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Wow! Nuland basically admits that Ukraine-Russia peace deal, which was close to being finalized in spring 2022, “fell apart” because US, UK & other Western governments “advised” Zelensky government that it was not “good deal”
X ^ | Nuland, the harpy from hell

Posted on 09/08/2024 7:40:03 PM PDT by hardspunned

even though even members of Ukrainian delegation stated in recent interviews that this was very good deal, best deal that Ukraine could get & “very real compromise” & that Ukrainian delegation celebrated it with champagne. She basically confirms statements by ex-Israeli PM, head of Ukrainian delegation, Ukrainian officials close to Zelensky, ex-German chancellor & Turkish FM that US & UK blocked this peace deal, which was close to being finalized.

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Watch this evil, smiling harpy from hell tell, with glee in her eyes, how the peace was strangled in its cradle.

Worst of worst. This evil bitch is much worse than even Hillary.

1 posted on 09/08/2024 7:40:03 PM PDT by hardspunned
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To: hardspunned

A deal in which you have to surrender part of your land to an aggressor, is never a good deal. Don’t ever reward aggression with any kind of surrender, because if you do, you will be surrendering more of your land to that same aggressor in the future. and before you know it, there will be nothing left to fight for.


2 posted on 09/08/2024 7:49:36 PM PDT by adorno (CCH)
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To: hardspunned

Old news. Next you will say that Russia will only take 3 days to take Ukraine, with no Russian sources to be found for that quote anywhere.


3 posted on 09/08/2024 7:50:40 PM PDT by foundedonpurpose (Praise Hashem, for his restoration of all things! )
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To: hardspunned

Ukraine has listened to the U.S., and UK one too many times. They listened to the the Clinton Administration, and the U.S. Ambassador to Hungary, Donald Blinken (father of Antony Blinken), at the OSCE Summit in Hungary in 1994, and signed on to the Budapest Memorandum, and willingly gave up their nukes for a promise, which has allowed corrupt members of our government to manipulate, and stage what goes on in Ukraine, ever since.


4 posted on 09/08/2024 7:54:18 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: adorno

The agreement did not explicitly call for the Ukraine to surrender significant territory


5 posted on 09/08/2024 7:54:59 PM PDT by rdcbn1
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To: hardspunned

Ukraine is an economic rape. The scraps are even worth incredible gain to opportunists.


6 posted on 09/08/2024 7:57:08 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: adorno

I am with you. It’s always nice to run into someone who agrees every Ukrainian needs to die.


7 posted on 09/08/2024 7:59:44 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: adorno

“A deal in which you have to surrender part of your land to an aggressor, is never a good deal.”

As always, one side tires of dying before the other.

And they have to take whatever deal is offered, good or bad.


8 posted on 09/08/2024 8:13:20 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: ConservativeMind

“ I am with you. It’s always nice to run into someone who agrees every Ukrainian needs to die.”
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Just the adult males. The Albanians need the young women and children to traffic. ZEEPERS revel in this.


9 posted on 09/08/2024 8:14:36 PM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MAX)
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To: hardspunned

We knew this over a year ago.


10 posted on 09/08/2024 8:19:22 PM PDT by roving (Deplorable Erectionists Listless Vessel )
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To: hardspunned

Zelensky is an absolute traitor to his country.


11 posted on 09/08/2024 8:48:04 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: adorno

“A deal in which you have to surrender part of your land to an aggressor, is never a good deal. Don’t ever reward aggression with any kind of surrender, because if you do, you will be surrendering more of your land to that same aggressor in the future. and before you know it, there will be nothing left to fight for.”

The Palestinians agree with you completely


12 posted on 09/08/2024 9:21:25 PM PDT by pigeoninthepark
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To: mass55th

Very well said.


13 posted on 09/08/2024 9:25:38 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: hardspunned
What she actually said, from the YouTube transcript:

55:25 ...it became clear to us uh clear to the Brits
55:32 clear to others that Putin's main condition was
55:38 buried in an Annex uh to this document that they were working on and it
55:45 included limits on the precise kinds of Weapons Systems that Ukraine could have
55:52 after the deal such that Ukraine would basically be neutered as a military
55:58 force and there were no similar constraints on Russia Russia wasn't required to pull back Russia wasn't
56:05 wasn't required to have a buffer zone from the Ukrainian border wasn't required to have the same constraints on
56:11 its military facing Ukraine um and so uh
56:17 people inside Ukraine and people outside Ukraine started asking questions about whether this was a good deal and it was
56:23 at that point that it that it fell apart...
Nuland never said the Brits or US blocked the deal. People in and outside Ukraine, questioned if it was a good deal at all becks it left door open for Russia to invade again while leaving Ukraine defenseless. This assumes Russia would follow through on its end, which no one took seriously. The reality is the deal Putin offered was so bad Zelensky didn't need anyone to tell him it was telegraphing Putin would never honor it.
14 posted on 09/08/2024 9:46:11 PM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦 🛇 CCCP 2.0 🛇)
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To: Widget Jr

bttt


15 posted on 09/08/2024 9:52:17 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: adorno
Japan surrendered land to Russia and was doing quite well until recently. Same for Germany.

Sometimes it pays to cry 'Uncle'.

16 posted on 09/08/2024 9:58:40 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (Kafka was an optimist.)
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To: Widget Jr
Why would Russia want to bomb Ukraine at that time?

This was just NATO paranoia.

17 posted on 09/08/2024 9:59:55 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (Kafka was an optimist.)
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To: adorno

So now they have lost 500,000 men in their 20s and 30s, killing their population in the future, their country has been thoroughly destroyed and the Russians are likely to keep much more of their country than in this peace deal of 2 1/2 years ago. Sometimes you make a strategic retreat to be able to survive to fight another day, and be far better prepared when it happens.


18 posted on 09/08/2024 10:13:33 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." - The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: hardspunned

hundreds of thousands of deaths on evil vampiress Vicky


19 posted on 09/08/2024 10:20:02 PM PDT by A strike ("Rise Peter, kill and eat.")
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
I think you are mistaken on the sequence of events (?). Russia invaded Ukraine February 22, 2022.
The negotiations discussed in this interview were between March and April of that year.
The Russian military was trying to conqueror Ukraine before these negotiations started.
20 posted on 09/08/2024 10:21:32 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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