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Wow! Nuland basically admits that Ukraine-Russia peace deal, which was close to being finalized in spring 2022, “fell apart” because US, UK & other Western governments “advised” Zelensky government that it was not “good deal”
X ^ | Nuland, the harpy from hell

Posted on 09/08/2024 7:40:03 PM PDT by hardspunned

even though even members of Ukrainian delegation stated in recent interviews that this was very good deal, best deal that Ukraine could get & “very real compromise” & that Ukrainian delegation celebrated it with champagne. She basically confirms statements by ex-Israeli PM, head of Ukrainian delegation, Ukrainian officials close to Zelensky, ex-German chancellor & Turkish FM that US & UK blocked this peace deal, which was close to being finalized.

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To: Ancesthntr
Oligarchs are doing well, fighting hard for Ukraine, all the while getting richer.

Hundreds of thousands dead. Hundreds of thousands, maimed, crippled, shattered. Fathers, brothers, sons, uncles, nephews, the neighbor, dead so bastards like Pedo Joe Biden and his coke head son can get rich off of Ukraine.


21 posted on 09/08/2024 10:23:34 PM PDT by OldHarbor (strained statutory arguments, appeals to inconsistent history, reliance on out-of-circuit authority)
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To: adorno

please don’t continue to be such a putz
the spring ‘22 agreement didn’t give up Ukrainian land despite the lie you will now spew


22 posted on 09/08/2024 10:23:59 PM PDT by A strike ("Rise Peter, kill and eat.")
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To: KC_Conspirator

Thank you.


23 posted on 09/08/2024 10:38:58 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: hardspunned

A lot of blood on this woman’s hands...


24 posted on 09/08/2024 11:24:59 PM PDT by Buck-Toothed Knuckle Dragger
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To: Widget Jr
In 2008, NATO said they wouldn't allow Ukraine to join.

In 2014, the US put their guy in power in Ukraine.

For years before the Russians invaded, the Azov Ukrainians were bombing Russian communities in the Donbas.

25 posted on 09/08/2024 11:39:51 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (Kafka was an optimist.)
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To: OldHarbor
Excellent post! Great cartoon!

And that putz Biden shaking his invisible box, just like Kambala.

26 posted on 09/08/2024 11:40:40 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: hardspunned

Similar to July 1914, Austria pens the famous ‘ultimatum’ letter to Serbia following the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand. Serbia is amenable to capitulating, until Great Britain steps in and advises them it’s not a good deal. One month later, in August, The Great War kicks off.


27 posted on 09/09/2024 12:16:11 AM PDT by KobraKai
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To: OldHarbor

Old Joe. The only animal he comes close to is the Death Adder.

A slimy serpent. He will burn in a lake of fire for his crimes.


28 posted on 09/09/2024 12:20:25 AM PDT by Chuck N
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To: adorno

Yes it will be so much better to have sacrificed a generation of Ukrainian men and lose MORE territory in the end. That was the smart play here.


29 posted on 09/09/2024 2:32:46 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: hardspunned
Victoria Nuland is one of the MOST EVIL people that was EVER in our government!!

She needs a GOOD EXORCISM BY HER RABBI!

30 posted on 09/09/2024 3:11:49 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: adorno

All this was necessary because of the Nuland Coup. This entire debacle is America’s to own. Our corrupt Biden was point man in Ukraine. Biden and his associates should swing from a tree or lamp post for what they have done to the world, first with Covid and then Ukraine.


31 posted on 09/09/2024 4:01:44 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: Widget Jr

Together with what Nuland, Boris Johnson, Angie Merkel and others have said, she only reinforced and provided more details to what is becoming the official narrative. These details only come out because someone wanted it out there. Time to dump the EU and US globalists.


32 posted on 09/09/2024 4:03:54 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: A strike

Blinken the idiot has talked recently too about how the US enssentially forced Russia to move into Ukraine in Feburary 2022. Our lies and broken promises and military moves forced a Russian reaction.

In 2014 Russia responded to the Ukrainian official policy de-Russianization and ethenic cleansing.


33 posted on 09/09/2024 4:06:49 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: hardspunned

Very simple, it was a lopsided deal that favored Putin and neutered Ukraine.


34 posted on 09/09/2024 5:12:38 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: hardspunned
Wow! Nuland basically admits that Ukraine-Russia peace deal

Complete nonsense, there was no "peace deal". Putin demanded Ukraine's complete surrender

Russia did not want peace, only the capitulation of Ukraine. Jakub Kumoch, former Secretary of State of President Andrzej Duda, who accompanied the Ukrainian delegation to negotiations with Russia in Belarus and Turkey in the spring of 2022, told the newspaper The Polish Times.

Let us call it mildly: singularly. It was a draft with the comments of both sides. The document was clearly prepared before the Russian invasion and by the Russians. He provided, among other things, the recognition of the annexation of Crimea, the so-called independence of the eastern regions of Ukraine, the reduction of the size of the Ukrainian army, bilingualism, the ban on joining NATO, perpetual neutrality, etc. There were also purely demeaning elements, such as a commitment to denazification or the introduction of the Great Patriotic War, as the Russians call their contribution to World War II. Things that A State never imposes on State B. Meanwhile, Russia has brought in the entire list of laws that Ukraine is to change. It began with the Constitution.

https://i.pl/jakub-kumoch-ujawnia-kulisy-negocjacji-rosja-nie-chciala-pokoju-tylko-kapitulacji-ukrainy/ar/c1p2-26324503

35 posted on 09/09/2024 5:20:53 AM PDT by tlozo (Russia is ruled by a psychologically deranged dictator and worst of all, it obediently follows)
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To: hardspunned

you put a comment from twitter as the basis for your theorem??

really?


36 posted on 09/09/2024 5:23:14 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Jumper
All this was necessary because of the Nuland Coup.

Picture of supposed "Nuland Coup" or as normal people would say the rejection by the populace of Ukraine of a lying, dictatorial president

Sunday, December 8, 2013 about 800,000 people poured into Independence Square (Maidan) in the city center of Kyiv to protest actions taken by the government of President Viktor Yanukovych.


37 posted on 09/09/2024 5:28:02 AM PDT by tlozo (Russia is ruled by a psychologically deranged dictator and worst of all, it obediently follows)
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To: tlozo; hardspunned

Thanks for that tlozo -—> Harspunned, your post is making stuff up


38 posted on 09/09/2024 5:34:12 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Jumper; A strike

Before 2014 there was zero talk even among the russians of “de-Russianization and ethnic cleansing” - and there hasn’t been even since then


39 posted on 09/09/2024 5:55:04 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: foundedonpurpose

Next you will say that Russia will only take 3 days to take Ukraine, with no Russian sources to be found for that quote anywhere.
———-
That quote is from twinkle toes Miley.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/gen-milley-says-kyiv-could-fall-within-72-hours-if-russia-decides-to-invade-ukraine-sources

Milley told lawmakers that “Kyiv could fall within 72 hours if a full-scale Russian invasion of Ukraine occurs”

So once again we can see how ill informed many war cheerleaders are.


40 posted on 09/09/2024 6:23:21 AM PDT by delta7
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