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Local Counter Snipers w/ View of Rooftop Pulled from Posts Minutes before Trump Shooting
Headline USA ^ | July 23, 2024 | Ken Silva

Posted on 07/23/2024 3:16:56 PM PDT by iontheball

Ken Silva, Headline USA) Pennsylvania State Police Commissioner Christopher L. Paris testified before the House Homeland Security Committee on Tuesday about the July 13 assassination attempt against presidential frontrunner Donald Trump.

Unlike the now-former Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle—who resigned Tuesday after refusing to answer a bevy of basic questions the day before—Paris’s testimony revealed new info about what happened leading up to the shooting at the Butler, Pa., Trump rally.

One of the more shocking revelations from Paris’s testimony was his claim that Butler County Emergency Services Unit counter snipers were stationed with a view from the rooftop where alleged shooter Thomas Crooks fired at Trump.

Those counter snipers were pulled from their positions to search for Crooks after identifying him as a suspicious person around 5:14 p.m., according to Paris. The shooting occurred at 6:11 p.m. It’s not clear exactly when the snipers left their post.

(Excerpt) Read more at headlineusa.com ...


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Very interesting development. The PA State Police Commissioner Paris claims there was a Butler County Emergency Services Unit of 'counter snipers' posted at the second floor window but for some reason BOTH individuals left their post to look for Crooks just before the shooting. Was this time enough for a bad guy shooting team to assume the ESU position? Paris didn't indicate if the original counter snipers returned and reassumed their post or just disappear or who ordered them away from their post in the first place. It just adds another layer of confusion to the Butler shooting. I still maintain that whoever was on the second floor at the time of the shooting were bad guys shooting toward the Trump stage area. I can't say if the first round came from Crooks on the roof or from the second floor window, but perhaps forensic ballistic analysis can nail it down.
1 posted on 07/23/2024 3:16:56 PM PDT by iontheball
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“What difference does it make... Trey?”


2 posted on 07/23/2024 3:23:23 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist! )
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To: iontheball

I just read the opposite somewhere yesterday in another article.

It said, when a suspicious person is spotted, all agents remain at their posts, instead of searching for the person.

Because that person might be trying to draw them away from their posts.


3 posted on 07/23/2024 3:32:41 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: iontheball

posted at the second floor window


The above says they were stationed with a view from the roof top.


4 posted on 07/23/2024 3:34:16 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (In a world of parrots and lemmings, be a watchdog.)
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To: iontheball

“with a view from the rooftop where alleged shooter Thomas Crooks fired at Trump.”

the local counter snipers were on that very roof, left and Thomas went up there?

or were the snipers on another building with view OF the rooftop Thomas was soon up on?


5 posted on 07/23/2024 3:46:52 PM PDT by b4me (Pray, and let God change you. He knows better than you or anyone else, who He made you to be.)
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To: iontheball
Who pulls an overwatch position to perform regular watch tasks? That leaves the whole field of operation exposed.

-PJ

6 posted on 07/23/2024 3:46:57 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: iontheball
Think of this for a conspiracy theory...

The deep state decides to get BOTH Trump and Biden out of the race. Biden is just getting too unreliable and senile and might accidently say something he shouldn't about their plans, and Trump has always been a huge threat to them. The gullible young man they contacted online and trained was supposed to "take care" of Trump on Saturday but failed, what should have been an easy shot. But the Biden plan worked well enough, just slip him something to simulate a health scare, and he drops out the race, maybe hangs on for a month or two before dying "of natural causes".

Problem is that the deep state finds themselves only halfway to their goal. So, do they throw everything behind Kamala and just hope for the best or take another crack at Trump?

7 posted on 07/23/2024 3:52:08 PM PDT by apillar
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To: apillar

Rowe, dem operative, takes over SS. Given lack of bio data apparently was put out to pasture during Trump years.


8 posted on 07/23/2024 3:53:31 PM PDT by Bookshelf
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To: apillar

They take another crack at Trump.

“When you strike at a king, you must kill him”


9 posted on 07/23/2024 3:57:33 PM PDT by null and void (I identify as a conspiracy theorist. My personal pronouns are told/you/so.)
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To: iontheball
I found the article on Fox News.

It quotes a retired NYPD inspector:

"A lot of people have been saying, ‘Why didn’t they go chase them down an hour before the event?' When you're that close to event time, you have to guard against a diversion. . . Somebody sets something off as a diversion, and now the principal is left unguarded."

So, they shouldn't have been pulled from their post.

10 posted on 07/23/2024 4:03:23 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Tired of Taxes
Because that person might be trying to draw them away from their posts.

Makes sense. Think of all the poorly written movie plots where the heroes create a distraction and the dumb-as-rocks bad guys scamper off in pursuit of a decoy, clearing the path for the heroes to waltz in.

11 posted on 07/23/2024 4:06:02 PM PDT by EnderWiggin1970
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To: b4me

A congressman took video from the room they were in. The police could see the entire backside of the roof the shooter was climbing on.

They could have shot the gunman had they not been called away.


12 posted on 07/23/2024 4:06:31 PM PDT by packagingguy
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To: b4me

Sorry didn’t complete the answer: the police were in an adjacent building.


13 posted on 07/23/2024 4:08:16 PM PDT by packagingguy
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No, they just had to look out the window and they could see the entire roof, that Crooks climbed on, as well as the stage and barns, where Trump and the other snipers were located.

They were so close, they could have thrown a rock and hit him with it.

14 posted on 07/23/2024 4:08:58 PM PDT by Ez2BRepub (Democrats suck)
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To: Tired of Taxes

Bull hockey, if it had been FJB they’d of shot with no permission, little on 3 requests.


15 posted on 07/23/2024 4:12:52 PM PDT by GailA (Land Grabs, Poisoned Food, KILL the COWS, Bidenomics=BIDEN DEPRESSION. STAGNATION)
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To: GailA

Fear not, the FBI and DHS will investigate themselves and conclude they know nothing, saw nothing, heard nothing. SGT Shultz to do the briefing (it will be brief: “We dindonuthing”).


16 posted on 07/23/2024 4:17:58 PM PDT by OldArmy52 (Resisting criminals is a punishable offense )
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To: EnderWiggin1970

Agreed - it makes perfect sense.

I linked the article in post #10, right above your post.

That article also says a mobile response team is supposed to chase down anything suspicious.

So, everyone assigned to a post should have stayed put, while another team’s job should have been to follow Crooks and anyone else suspicious.


17 posted on 07/23/2024 4:27:05 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: iontheball

A better explanation: Hanlon’s Razor - “never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.” In other words, rather than questioning people’s intentions, question their competence.


18 posted on 07/23/2024 4:32:57 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke

nully’s knife: “Never attribute to malice OR stupidity that which is best explained by malice AND stupidity.”


19 posted on 07/23/2024 4:50:35 PM PDT by null and void (I identify as a conspiracy theorist. My personal pronouns are told/you/so.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

The above says they were stationed with a view from the roof top.
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They were posted on the second floor of the building at the window looking right out on the Crooks’ rooftop. Obviously, if they hadn’t left their post, Crooks would never have been able to assume his shooting position. Is this just another ‘unfortunate’ security circumstance or something more sinister?

Unfortunately so many (not you) throw around language that confuses the reader. The writer said: “One of the more shocking revelations from Paris’s testimony was his claim that Butler County Emergency Services Unit counter snipers were stationed with a view from the rooftop where alleged shooter Thomas Crooks fired at Trump.” Obviously, the writer should have used the word “of” rather than “from.” In doing so he only confuses the readers. Is the writer just sloppy or is there something else going on?


20 posted on 07/23/2024 5:14:03 PM PDT by iontheball
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