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Deep State Pushing Trump VP Choices as Secret Service Ramps Up Security Detail
The Last Refuge - Conservative Treehouse ^ | June 21, 2024 | Sundance

Posted on 06/23/2024 7:20:33 AM PDT by jacknhoo

A couple of quick hot points from the 2024 presidential race and Trump side of the equation.

♦ First, we can ignore all of the typical pre-debate banter about who is doing what in the lead-up to the Trump v Biden debate. Every cycle the debate narratives are pushed for clicks and attention; almost all of it is manufactured nonsense and false.

Actual, professional, presidential debate teams do not leak information about their debate prep activity to the media. The only information released is from campaign players who want the other side to see, hear and waste time preparing for imaginary nonsense. All of the pre-debate stuff, banter, punditry and column inches are one big mind game of misinformation. Ignore all of it.

♦ Second, the DC system that created Mike Pence as the best option for Trump 2016 is the same system pushing Vance, Rubio and Burgum for 2024. [Example HERE] The intent with Pence 2016 is the same intent with Vance, Rubio and Burgum ’24. I’m cautiously optimistic President Trump is well aware of this.

Seriously, how many times have you heard me repeat the warning: NEVER TRUST A NEVER-TRUMPER. Yet, time and time again people get wooed back, deny their instincts, dismiss the intellectual reality and drop their guard. Every single time the Trump supporters get burned.

This is not complicated folks. The Never-Trumpers do not change position, have an awakening, trip over some “come to Jesus” moment, engage in self-reflection, or otherwise evolve to stop thinking that Donald Trump is the end of their world. Never-Trumpers espoused that opinion, because Never-Trumpers saw value in holding that opinion. It is simple and should be accepted.

Those who claimed Trump was/is horrible, terrible, egotistical, evil and all the other adjectives to describe their sentiments, do not suddenly have a change in perspective. What changes them are changes in the instructions they are given. They begin praising Trump because there is new value in stating that opinion. NEVER, EVER Trust a never-Trumper. The stakes are too high.

♦ Third, apparently the secret service is increasing the security detail around President Trump.

Kelly O’Donnell: “Secret Service is ready to add new protectee detail for Trump running mate. USSS is also increasing size of Trump detail beyond level for formers. Official said, “The Secret Service detail has been bulked up by additional special agents and support teams to ensure the highest level of security for not only the event sites but the travel in between events.” (source)

Generally speaking, the current DC system operators, that are referred to as the ‘Biden administration’, have no motivation to protect Donald Trump other than their sense of personal responsibility to the nation President Trump represents.

Given the effort that Tucker Carlson has put into mainstreaming thoughts around the ‘killing of Trump‘, I am cautious to view any Secret Service effort through the prism of professional altruism.

I pray for the safety of President Trump and his family daily, because I am very clear-eyed about the nature of the enemy he faces.


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KEYWORDS: deepstate; fakenews; nevertrump; presidenttrump; sundunce; vicepresident
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To: jacknhoo

I bet the SS bulking up is a few spies from the Biden campaign.


21 posted on 06/23/2024 7:46:42 AM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: 9YearLurker

Spoken just like a leftie.. no evidence, just wild accusations.


22 posted on 06/23/2024 7:47:47 AM PDT by Bobbyvotes (I will be voting for Trump/whoever he picks VP in November. If he loses in 2024, country is toast.)
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To: billorites

Great meme.


23 posted on 06/23/2024 7:48:02 AM PDT by Mr. N. Wolfe
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Should read, no Free Republic consensus on natural born citizenship. There are many Freepers who passionately disagree with each other.

And as a practical matter ,there was no controlling legal authority to keep Barack Obama and Kamala Harris from being elected to their offices.


24 posted on 06/23/2024 7:48:27 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Donald Trump Jr., Erc Trump, Barron Trump. Just say no to Jivanka.


25 posted on 06/23/2024 7:50:34 AM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: jacknhoo

Certainly some of trump’s SS detail are actually CIA. As for the VP choice, the government stooge establishment deep state is desperate to get their VP spy in place so the next trap can be set up.


26 posted on 06/23/2024 7:50:53 AM PDT by subterfuge (I'm a pure-blood!)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
He's vetted, and the intel community knows of him, a classic appeasement to that wing of government. It would be similar to Reagan picking Bush.
27 posted on 06/23/2024 7:52:02 AM PDT by Theoria
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Yes, there is consensus based on what the highest powers that be in land decided. Obama was nominated twice, and won twice. Either of his fathers (biological and adaptive) were US citizens and his mother was underage at his birth. If Obama was established as NBC, the definition is now clear. Produce a Hawaii or other birth certificate, and you are NBC. Precedent is powerful.


28 posted on 06/23/2024 7:52:52 AM PDT by Bobbyvotes (I will be voting for Trump/whoever he picks VP in November. If he loses in 2024, country is toast.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

If they ever declare Obama and Kamala wasn’t eligible, they’ll need a time machine to make things right. Same thing for the stolen 2020 election, you cn’t undo what Biden did unless you go back in time.


29 posted on 06/23/2024 7:53:38 AM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: Dilbert San Diego

True, Trump is a force. The total Alpha male. I don’t know of anyone quite like him.

Thig is, he truly does like the people and it shows. That is a power he has that others lack.


30 posted on 06/23/2024 7:55:59 AM PDT by dforest ( )
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To: Blue Highway
FReepers here have little evidence for their accusations against Vivek.

As far as natural born citizen (NBC), read on...

NBC is a legal issue. Vivek Ramaswamy was born on August 8, 1985 in Cincinnati, Ohio to parents who were in the U.S. legally but not U.S. citizens. The U.S. Supreme Court (SC) has ruled that someone who is born on U.S. soil is an NBC if at the time of his birth, his parents were in the U.S. legally but not U.S. citizens. Therefore, according to the mandatory legal authority of sound constitutionally-based SC ruling and precedent, Vivek is an NBC.

Detailed argument

Since around 1900, (SC) rulings have become less and less valid because SC has gradually moved away from basing their decisions on the Constitution as written and originally understood and intended. But their ruling on NBC appear to be based on sound application of the Constitution.

In Perkins v. Elg, 99 F. 2d 408, Court of Appeals, Dist. of Columbia Circuit 1938, the Court of Appeals noted as part of the basis for their decision that...

United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 18 S. Ct. 456, 42 L. Ed. 890, 1898 [found that] [W]hen the Constitution was adopted the people of the United States were the citizens of the several States for whom and for whose posterity the government was established. Each of them was a citizen of the United States at the adoption of the Constitution, and all free persons thereafter born within one of the several States became by birth citizens of the State and of the United States.

It appears the Supreme Court in Elg (1939) agrees with Ark (1898).

(Both Marie Elizabeth Elg and Wong Kim Ark were born on U.S. soil to parents who were here legally but not U.S. citizens.)

Again, the Constitution is properly applied as written and ORIGINALLY UNDERSTOOD and intended. What matters is what the ratifiers of the Constitution considered an NBC was. The Supreme Court decisions based on the good-faith and sound finding of original understanding of NBC in the Constitution is, therefore, legal precedent concerning NBC. Thus, Vivek should be considered an NBC.

Some argue that the term "NBC" is not specifically used in Ark or Elg, but these cases revolve around citizenship based on birth on U.S. soil, which is exactly what NBC is. An NBC is a citizen automatically because he was born on U.S. soil. He is “naturally” and automatically a citizen needing no further processing to become a U.S. citizen. He becomes a citizen under “natural” (birth) circumstances, exactly as Elg, Ark, and now Vivek.

31 posted on 06/23/2024 7:57:48 AM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: Jim W N

If you can’t figure out that controlled opps go out there voicing what we want to hear—and look deeper, I really can’t help you.


32 posted on 06/23/2024 7:59:04 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: jacknhoo

Deep State has a two sided deal to present money and we won’t rat you our for your unjust actions so far their score is nil.


33 posted on 06/23/2024 8:00:04 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Blue Highway

Yep, imagine the legal situation if courts rule on natural born citizenship, and declared someone such as Vivek is not natural born.

Then to be consistent, they would have to call into question citizenship status of Obama and Kamala.


34 posted on 06/23/2024 8:00:09 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Bobbyvotes

I’m tired of posting the evidence. If you don’t know this guy’s dodgy history, look into it. He’s a creep and a fraud.


35 posted on 06/23/2024 8:00:10 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Jim W N

I like the idea of Vivek as VP, but although the vice presidency is prestigious, it is basically a minor legislative position. He needs to be given a position with more responsibility and clout such as Secretary of the Treasury, director of the Office of Management and Budget or chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers.


36 posted on 06/23/2024 8:00:59 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Jim W N

I bet you were all hyped up for the “Young Gun” Paul Ryan when he was served up on a silver platter to us as well. Probably loved that “true conservative” Mike Pence schtick too.


37 posted on 06/23/2024 8:01:59 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: jacknhoo

NO social liberals for VP, please!


38 posted on 06/23/2024 8:04:01 AM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands
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To: Blue Highway

Vivek-Manchurian republican.
Burgum-the least controversial but it may not address 2028.

The pick doesn’t need to be flaming MAGA, just anti-deep state and experienced-you know won a couple elections.

Points to Rand.


39 posted on 06/23/2024 8:05:39 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: jacknhoo
The bad news is....Kamala will remain in line for the Presidency if Biden wins. Heaven help us.

It's Trump's choice not ours...and he knows a hell of a lot more than you or I do.

Personally, I hope it's Pompeo. But Freepers go nuts because he was appointed to the CIA and was there a year and a half.

Look at the rest if his record....pleeeeez. Stop cutting yourself short.

Probably the best Secretary of State in the last 200 years.

40 posted on 06/23/2024 8:05:45 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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