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NYT: Why Is Trump Gaining With Black and Hispanic Voters?
Flopping Aces ^ | 10-22-24 | Brother Bob

Posted on 10/22/2024 7:18:16 AM PDT by Starman417

The headline says it all, and it's one of those questions where "If you have to ask the question, you won't understand the answers." But that doesn't stop The Times! They come up with five possible explanations, and to nobody's surprise, they get it wrong. Let's take a look!

In 2016, Donald J. Trump became the Republican nominee and ultimately won the presidency after calling many Mexican immigrants rapists and falsely claiming that Barack Obama was not born in the United States.

Eight years later, the polls suggest that he might well return to the White House by faring better among Black and Hispanic voters combined than any Republican presidential nominee since the enactment of the Civil Rights Act in 1964.

How is this possible? It’s a question I get often, and the latest New York Times/Siena College polls of Black and Hispanic voters nationwide represent our best effort at answering it.

They waste no time getting to the wrong conclusions:
To liberals, Mr. Trump’s views on race, crime and immigration are little more than racist dog whistles
As I've pointed out, when Lefties use the phrase "dog whistle". that's just Leftspeak for "Just because I can't find any evidence to support my views, I'm not about to let that stop me from believing them!" I've also found that it doesn't go over well when you point out to them  that these supposed dog whistles that are only heard by racists only seem to get noticed by Leftists.
Of course, Mr. Trump hasn’t just used dog whistles in his campaigns. Sometimes, he’s used a bullhorn.

During his time in national politics, he has offended millions of Black and Hispanic voters, including by recently saying that Haitian refugees eat cats and dogs and that undocumented immigrants are “poisoning the blood of our country.”

But a sizable minority of Black and Hispanic voters aren’t necessarily so offended.

Yes, the vast majority of nonwhite Americans who don't consume local wildlife and don't want kids in their communities dying of Fentanyl overdoses aren't offended. For that matter, they might find it kind of cool when a presidential candidate works the drive through at McDonald's for a few hours.
It’s obvious, and yet it still doesn't get enough attention.

Many people assume that Democrats win Black and Hispanic voters simply because of the party’s commitment to advancing racial equality, but the role of economic self-interest should not be underestimated. Democrats started winning Black and Hispanic voters in the 1930s, not in the 1960s, because Franklin D. Roosevelt’s New Deal helped redefine the Democrats as the party of the working class, not just the party of the former Confederacy.

Just 20 percent of Hispanic voters and 26 percent of Black voters say the current economic conditions are good or excellent. More than half of both groups say they have “often” cut back on groceries over the last year because of the cost.

To author Nate Cohn's credit, he did acknowledge the Democrats as the party of the Confederacy, even if he stopped short of acknowledging them as the party of slavery. And now we've reached the tipping point where it's become impossible to ignore the consequences of The New Deal and Great Society. Looks like LBJ's prediction was only off by a few decades. Yeah, the empty, shallow promises of eight years of Barry O have come to roost. After Obama decided that scolding black men into voting for Coupmala, Stephen A Smith, one of ESPN's more popular race baiters, lit into Obama. While Smith gets it wrong that government money should be handed out to black Americans, he gets right that if you're struggling to make ends meet or have to cut back on things, it's incredibly insulting to see your tax dollars being used to house and feed people who earned it simply for coming to America illegally.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 2024election; black; hispanic; maga2024; quemala; trump

1 posted on 10/22/2024 7:18:16 AM PDT by Starman417
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To: Starman417
They want him rather than Harris.
2 posted on 10/22/2024 7:19:31 AM PDT by knarf
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To: Starman417

Because they aren’t the helpless idiots Dems portray them to be.


3 posted on 10/22/2024 7:20:40 AM PDT by Roadrunner383
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To: Starman417

They want jobs, not communist slogans.


4 posted on 10/22/2024 7:20:40 AM PDT by Texas resident (Que Mala= Bad Juju.)
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To: knarf

Because people can’t afford to eat?


5 posted on 10/22/2024 7:20:52 AM PDT by WeaslesRippedMyFlesh (there will come a day when FR rejects articles from the NYT, et al. as "Commie trash, no thank you")
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To: Starman417

Black Guy has Tshirt
Trump
or the
Tramp ?


6 posted on 10/22/2024 7:23:18 AM PDT by griswold3 ( Robespierre and Pol Pot were “unburdened by what has been” Harris the "Year Zero" candidate)
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To: Starman417

That cartoon at the top is just awesome!


7 posted on 10/22/2024 7:23:53 AM PDT by piytar (Remember Ashli Babbitt, Rosanne Boyland, and Corey Comperatore!)
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To: Starman417

It’s all identity politics to them and they can’t understand when someone doesn’t behave the way their skin color, nationality, or sex says they should.


8 posted on 10/22/2024 7:27:18 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: Starman417

Cohn missed the argument that Bill Maher often makes: the Dhim has become more and more party with no common sense. They support abolishing the police, allowing men in women’s rest room, allowing the youth to change their gender without parents knowledge, and so on. These are issues that are seen crazy by any reasonable person, regardless of their race/ethnicity.


9 posted on 10/22/2024 8:13:48 AM PDT by paudio (Liberals teach Whites about guilt and shame much better than Christian churches do...)
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To: bigbob

The Hispanic communities are very family and community oriented. I often hire Hispanic people to do work because they are eager to work small jobs.


10 posted on 10/22/2024 8:17:10 AM PDT by cnsmom
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To: knarf

Gender insanity doesn’t play with Latino culture.That is a line they won’t cross. Obama destroyed the black culture and it is very sad.


11 posted on 10/22/2024 8:21:35 AM PDT by cnsmom
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To: Starman417

Because they see “immigrants” getting all the attention and money for one thing. Also, both groups like strong men. Machismo, remember that?


12 posted on 10/22/2024 8:36:48 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (.You will suffer from one: The pain of discipline or the pain of regret. )
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To: All

This reminds me of 2016 when an actually well meaning journalist from NY decided to make a trip to flyover territory to talk to the people there and try to gain an understanding for WHY TRUMP.

So she had her film crew with her and went into what she called a blue collar bar. As if this was going to get her some good information . . . walking into a bar of guys watching sports on TV with a film crew and lighting and expecting to get normal, every day answers.

But no, it was worse than that. What she did was interview “a professor of political science who teaches here in town at the university of” wherever she was.

This lady actually wanted answers. She was trying to do it right. But she understood so little that she went and got a political science professor — an elite Swamp wannabe — and expected from him she would get the attitudes of local black electricians or plumbers.


13 posted on 10/22/2024 8:54:35 AM PDT by Owen
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To: cnsmom

Family oriented, hard working, god fearing Catholic or Charismatic (more kids! either way). If you like your SS check you should thank them.

And they are the ones offended by illegal border crossers and criminals. they came to escape their lawless impoverished country to enter servitude to the Dhim machine. Reagan understood that. They are a natural Trump electorate.

And you can mega ditto that for Haitians.


14 posted on 10/22/2024 9:34:54 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: cnsmom

Just as children aged out of ADHD meds. And big Pharma had to pivot to gender mutilation. Women will age out of abortion and the democrats will have nothing.


15 posted on 10/22/2024 10:16:07 AM PDT by cnsmom
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To: Starman417

“NYT: Why Is Trump Gaining With Black and Hispanic Voters?”

because like everyone who’s not wealthy, the doubling of prices for groceries, rent, insurance, heat, electricity, natural gas, gasoline and everything else has been utterly disastrous ...


16 posted on 10/22/2024 11:35:15 AM PDT by catnipman ((A Vote For The Lesser Of Two Evils Still Counts As A Vote For Evil))
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