reducing the value of incomes at a higher rate than the CPI. The CPI is manipulated, for example, by taking steak out of the basket because people are substituting hamburger for the steak they used to buy. Much is done that way. W may be spending just as much as earlier but we are eating less and lower grades of food


8 posted on 12/16/2024 8:49:40 PM PST by arthurus (covfefe)
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To: SeekAndFind

One of my uncles paid $700 in 1964 for a console color television.

That would be about $9,000 in 2024 money.


9 posted on 12/16/2024 8:50:13 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: SeekAndFind

Appliances used to work for decades. Now lucky if they work for a couple of years. I used a 1976 Magnavox19” TV for thirty years. My mom’s washer & dryer more than twenty years. Mom bought pricey replacements 16 years ago and the washer needs new parts every year, and it still takes two or three times old washer did because it is always acting up and stops repeatedly during cycle days it is unbalanced load when it is not. Stuff is cheaper now, but junk. I could go on with more examples. One difference is the USA used to make appliances that were expensive, bit lasted, and men used to be able to support a family on one income.


10 posted on 12/16/2024 8:56:36 PM PST by PghBaldy (12/14/12 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15/12 - 1030am - Obama team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I just bought a 43” 4K TV for $199...as a computer monitor. In the 90’s a 43” NTSC CRT would have cost a lot more, in ‘old dollars’ too, and the picture was 1000x worse.


11 posted on 12/16/2024 8:59:17 PM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: SeekAndFind

The ever-higher cost of health care goes into most things made [motor vehicles & houses] and services[Harvard] produced in the USA.

Homebuyers probably are paying more for health care than lumber.


12 posted on 12/16/2024 8:59:45 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: PghBaldy

I have a 14-year-old refrigerator.

I buy as simple as possible.


13 posted on 12/16/2024 9:01:38 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: SeekAndFind

Blame LBJ etc. Our money used to have stable value. Notice since 1964, money becomes increasingly worth less. No more silver coins. Prices were apparently fairly stable for most of US history. Now, they’ve conditioned us to accept yearly monetary depreciation. There is a reason people have hated bankers and government crooks for centuries.


14 posted on 12/16/2024 9:05:22 PM PST by PghBaldy (12/14/12 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15/12 - 1030am - Obama team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The average cost of a family’s health coverage is about $25,000/year. Roughly 72% is paid by employers. Consumers pay in the end.


15 posted on 12/16/2024 9:06:24 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin

That is smart. I have some (financially) unwise housemates :)


16 posted on 12/16/2024 9:07:41 PM PST by PghBaldy (12/14/12 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15/12 - 1030am - Obama team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: SeekAndFind

BTTT


17 posted on 12/16/2024 11:04:43 PM PST by nopardons
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To: SeekAndFind

Early 2001, I walked into a Circuit City store in Buckhead (Atlanta). They had a floor model 42” Philips plasma on sale for $15,000, reduced from a MSRP of $25,000 because it was used. Picture looked terrible, it was set to torch mode and had the visible banding typical of early generation plasmas.

My 56” Toshiba rear projection widescreen HDTV (TW56X81) looked much better, cost me $3950 + tax at Hi-Fi Buys in December 1999.

Both prices are considered horrendous these days. I recently saw a 75” Vizeo 4K TV at Walmart for $498 and a 65” off brand for $298.

They had a 98” TCL for $1398, would have pretty much covered the whole wall in smallish family room/den, the wife put the kibosh on any idea of a screen that size.


18 posted on 12/16/2024 11:44:14 PM PST by Roadrunner383
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To: Roadrunner383

And that should be Vizio, not Vizeo.


19 posted on 12/16/2024 11:46:32 PM PST by Roadrunner383
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To: Texas_Jarhead

#2 I bought a 32” Sony Bravia for $900...
I now have a LG 42” tv I bought in 2015 but do not remember the price. Still works great. I have a tv antenna plugged in and a Roku box plugged in and can watch thousands of shows for free using the Youtube app, Pluto tv and several others. Today Amazon sells that size tv for $100 to $200.


20 posted on 12/16/2024 11:52:14 PM PST by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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