Posted on 08/26/2024 9:50:28 AM PDT by grundle
You know things are serious when big tech hops aboard.
It’s easy to see why battery tech advancements are all the buzz in the EV scene these days. I mean, anyone who’s anyone in the automotive and motorcycle industries is working hard in pushing the bounds of electrification.
But up to now, the biggest hurdle when it comes to EVs is reducing charging time and increasing range. This is where solid-state (SS) batteries enter the picture. We’ve been talking about these things here on RideApart for quite some time now. And the potential they have in the future of mobility is simply undeniable.
Now, some of the biggest players in the tech industry are hopping aboard the SS battery bandwagon in full force. For example, at the SNE Battery Day 2024 Expo in Seoul, South Korea, none other than Samsung showcased its latest battery technology: an EV-specific solid-state oxide battery with some impressive claims.
How does a 20-year lifespan and a nine-minute charging time sound?
Plus, Samsung’s solid-state battery comes with all the perks associated with these types of batteries including lighter weight and improved safety thanks to a more stable thermal balance. But perhaps the best part is that Samsung’s solid-state battery tech has around 500 watt-hours per kilogram. That’s nearly double the energy density of the batteries found in most EVs today. And so in the real world, we could be looking at about 600 miles of range on a single charge.
Indeed, at present, Samsung’s already working with big automakers to incorporate its solid-state battery tech into tomorrow’s EVs. Toyota and Samsung have agreed to begin mass production of SS batteries in 2027, with Toyota noting that its premium Lexus vehicles will be among the first to benefit from this new tech.
Now, if you’re thinking that all this sounds too good to be true, well, that’s because it kinda is. There definitely is a catch, and that catch is the fact that these ultra-fast charging batteries require some pretty solid infrastructure for you to get the claimed nine-minute charge time. If we look at China, whose EV makers offer similar charging speeds, 480kW and sometimes even 600kW chargers are an absolute must. But even in China, charging stations of this capacity are far and few in between.
So the real challenge here isn’t so much whether or not it’s possible—we know that it certainly is—but rather, how quickly ultra-fast-charging infrastructure can be made available to the masses.
Then, of course, there’s the issue of cost. At present, it costs way more to manufacture solid-state EV batteries than Lithium-ion and LFP batteries found in current EVs—around three or four times, to be specific. Perhaps that’s why Toyota plans on introducing solid-state batteries on its Lexus vehicles first, where profit margins are much higher.
At the end of the day, the advancement of solid-state batteries is a good thing for everyone. Sure, at the moment, they’re super expensive and require specialized tech to make the most out of. But less than 20 years ago, SSDs were super expensive and HDDs were the norm. But now, even boomers have SSDs in their laptops and home computers.
Who’s to say that in the next 20 years, or maybe even less, SS batteries will be the standard for EVs?
And it costs just $55,000!
That’s why they’re putting them in very high end EVs ,LOL
Game changer? It costs 3-4 times the already high costs of the batteries for today's failures.
If you want an EV that's OK with me, but I own a Chevy Impala, V-6, runs like a top, and fills a tank of gas in less than 5 minutes.
There are gas stations on every corner and I have not run out of gas since I was a stupid, young buck back in the 60's {and I bought a quart of beer instead of a gallon of gas, both cost twenty five cents and I only had a quarter}. OPPPS
Can’t have the Proles driving around all over creation for free.................
I have also found several sites reporting this news, some with more technical and financial details (concerning the SSD and silver-based claim). If true, this is truly a game-changer for the precious metals (silver), EV, auto, and oil/gas industries...
The problem with EV’s has been three-fold:
1. Range
2. Charging time
3. Infrastructure
At 600 miles, this solves problem 1.
At 9 minutes recharging time this solves problem 2.
Number 3 is the elephant in the room and the thorniest of problems.
Generating the power currently involves primarily coal and natural gas plants. Because physics is physics, you are shifting the burning of fuel from the car, where emissions is controlled, to the power plant, where it is less so. Because of inefficiencies in transmitting the power and converting it into motion, it takes more fuel to power an EV than it does an ICE. We do have about 20% of our power coming from renewable sources, but that doesn’t quite overcome the inefficiencies.
Distributing the power will require an upgrade to our grid with estimates of $2 to $5 trillion dollars required to enable 80% of our vehicles to be electric.
Converting gas stations to charging stations will be very costly. Unattended charging station has been prone to vandalism and are inherently unreliable. The solution is, of course, to have charging stations monitored, much like gas stations.
Until we get the infrastructure addressed widespread adoption of EVs is going to be hamstrung.
Interesting. So far, mostly talk-talk.
Will decide later if it belongs in the same bin as Rossi and his LENR gizmo.
Lots of anti green and climate change rhetoric leaking into public sources of late. For instance ford backing off their EV mandate along with Volkswagen and the reduction of Atlantic expected hurricanes and a recent decline in Atlantic Ocean temps (still high though). Any way, the trend is your friend.
Charging/Range Anxiety will be the world largest mental illness if the environmental nuts get their way
No mention of price or charging station specs. You probably need 1000 amps at 240 volts. Forget about charging at home.
We are a long way from mini nuclear reactors. One probably unsolvable problem is security.
If it wasn’t for new battery technologies no one would have a phone in their pocket.
“600-Mile Solid-State EV Battery...”
Gonna require a helluva wheel base.
If you can’t charge at home, forget it.
What would the charge time be for this at the current high end up scaled charging set ups that currently cost EV customers many thousands to install?
and, can those consumers count on their local grid supplyi ng their very expensive charging station with sufficient juice to operate at peak?
Let’s not forget who built phones a few years ago that exploded and caught fire in people’s pockets prompting a Total recall.
>> Look at the number of gas stations in your town, then imagine the number of new substations that would have to be built to construct an equal number of charging stations.
Think of all the copper that can be stolen for scrap!
Ahhh.....but it ME who likes the way YOU think.
Wish there were more of us.
The unspoken objective of the EV lobby and the America-haters who support it, is to get the mass of population out of their personal vehicles and back into/onto bicycles, buses and other mass transport. This idiotic technology will only be accessible to the elites due to never-ending infrastructure support costs especially when wedded to governmental and political prohibitions which will outlaw the gasoline engine. These people do not believe anyone has the right to unbridled freedom which is what ICE technology and the US auto industry have given to everyone in America for over one hundred years.
They should be using their superior intellects instead to find a way to solve the tremendous auto insurance industry ripoff being perpetrated on honest drivers who are being forced to pay for the losses caused by the masses of moronic idiots who drive without insurance and in a lot of cases without licenses either. All thanks to local prosecutors and judges who have de-criminalized these practices calling them victim-less (really) crimes and economic crimes and refusing to enforce the laws against these horrific practices people are being allowed to literally get away with every day and night of the week on our roads and streets and highways.
600-Mile Solid-State EV Battery, Charges in 9 Minutes so why buy the current outdated EVs that they have now , EV industry destroying itself ,LOL
No need for concern: EVs are immune to the laws of physics. Magical, really.
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