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Samsung Just Showed a 600-Mile Solid-State EV Battery, Charges in 9 Minutes
rideapart.com ^ | July 31, 2024 | Enrico Punsalang

Posted on 08/26/2024 9:50:28 AM PDT by grundle

You know things are serious when big tech hops aboard.

It’s easy to see why battery tech advancements are all the buzz in the EV scene these days. I mean, anyone who’s anyone in the automotive and motorcycle industries is working hard in pushing the bounds of electrification.

But up to now, the biggest hurdle when it comes to EVs is reducing charging time and increasing range. This is where solid-state (SS) batteries enter the picture. We’ve been talking about these things here on RideApart for quite some time now. And the potential they have in the future of mobility is simply undeniable.

Now, some of the biggest players in the tech industry are hopping aboard the SS battery bandwagon in full force. For example, at the SNE Battery Day 2024 Expo in Seoul, South Korea, none other than Samsung showcased its latest battery technology: an EV-specific solid-state oxide battery with some impressive claims.

How does a 20-year lifespan and a nine-minute charging time sound?

Plus, Samsung’s solid-state battery comes with all the perks associated with these types of batteries including lighter weight and improved safety thanks to a more stable thermal balance. But perhaps the best part is that Samsung’s solid-state battery tech has around 500 watt-hours per kilogram. That’s nearly double the energy density of the batteries found in most EVs today. And so in the real world, we could be looking at about 600 miles of range on a single charge.

Indeed, at present, Samsung’s already working with big automakers to incorporate its solid-state battery tech into tomorrow’s EVs. Toyota and Samsung have agreed to begin mass production of SS batteries in 2027, with Toyota noting that its premium Lexus vehicles will be among the first to benefit from this new tech.

Now, if you’re thinking that all this sounds too good to be true, well, that’s because it kinda is. There definitely is a catch, and that catch is the fact that these ultra-fast charging batteries require some pretty solid infrastructure for you to get the claimed nine-minute charge time. If we look at China, whose EV makers offer similar charging speeds, 480kW and sometimes even 600kW chargers are an absolute must. But even in China, charging stations of this capacity are far and few in between.

So the real challenge here isn’t so much whether or not it’s possible—we know that it certainly is—but rather, how quickly ultra-fast-charging infrastructure can be made available to the masses.

Then, of course, there’s the issue of cost. At present, it costs way more to manufacture solid-state EV batteries than Lithium-ion and LFP batteries found in current EVs—around three or four times, to be specific. Perhaps that’s why Toyota plans on introducing solid-state batteries on its Lexus vehicles first, where profit margins are much higher.

At the end of the day, the advancement of solid-state batteries is a good thing for everyone. Sure, at the moment, they’re super expensive and require specialized tech to make the most out of. But less than 20 years ago, SSDs were super expensive and HDDs were the norm. But now, even boomers have SSDs in their laptops and home computers.

Who’s to say that in the next 20 years, or maybe even less, SS batteries will be the standard for EVs?


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To: grundle

Samsung Just Showed a 600-Mile Solid-State EV Battery, Charges in 9 Minutes

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Can power an EV 600 miles, charge in 9 minutes, and burn to a crisp in 60 seconds!


21 posted on 08/26/2024 10:08:03 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie ( @whoisourPresident)
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To: grundle

Why do you need anything like this in a 15-minute city where your every transaction is controlled by Central Bank Digital Currency?


22 posted on 08/26/2024 10:08:49 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page. More photos added.)
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To: PGR88

any day now :)


23 posted on 08/26/2024 10:09:17 AM PDT by xp38
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To: grundle

Di-lithium crystals are the answer….


24 posted on 08/26/2024 10:09:33 AM PDT by wny
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To: Gary from Dayton

Meh. Maybe a game changer if they don’t blow up and burn your house down.


25 posted on 08/26/2024 10:09:52 AM PDT by subterfuge (I'm a pure-blood!)
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To: xoxox

Good to know the EST burn time on them. 🚗🔋🔥

Perhaps the VP 🛐 has an answer.


26 posted on 08/26/2024 10:10:13 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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To: grundle
Few questions(to the Green Fanatics):

Where and how do you dispose of them

Can they power speakers to make the sound system produce a Muscle Car exhaust sound, like the "NEW" hi-tech electrics?

How do you extinguish the fires when they burn?

Will home-owners insurance cover the costs of a house fire when they burn down from a car battery fire?

How many TONS of toxic wasted will this create, and has an environmental impact "study" been done?

27 posted on 08/26/2024 10:10:55 AM PDT by traditional2 ("Is it them, again, Yogi?")
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uh huh...whats it do at 10 below zero..


28 posted on 08/26/2024 10:11:27 AM PDT by basalt
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To: grundle
Then, of course, there’s the issue of cost.

They address the manufacturing cost, not the cost to owners to recharge the thing.

29 posted on 08/26/2024 10:11:38 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

And the battery is 99% recyclable.


30 posted on 08/26/2024 10:11:51 AM PDT by Leep (Re-elect deep state. 2024!)
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To: wny
"Di-lithium crystals are the answer…"


31 posted on 08/26/2024 10:13:15 AM PDT by Frank Drebin (And don't ever let me catch you guys in America!)
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To: grundle

Still, far too many disqualifiers:

infrastrucure
cost
replacement cost
weight
tire wear
road damage
material sourcing
power sourcing (nuclear)
destroying our dominate oil/gas industries and detrimental affects on economy

....for starters


32 posted on 08/26/2024 10:13:24 AM PDT by chiller (Davey Crockett said: "Be sure you're right. Then go ahead'. I'll go ahead.)
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To: grundle

If we didn’t have the gov mandates, hybrids would be an ideal test bed. aif the tech succeeds and is accordable the hybrids would largely give way to EVs down the road, without forcing anybody to make or buy anything.


33 posted on 08/26/2024 10:13:35 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye." (John 2:5))
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To: grundle

So my diesel pickup truck gets 15 mpg and has a 30-gallon tank. I can go from empty to full in about 5 min, depending on which pump I am at (some pumps are slow). Granted, that is about 450 miles instead of 600, but it is 1/2 the time.

So, for a 9-minute refueling, I can get about 900 miles in range.


34 posted on 08/26/2024 10:14:15 AM PDT by taxcontrol (The choice is clear - either live as a slave on your knees or die as a free citizen on your feet.)
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To: Gary from Dayton

If we look at China, whose EV makers offer similar charging speeds, 480kW and sometimes even 600kW chargers are an absolute must.

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600kW = 804 HP; The article itself tells you why this is impractical. Once again the details tell you this is folly.


35 posted on 08/26/2024 10:19:24 AM PDT by mund1011 (We can ignore reality, but we cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality)
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To: grundle
They can have a battery that RECHARGES in 30 seconds.. they are still confronted with BUILDING a MASSIVE supportive ELECTRICAL GRID.. including MULTIPLE and MASSIVE GENERATION sources, which in my opinion will take longer that when President Eisenhower began building America's INTERSTATE highway system.

Has anyone seen Toyota's recent announcement on a motor that runs on WATER that generates HYDROGEN FUEL?

NOT a JOKE.. a Car that RUNS on WATER!

TOYOTA CEO: THIS NEW ENGINE WILL END ELECTRIC CARS,"
SAYS TOYOTA CEO ABOUT HIS CREATION

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIxT6rK02lk

36 posted on 08/26/2024 10:20:10 AM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: grundle
Now, if you’re thinking that all this sounds too good to be true, well, that’s because it kinda is. There definitely is a catch, and that catch is the fact that these ultra-fast charging batteries require some pretty solid infrastructure for you to get the claimed nine-minute charge time. If we look at China, whose EV makers offer similar charging speeds, 480kW and sometimes even 600kW chargers are an absolute must. But even in China, charging stations of this capacity are far and few in between.

You'd need a 6 mW substation to power a single 10 bay charging station.

Look at the number of gas stations in your town, then imagine the number of new substations that would have to be built to construct an equal number of charging stations.

37 posted on 08/26/2024 10:22:34 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
"Wake me up when the charge time is 9 seconds and range is 1,000 miles."

I live in an apartment in a small city. The owner of this complex who owns quite a bit of other real estate in the city, aren't going to put in charging stations for their tenants. And the Government will never produce enough charging stations to accommodate the whole population of this country with their electric car mandate. Biden wasted 5 billion dollars, and only got 8 charging stations on line with it.

Projects like that are simply ways to fill the pockets of their friends, family, and big donors. It's no different than Obama and Biden giving billions in grants to multiple solar panel companies, that either went out of business or went bankrupt shortly after...i.e., Solyndra.

RAT-run State governments do the same thing...i.e., Andrew Cuomo in New York, blowing wads of taxpayer money on projects that never got off the ground, and even had a close aide charged with Federal crimes for his role in the projects...but the boss somehow never gets caught.

38 posted on 08/26/2024 10:24:23 AM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: grundle

... and it only requires a single 10 Megawatt charging source.


39 posted on 08/26/2024 10:25:01 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (לעזאזל עם חמאס)
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To: grundle

Maybe we should train large draft animals to pull us around in carts?


40 posted on 08/26/2024 10:26:55 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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