Posted on 06/23/2024 7:20:33 AM PDT by jacknhoo
I bet the SS bulking up is a few spies from the Biden campaign.
Spoken just like a leftie.. no evidence, just wild accusations.
Great meme.
Should read, no Free Republic consensus on natural born citizenship. There are many Freepers who passionately disagree with each other.
And as a practical matter ,there was no controlling legal authority to keep Barack Obama and Kamala Harris from being elected to their offices.
Donald Trump Jr., Erc Trump, Barron Trump. Just say no to Jivanka.
Certainly some of trump’s SS detail are actually CIA. As for the VP choice, the government stooge establishment deep state is desperate to get their VP spy in place so the next trap can be set up.
Yes, there is consensus based on what the highest powers that be in land decided. Obama was nominated twice, and won twice. Either of his fathers (biological and adaptive) were US citizens and his mother was underage at his birth. If Obama was established as NBC, the definition is now clear. Produce a Hawaii or other birth certificate, and you are NBC. Precedent is powerful.
If they ever declare Obama and Kamala wasn’t eligible, they’ll need a time machine to make things right. Same thing for the stolen 2020 election, you cn’t undo what Biden did unless you go back in time.
True, Trump is a force. The total Alpha male. I don’t know of anyone quite like him.
Thig is, he truly does like the people and it shows. That is a power he has that others lack.
As far as natural born citizen (NBC), read on...
NBC is a legal issue. Vivek Ramaswamy was born on August 8, 1985 in Cincinnati, Ohio to parents who were in the U.S. legally but not U.S. citizens. The U.S. Supreme Court (SC) has ruled that someone who is born on U.S. soil is an NBC if at the time of his birth, his parents were in the U.S. legally but not U.S. citizens. Therefore, according to the mandatory legal authority of sound constitutionally-based SC ruling and precedent, Vivek is an NBC.
Detailed argument
Since around 1900, (SC) rulings have become less and less valid because SC has gradually moved away from basing their decisions on the Constitution as written and originally understood and intended. But their ruling on NBC appear to be based on sound application of the Constitution.
In Perkins v. Elg, 99 F. 2d 408, Court of Appeals, Dist. of Columbia Circuit 1938, the Court of Appeals noted as part of the basis for their decision that...
United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 18 S. Ct. 456, 42 L. Ed. 890, 1898 [found that] [W]hen the Constitution was adopted the people of the United States were the citizens of the several States for whom and for whose posterity the government was established. Each of them was a citizen of the United States at the adoption of the Constitution, and all free persons thereafter born within one of the several States became by birth citizens of the State and of the United States.
It appears the Supreme Court in Elg (1939) agrees with Ark (1898).
(Both Marie Elizabeth Elg and Wong Kim Ark were born on U.S. soil to parents who were here legally but not U.S. citizens.)
Again, the Constitution is properly applied as written and ORIGINALLY UNDERSTOOD and intended. What matters is what the ratifiers of the Constitution considered an NBC was. The Supreme Court decisions based on the good-faith and sound finding of original understanding of NBC in the Constitution is, therefore, legal precedent concerning NBC. Thus, Vivek should be considered an NBC.
Some argue that the term "NBC" is not specifically used in Ark or Elg, but these cases revolve around citizenship based on birth on U.S. soil, which is exactly what NBC is. An NBC is a citizen automatically because he was born on U.S. soil. He is “naturally” and automatically a citizen needing no further processing to become a U.S. citizen. He becomes a citizen under “natural” (birth) circumstances, exactly as Elg, Ark, and now Vivek.
If you can’t figure out that controlled opps go out there voicing what we want to hear—and look deeper, I really can’t help you.
Deep State has a two sided deal to present money and we won’t rat you our for your unjust actions so far their score is nil.
Yep, imagine the legal situation if courts rule on natural born citizenship, and declared someone such as Vivek is not natural born.
Then to be consistent, they would have to call into question citizenship status of Obama and Kamala.
I’m tired of posting the evidence. If you don’t know this guy’s dodgy history, look into it. He’s a creep and a fraud.
I like the idea of Vivek as VP, but although the vice presidency is prestigious, it is basically a minor legislative position. He needs to be given a position with more responsibility and clout such as Secretary of the Treasury, director of the Office of Management and Budget or chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers.
I bet you were all hyped up for the “Young Gun” Paul Ryan when he was served up on a silver platter to us as well. Probably loved that “true conservative” Mike Pence schtick too.
NO social liberals for VP, please!
Vivek-Manchurian republican.
Burgum-the least controversial but it may not address 2028.
The pick doesn’t need to be flaming MAGA, just anti-deep state and experienced-you know won a couple elections.
Points to Rand.
It's Trump's choice not ours...and he knows a hell of a lot more than you or I do.
Personally, I hope it's Pompeo. But Freepers go nuts because he was appointed to the CIA and was there a year and a half.
Look at the rest if his record....pleeeeez. Stop cutting yourself short.
Probably the best Secretary of State in the last 200 years.
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